Hello all. Does anyone have any experience or information on MetraKit 50/70?
I am looking to move my son away from Midbike racing soon. He is riding the wheels off this thing and I would like to see his skills develop. He will be turning 9 this summer and it's time to start gearing. I've seen them between $3,600 and $5,500. Is there beter pricing somewhere?
We are trying to stay away from the Supermoto stuff. The MetraKit looks like top quality equipment...is it? I dont want anyone else's headache so I am concerned about used YSR/NSR bikes plus they are getting a bit dated and new bikes are hard to find.
I feel like I am running with sissors on this particular forum.
So my 2cents.
YSR - (my appologies to the YSR fans) yes it is dated, however it can be had for a decent prices and will hold it's value in the long run since they can be titled for the street. Many venues who race minis will have these bikes as the majority. Huge plus if you want to race in a big class.
NSR - they can be had new. One caveat they will have to race with modded YSRs and perhaps bigger 17" wheel bikes such as the ApriliaRS and Derbi GPRs since they are H20 cooled. Great bikes for sure because they are built by Honda. Find a dealer who still has these on their showroom floor and I'm sure they are ready to blow them out the door way below thier initial 3500 msrp
Metrakits - extremely exotic and expensive. Not many venues here in the States race them since the cost is out of reach for most. Derbi engines can be hopped up is a huge plus and again these will have to race with the bigger H20 bikes. For your son, it may be a intimidating so you'll have to think about that as well. Oh I would love a Metrakit. Like you said hard to find used.
Why are YSR and NSR's in a seperate class from Metrakit. They have the same displacements. Are they separating by Value/Cost? If so that's the same as putting factory riders in a seperate class because they are funded. I'm confussed.
Is it that few show up to races or are they prohibited from competition with YSR/NSR's?
Why are YSR and NSR's in a seperate class from Metrakit. They have the same displacements. Are they separating by Value/Cost? If so that's the same as putting factory riders in a seperate class because they are funded. I'm confussed.
Is it that few show up to races or are they prohibited from competition with YSR/NSR's?
Thanks
They are separated due to performance #s. In stock form, the YSR<NSR<Metrakit.
YSRs are aircooled. NSRs and Metrakits air watercooled. The metrakit's Derbi engines come out already tweaked for more HP and the bike itself is slightly lighter and come with better suspension than the NSRs and YSRs.
It's either, pay more $$$ upfront for the Metrakit or buy a YSR/NSR and pay $$$ later. You can make the YSR perform as well as an NSR, but doubt you could match what a Metrakit could afford.
If everyone raced a Metrakit, I would buy one in a heartbeat. What's unfortunate about owning one is only a few raced them at SMRRC and GSMRRA. And those guys were just visiting the track since they primarily race in So. Cal. The problem with the metrakit is they are put in a class that where they may be out gunned by RS125/80 bikes or ubber modded 17" racers that can run race slicks.
See my point. Middle road - for a great out of the box race bike, find an NSR50. You will be gridded with YSR60 (bored out 50s) and stock Aprilia and Derbis.
Or, if your son is tall enough, buy a 17" racer (again Aprilia RS50/DerbiGPR). It's a platform you can mod once he picks up speed.
Last edited by eddiemcrider : 05-17-2005 at 02:24 PM.
the Metrakit bikes are in my backyard. the sole importer of the Metrakit bike is a guy by the name of "Ozzie" Osiel Saez. I've spoken to Ozzie numerous times. nice fellow. always willing to help out. He's the only one that can import them.
I've seen these bikes run. they are wicked fast and just as expensive. they are terrible to "tweak" for the track. at a local meet one night I went to go see these bikes run. this one rider said he had a YSR, NSR50 and a recently purchased (brand new) out of the box metrakit bike. he wished he had brought with him that night his NSR50. that metrakit would not run right. something with the carb or jetting that was running like garbage and this guy's bike was brand new.
the Metrakits' are new to the US soil. give them a year or two and see if they can hold out. If more riders buy them, then the price will go down but for right now.........they are truly unaffordable for the headaches they offer.
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Originally Posted by eddiemcrider
They are separated due to performance #s. In stock form, the YSR<NSR<Metrakit.
YSRs are aircooled. NSRs and Metrakits air watercooled. The metrakit's Derbi engines come out already tweaked for more HP and the bike itself is slightly lighter and come with better suspension than the NSRs and YSRs.
It's either, pay more $$$ upfront for the Metrakit or buy a YSR/NSR and pay $$$ later. You can make the YSR perform as well as an NSR, but doubt you could match what a Metrakit could afford.
If everyone raced a Metrakit, I would buy one in a heartbeat. What's unfortunate about owning one is only a few raced them at SMRRC and GSMRRA. And those guys were just visiting the track since they primarily race in So. Cal. The problem with the metrakit is they are put in a class that where they may be out gunned by RS125/80 bikes or ubber modded 17" racers that can run race slicks.
See my point. Middle road - for a great out of the box race bike, find an NSR50. You will be gridded with YSR60 (bored out 50s) and stock Aprilia and Derbis.
Or, if your son is tall enough, buy a 17" racer (again Aprilia RS50/DerbiGPR). It's a platform you can mod once he picks up speed.
My brother and me have metrakit 70's and we have no problems. The only thing we ever have to do to the bikes are gearing everything else is fine. Every where I have gone that has a class for 50's and 80's the metrakits arent seperated from the other bikes. You can usually find a nice used one for $3000, but for a new 70cc one its $4500. Over in cali I think theres only like 6 metrakits taht I kno of, but over here there are atleast 15 at each race, we race with wera.
My brother and me have metrakit 70's and we have no problems. The only thing we ever have to do to the bikes are gearing everything else is fine. Every where I have gone that has a class for 50's and 80's the metrakits arent seperated from the other bikes. You can usually find a nice used one for $3000, but for a new 70cc one its $4500. Over in cali I think theres only like 6 metrakits taht I kno of, but over here there are atleast 15 at each race, we race with wera.
What do you like most about riding a MetraKit as opposed to a YSR or NSR?
I currently race an NSR/CR80 with fully modded suspension and aftermarket pipe, very, very fast! I also have a TZM/YZ85, can you say over 30HP out of the box (i'll get it Dyno'ed when i get back). This bike has all YEC parts, and I guarantee it will run with any mini thrown at it. I have two other bikes as well, a YSR80 with every mod except for ignition, and an NSR50 with aftermarket suspension.
Here the deal on prices:
NSR/CR80 $600
NSR50 (free) added steel braided lines and wave rotors $200
YSR80 $600 with mods $1,200
TZM/YZ85 $2,500 engine $1,500 the rest was for the YEC parts shocks/forks/clip-ons. This bike was built from the ground up
My sons are learning to race as well, there's no way I would put them on the YZ or CR powered bikes, maybe in a year. When these bikes are on the pipe there's no substitute. I train my oldest son on the YSR and NSR50, he prefers the NSR.
Amout of time the NSR50 has been down NEVER!!! That's even after two back to back endurance races (1 4hr, and 1 3hr) with no maintenance and I've owned it for two years. Amount of time the YSR has been down a couple of days in 3 yrs.
As far as $'s and cents are concerned, go for a YSR or NSR any day. If money's no option then go for the Metrakit. I am, when I get back to the states (within a year or two).
Just my 2 cents from a father with boys that are doing the same as your son.
I'm in the USAF, I rotate in July and I'm going to Hawaii. I'm not trying to be there long especially if the tracks closing down. If it stays open who knows, I could be there for a while.
As Eddie said, I too would love to have a Metrakit, but it seems most of us here in Cali don't want to spend that kind of money (4-6K) to race/track for fun.....call me/us cheap (lol) We even find it hard to spend 3K for the revised race only NSR's :cry :laughing
There are only two classes within our Assoc that allow Metrakits......
Unlimited YSR:
YSR (Superbike), NSR's (Stock Race) and Metrakit (basic/stock) = Max wheel dia is 12"
Formula Extreme:
72cc Metrakit (12"/16") & 80/85cc bikes
I think I've changed my mind in regards to the NSR. I finally got to see them raced (2) at our local track (SMRRC). I was quite impressed seeing them battling agains't the Derbi's.......in their stock race form against Modded Derbi's (24mm & pipe), including lots of money spent on suspension upgrades (revalved forks, RS125 wheels w/slicks and a $blang$ rear shock). I can only imagine a modded NSR (carb, pipe & CDI) against the modded Derbi's......unfortunately, that won't be allowed
Pharohx! I recommend to have your son start on a YSR. You can find a race ready between 1K - 1500. Find a "Stock" racer. There are 3 classes he could race.....Beginner, Novice & Stock YSR. If he outclasses the other riders, then I say buy a Metrakit and race the faster classes (Unlimited YSR and/or Formula Extreme).
Thanks Darren for that clarification. I live 10mins from SMRRC. I'll have to get back out there and talk with Matt. Between that and what youve said I think I'm starting to see the local layout. I would love to work him into USMiniGp. They dont have local support for kids?
The pic of kids racing on thier site look really appealing! www(***)minigp50cc(***)com.
Some look younger then my son. Great stuff!
Fastest kid I know. He's just turned 11 and has no fear. He also won the junior motoX championship three years running. This is his first full year of roadracing. I'll be sponsoring him in a couple events when I get settled.
Fastest kid I know. He's just turned 11 and has no fear. He also won the junior motoX championship three years running. This is his first full year of roadracing. I'll be sponsoring him in a couple events when I get settled.
Where does he race Japan/States? What's his name? I like reading about the up and coming young guns.
yes I would like to kno about this kid also cuz im trying to gather info to write an article of all the up and coming kids in road racing for motorcyclist magazine.
She is Matt daughter. Matt is the director of motorcycles out at Stockton Motorplex. She was also featured in Road Racer X last month on page 60 titled "Female Flyer". Matt is in PBP forums as SMRRC. I'm sure you've seen his posts before.
Fastest kid I know. He's just turned 11 and has no fear. He also won the junior motoX championship three years running. This is his first full year of roadracing. I'll be sponsoring him in a couple events when I get settled.
If he is in the US he should try to get with this group so he can get some exposure.
MetraKit 50/70, Help? 
