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Restoring a FS509 Cateye

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My name is unpronounceable so I go by a symbol that makes no sense either. I like long walks on the beach with old trusted golden retrievers. I don t drink, I dont smoke I ride motorcycles and thats about it

Now for the fun stuff. Been looking for FS509 stuff those HardToCombyum stuffs and found this place so looking to make new buds and get help

I am hung up on the Swingarm bolt assembly as the original is pretty tore up. Tighting it all up seizes up the double gear

I need to see a good photo or get a complete assembly so I need some assistance on finding parts

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Welcome to the forum.....

from what I remember about the jackshaft assembly it has a double bearing setup with a bushing between the bearings so the side load doesnt hinder the rolling action
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I have Cateye rear arms here, like CAM2 said, it has a bearing at both ends and center spacer I believe, and dual sprocket on the right side. I will have to look at mine, been boxed up 2 yrs.

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I have Cateye rear arms here, like CAM2 said, it has a bearing at both ends and center spacer I believe, and dual sprocket on the right side. I will have to look at mine, been boxed up 2 yrs.
Awesome, if you can could you give me a PIC of the assembly please, I have a feeling I will have to engineer a new piece.
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Is this post 3
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Post 4 is this enough now to at minimum ask more questions on the cateye?
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I would search on eBay, FS509 Cateye swing arm parts, or swing arm double gear, bearings, and bolt, see what shows up. I saw a double barrel gear a few months ago online. Try to search for mine today. Sounds like you have no bearing spacer between the two gear bearings. Same with your rims, there is a spacer that keep the bearing center races from being pulled to tight by the long bolt nuts. Measure the distance between the bearing races in the barrel gear and take a wheel axle spacer and grind it down to size. I think you can still find a swing arm bolt if you search hard enough.

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Awesome, if you can could you give me a PIC of the assembly please, I have a feeling I will have to engineer a new piece.
49cc Pocket Bike (8mm chain) Dual Gear sprocket w/ Bearing pair , Motorparts4less.com

Its not hard to make a spacer.....You slap the bearings in the gear ,,,measure the space between them and make a spacer the exact size and width needed...

http://elescooterparts.com/parts/gas...gs12parts.html

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There you go, parts, parts, parts. Contact them and ask about a bearing spacer for the dual barrel gear. I use .060" thick SS washers for spacing, 7/16" for 8mm axles. My rear arms are buried somewhere in my PB storage area, not sure where. You are going to have lean to work on these bikes, cause they are 80% work and 20% ride.

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HardToComeByUms are the ones I need. Nothing can be found for the swingarm. I will more than likely just make a strain chain run. Will need to shift the motor over but its all I can do for now, not worth the time and effort to machine a new part

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They have all kinds of chain tensioners, and chain guides, You can run one top or bottom and a chain guide, most parts I got direct from China for under $10 shipped, except the $17 billet alum one I found, its really for a big motorcycle. There are also rollers w/ 2 bearing inside, for 10mm and 12mm axles, $5 ea.
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HardToComeByUms are the ones I need. Nothing can be found for the swingarm. I will more than likely just make a strain chain run. Will need to shift the motor over but its all I can do for now, not worth the time and effort to machine a new part
First off let me get this clear.....These are chinese crapboxes....If any manuals exist they arent even able to be read as the english translation leaves alot out not to mention cateyes were built by CHINESE KIDS so tell me how much kids read and follow instructions for 35 cents a day....?????????

As far as your comment about machining a spacer?????????/...Come-on dude dont be so dramatic...........Spacers can be utilized from roller bearing centers to plain old washers grinded down/opened-up...........

Do you need somebody to hold your hand n guide you through each n every step of the process,,manufacture blueprints and give ideas that doesnt have the word machine/manufacture in them?UL laboratories can help out alot.

To get your bike back to running condition you must do what you have to do in order to get it to run........Thats part of the hobby.....I think making a bearing spacer out of spacer material found at any local hardware store in various diameters would be faster and alot easier than your process...The spacer tube can be easily cut with a hand hacksaw quite easily in a minute or less.........even 1/2" copper pipe will work.

These arent precision Japanese built bikes and even these days the Japs are slacking off alot aswell after the Fushima disaster thats messing up the entire world....

Besides FYI:.... the rear swingarm isnt supposed to be fully tightened....It cant pivot when tightened.....you must maintain a balance of snugness that keeps it together and still allow it to function.......

Also......to RESTORE something is to return it back to its original form and function,,,,bypassing the jackshaft setup isnt Restoring it...Its MODIFYING it..

Enough said.................Good Luck to the dude with the unpronounceable name..

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You funny little self righteous pin ****, I came here looking for a part, a part I know is pretty much obsolete. So your the forum tough guy and chief insulter? na your the class moron.
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First off let me get this clear.....These are chinese crapboxes....If any manuals exist they arent even able to be read as the english translation leaves alot out not to mention cateyes were built by CHINESE KIDS so tell me how much kids read and follow instructions for 35 cents a day....?????????

As far as your comment about machining a spacer?????????/...Come-on dude dont be so dramatic...........Spacers can be utilized from roller bearing centers to plain old washers grinded down/opened-up...........

Do you need somebody to hold your hand n guide you through each n every step of the process,,manufacture blueprints and give ideas that doesnt have the word machine/manufacture in them?UL laboratories can help out alot.

To get your bike back to running condition you must do what you have to do in order to get it to run........Thats part of the hobby.....I think making a bearing spacer out of spacer material found at any local hardware store in various diameters would be faster and alot easier than your process...The spacer tube can be easily cut with a hand hacksaw quite easily in a minute or less.........even 1/2" copper pipe will work.

These arent precision Japanese built bikes and even these days the Japs are slacking off alot aswell after the Fushima disaster thats messing up the entire world....

Besides FYI:.... the rear swingarm isnt supposed to be fully tightened....It cant pivot when tightened.....you must maintain a balance of snugness that keeps it together and still allow it to function.......

Also......to RESTORE something is to return it back to its original form and function,,,,bypassing the jackshaft setup isnt Restoring it...Its MODIFYING it..

Enough said.................Good Luck to the dude with the unpronounceable name..

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You funny little self righteous pin ****, I came here looking for a part, a part I know is pretty much obsolete. So your the forum tough guy and chief insulter? na your the worlds greatest guy.
Thats funny because you come off as an arrogant impatient spoiled illiterate twit ,,,kinda like the idiot you chose for an avatar...

You were given the info you seek aswell as websites where to get the parts...Who's the moron....?...

Look in the mirror pal after going back n re-reading this thread because,,,Its You who be Thy Moron..

You chose to be illiterate and spew classic illiteracy so you got put into perspective in the way I only know how to truley deal with real MORONS which makes you the planets biggest moron aswell as giant deuce of 2017..

You know zero about me from a lack of research before you call me a moron and yet I know so much about you which is,,,,, you arent adept enough to fix a kids toy built by a child and arent literate enough to follow directions without babytime picture cards and mollycoddling..........

Wow you should be a member of Mensa..................






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To funny, way to funny, in the words of curly
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They have all kinds of chain tensioners, and chain guides, You can run one top or bottom and a chain guide, most parts I got direct from China for under $10 shipped, except the $17 billet alum one I found, its really for a big motorcycle. There are also rollers w/ 2 bearing inside, for 10mm and 12mm axles, $5 ea.
Thanks EPR, been contemplating that as well. I am debating if I should spin up my own replacement as the bolt is pretty tore up in the first place, I am looking at a few options. The before and so far shots
Ops sorry showing off my bigger **** to asshat2
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