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Help to identify bike model

Hello everyone
First time posting on the forum so I hope Iíve put it in the right place
So, I have bought this bike and was just wondering if anyone knows which model it is?
The guy I bought it from says itís a polini? but someone else says itís a blata with a polini engine?
Any more information would be greatly appreciated
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There are bikes like you described aswell as chinese knockoffs....

Post up pics of what you got...I use photobucket......

This is a Polini 910 with a Polini 4.2hp engine...............



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I think you bought a bike I seen her a few months ago. If I remember right, its a Real Blata frame and wheels with a China clone 39cc water cooled Polini engine. New Euro engines are $1200 to $2000 plus, China motors $250 to $300.

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I have not seen that bike before. You have some interesting version of a c1 or blata b1 rep. with a polini rep engine. Good rep engine.

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Nice idea to use the clear pvc tubing
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Get a good pic from the side of the bike.

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You might have a Geovanni Cag sent to Canada. Is it air or water cooled?? Need more photos, like Kray said. Looks a lot like a C1 carb and rubber intake but its Not a C1 Blata clone frame. It this your avatar bike??

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You might have a Geovanni Cag sent to Canada. Is it air or water cooled?? Need more photos, like Kray said. Looks a lot like a C1 carb and rubber intake but its Not a C1 Blata clone frame. It this your avatar bike??
Yea it's his avatar. It looks like the frame was styled after a c1 but it's not traditional. It's like a steal version of the aluminum c2. It's funky.

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I think it is Giovanni made bike. It has a water tank for a water cooled bike on the top triple clamp??? The forks are similar to a C1, but the tubes don't look 28mm. But it looks like the Canadian Giovanni's Cag with the C1 type rear arms, need to see more photos before I can tell much more, that carb and muffler are used on many bikes, so there no help at all.

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I think it could be a. blata oragami B1
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There are bikes like you described aswell as chinese knockoffs....

Post up pics of what you got...I use photobucket......

This is a Polini 910 with a Polini 4.2hp engine...............



Hello. Nice idea to use clear pvc plastic. I think its a blata oragami b1. Im tough to post pictures on here
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SO you have a blata b1 origami replica of some kind. I've only seen that frame with a cag engine not a c1 engine. Does it run?

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Probably a hybrid made bike by melding a blata frontend on a 49cc aircooled Giovanni modded with a watercooled engine


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It is some kind of China made C1 never seen a frame like that before. If it was a B1 Blata it would be cast into the alum parts, cyld, triple clamps, exh. muffler etc.

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Hello, yeah itís looking like it is a Blata origami b1, the person I bought it from said it was an older version polini. which I now know itís an older b1. how do you know if itís a rep b1 it does have a b stamped on the engine whatever that means? excuse my ignorance but what is a cag? it does run it wanted to start when I pulled it a few times but I decided to just start stripping it down for cleaning. And it needs it felt sorry for it the state it was in when I bought it
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Taker close pictures of the engine. Both sides of the cylinder, the pull start, the handle bars. I doubt it is authentic but it'd be cool to be wrong.

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As far as I remember my history about pocketbikes the very early versions of the Polinis came out with a steel frame and the later versions aluminum whereas Blatas were built predominantly Steel frames and swingarms except for the B1 Ultimate that came with aluminum swingarm and seat frame...the mainframe is 100% steel.....

Ive never seen a blata with an all aluminum frame especially a B1/B2 or C1/C2.......

Heres an excerpt gleaned from the Blata website.......

Every carefully crafted part on the Origami B1 attests to the quality and performance that the Blata brand is known for. The larger three piece frame has a cast steel-composite core and high tensile steel tubing front and rear. The front fork has also been reinforced with cast steel-composite clamps. Allowing a better riding position, this bigger frame makes all the difference during longer rides

BASIC TECHNICAL DATA
ENGINE:
Water-cooled two-stroke single cylinder engine
DISPLACEMENT:
39,8 cc
POWER:
10,5 kW at 12.300 rpm
TORQUE:
8,1 Nm at 12.000 rpm
CARBURETOR:
PHVA 17,5 DellīOrto
EXHAUST:
KIT B1 MODEL 2002
IGNITION:
Contact-less
STARTING:
Pull start
CLUTCH:
Centrifugal automatic
FRAME:
High Tensile steel tubing (welded)

BRAKES:
front
disc brake - disc diameter 162 mm ( 6,3" )
rear
disc brake - disc diameter 119 mm ( 4,7" )
WHEELS:
front
light alloy 2,1" x 6.5"
rear
light alloy 2,3" x 6.5"
TIRES:
front
90/65 - 6,5"
rear
110/50 - 6.5" or 90/65 - 6.5"
FUEL:
Petrol 92 or higher Octane + 2-stroke synthetic oil (50:1)
FUEL TANK CAPACITY:
1 liter (0,26 US gal.)
WEIGHT:
25 kg ( 55 lb.) ( including stand 25,6 kg - 56,3 lb. )
WEIGHT INCL. PACKING:
30 kg ( 66 lb.)
MAXIMUM LOAD:
110 kg (242 lb.)
DIMENSIONS:
length
1100 mm ( 41" )
width
560 mm ( 22" )
height
550 mm (21,6" )
PACKING BOX DIMENSIONS:
length
110,0 cm (43,3" )
width
40,0 cm ( 15,7" )
height
58,0 cm ( 22,8" )

My 2005 Polini 910 Carena bike is built with both frame types but yet to see the same with Blata B1/B2 , C1/C2.................

My 1999 Blata 2.5 had a similar steel frame as the later built Elite series machines..........

If the Giovanni company made their own version of the MT-A2 its quite possible they made a MT-A4 watercooled version aswell...


In any event I know the techs at Blata and Polini very well so I sent the side shot pic over to them to see what they say...........

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I just found the email sent back from the Blata guys in Florida.....They were fast..

Heres what he sent me................

A Blata is only a Blata when there is "Blata" on it

The unauthorized copying of Blata products by manufacturers from China, may by purchase a minibike give the impression that this is a Blata product.
To ensure that when by purchasing a minibike, quad or scooter, this is a original Blata product, we give you some tips which an original product by Blata is identified.

a. Chassis number stamped into the steering head (front part of frame)
b. Blata engine logos
c. Blata logo in the rims
d. Very good workmanship of frame (welding) and lining
e. Blata instruction booklet included

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I just found the email sent back from the Blata guys in Florida.....They were fast..

Heres what he sent me................

A Blata is only a Blata when there is "Blata" on it

The unauthorized copying of Blata products by manufacturers from China, may by purchase a minibike give the impression that this is a Blata product.
To ensure that when by purchasing a minibike, quad or scooter, this is a original Blata product, we give you some tips which an original product by Blata is identified.

a. Chassis number stamped into the steering head (front part of frame)
b. Blata engine logos
c. Blata logo in the rims
d. Very good workmanship of frame (welding) and lining
e. Blata instruction booklet included
Hey guy can give me Blata's contact info Thanks.
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