The NSR has nothing on the Metrakit and here's why
I will probably need another screen to write the long explanantion but I will condense it a bit.
the Metrakit/ozbike is $3900 because it's all aluminum and chromoly (spelling?)
metrakit/ozbike was designed by Tony Arbizu (Spanish frame designer responsible for at least 5 world GP frames you've seen on TV) this makes our bike a true GP bike and not a street bike with fiberglass body
Metrakit/ozbike weighs 120lbs, 45lbs less than NSR and 65lbs less than YSR. 100lbs less than GPR and RS50
Metrakit/ozbike makes 11hp out of the box stock and capable of 25HP with a $1200 Pro Race MK kit. NSR can't touch that power to weight and certainly can't come close for even $2000.00 Only go fast goodies for the NSR or TZM for that matter come Japan and being a Daytona, Kitaco and Takegawa dealer/importer can assure you 20HP will cost over $2000.00
Metrakit/ozbikes are the only bikes allowed in the US MINIGP Spec series which means you stand to make $6000.00 at the end of the year and place young Americans in the eye of many internatioanl teams as we see at the World Mini GP in Spain (only open to our bikes)
cost of maitenance is posted on our outline/overview at www.minigp50cc.com you can see that is cheaper to run a Metralkit than a Honda and once again the $3500.00 price tag gets you no more reliability than does the DERBI engine we employ.
We emply a DERBI engine beacause Cycle Imports INC. was the DERBI importer distributor in hte USA and later the East Coast. We have given up distribution on acount of the current US$/Euro ratio.
Lastly as 6 year grey amrket importer of NSR's, TZM, TZR's and anything else you can think of, I can tell you nothing anywhere can compare to our bike. Please note we run and ran CMRRA and Portland in the Formula 80(93cc limit) RS and TZ125 frames on our 72cc Pro race bike and more often than not handed some pretty good beatings. Our 50cc pro was forced to run in the 65cc mostly KX classes and did the same there. The 80GP classes are the same engine and displacement on YSR Chassis and hardly a race if you catch my drift. In a fair fight cc/cc there is once again nothing state side or outside that can touch our bike.
Having said that I think it is clear that our bike looks good and fast by chance/conisidence. It really is faster than it looks and all function over looks.
I know there are Hoinda fans that have to have Hondas but please don't do it on the grounds that it is a Honda therefore as fast as N. Haydens.
Would the Metrakit bike with the 25 HP upgrade function well as a track "learning tool", and weekend open trackday bike? Will it run over 100 MPH top speed?
Thinking that a bike so small and light would definitely help teach you the principles of keeping corner and entrance speed high, as it simply wouldn't have the steam to make it up on exits compared to "real sportbikes".
What is the total price of a "maximum package" Metrakit? For comparison's sake vs. the Derbi GP with the 125 cc "race only" kit.
I agree 100% but, you would need to allow the shifters a little bit larger engine (up to 80cc)
by combining groups that can use the same tracks, everyone benafits, more racers equals lower track fee's for everyone, and by having more racers you bring more potential capital to a track owners, opening up more tracks
Stockton has these classes too (Beginner 80 GP and advanced 80 GP) along with a Thunder Class, i.e., Honda XR100 & Yami TT125
Check out the SMRRC web page to see all the class structures......can hardly wait for the 2005 Season
Would the Metrakit bike with the 25 HP upgrade function well as a track "learning tool", and weekend open trackday bike? Will it run over 100 MPH top speed?
Thinking that a bike so small and light would definitely help teach you the principles of keeping corner and entrance speed high, as it simply wouldn't have the steam to make it up on exits compared to "real sportbikes".
What is the total price of a "maximum package" Metrakit? For comparison's sake vs. the Derbi GP with the 125 cc "race only" kit.
No, buy a Honda RS125 grandprix bike. New they are 10K, but buy it used. They do not hold their value well. You can find a 5 year old Honda RS125 for about 1/3 the price of new. They have about 4o HP and weigh as much as a YSR50.
Good advice. I am looking for a trackday tool. I have taken a few roadrace schools on R6's, and have decided that I no longer am interested in riding my CBR600 as a streetbike any more, and would like something smaller, lighter, and cheaper on spares to use as a trackday tool/toy. Ther is a roadrace school here in canada that sells off their used RS125's after a few years. I will get in touch with them. Thx for the advice.
Yeah but your are not comparing "apples to apples". the Metrakit bikes are 50 and 80cc's not the 125cc's that the RS125 is. And the Metrakit bikes stock out of the box will do 70mph and with some mods, will reach speeds up to 100mph. the metrakit bikes only weigh around 130 pounds or so i believe.
You can't say that a $10,000 RS125 compares to a $4500 Metrakit 80cc bike.
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No, buy a Honda RS125 grandprix bike. New they are 10K, but buy it used. They do not hold their value well. You can find a 5 year old Honda RS125 for about 1/3 the price of new. They have about 4o HP and weigh as much as a YSR50.
Ozzie with Cycle Imports (OZ Bike) has done an amazing job of setting up a program in the US with the Metrakit. Mini GP Canada is setting up a similar program in Canada for the Metrakit. The price may be more then a used 125cc bike, but you will catch up in costs very quickly.
We ran the 80 cc bike (17" wheel) in every race we could attend in Western Canada from July 1 till snow and ended up on the podium at each event. The bike was crashed 7 times at speeds from 50-100 mph, it had 50+ people ride the bike on demos and over 15 hours of use. This is where you find the big difference... NO money was spent on the bike other then fuel and a few bolts that you can buy at a hardware store or bike shop. Try that with a 125 conversion...
Take a look at the videos at the following link. This is a TZ with an amazing rider who has been racing his bike for years. He went up against our Metrakit, the rider for the Metrakit was a volunteer with no prior experience on the bike. The Metrakit still had the stock jets and had not been set up. The bike still had a lot more power waiting to be found with a correct setup.
I've been sitting by watching this thread grow, and like anything else when it comes to bikes. I'm pretty sure it all boils down to the rider. I say this because I'm in Okinawa and I see it all the time when I head to the mountains (the locals call it touring). Big bikes (GSXR1's, R1's and the like) and me on my VFR400. I can definitely assure you I'm not the one in the back (and I'm not riding hard by any means). I also see it on the track, Bikes that are 110cc with competent riders that can't keep up with the 50cc NSR's with great riders.
I haven't seen a Metrakit up close and personal, but I have done alot of research. from what I can tell they're outstanding machines. Being in the land of the Rising Sun, I've also seen some very, very serious NSR's (afterall this is where they come from). I can't dispute the power to weight ratio, but when it comes to the aftermarket I could only wish to own half of these parts.
I intend to purchase a Metrakit upon my return to the states, but until then I'm after a dry clutch, usd forks, and I'll still be under $3K.
I'm not trying to defend one or the other, just adding a little input from the other side of the pond. All info helps, plus I don't care what you ride, as long as you have fun and be safe doing it.
I stand corrected..............that Metrakit bike "blew" the wahoozits off that other bike!!!..............wow, which is what I was trying to get at but I thought for sure a $10K race bike with a 125cc engine would clearly beat hands down a 70cc bike.........man was I wrong.
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Originally Posted by MiniGPCanada
Ozzie with Cycle Imports (OZ Bike) has done an amazing job of setting up a program in the US with the Metrakit. Mini GP Canada is setting up a similar program in Canada for the Metrakit. The price may be more then a used 125cc bike, but you will catch up in costs very quickly.
We ran the 80 cc bike (17" wheel) in every race we could attend in Western Canada from July 1 till snow and ended up on the podium at each event. The bike was crashed 7 times at speeds from 50-100 mph, it had 50+ people ride the bike on demos and over 15 hours of use. This is where you find the big difference... NO money was spent on the bike other then fuel and a few bolts that you can buy at a hardware store or bike shop. Try that with a 125 conversion...
Take a look at the videos at the following link. This is a TZ with an amazing rider who has been racing his bike for years. He went up against our Metrakit, the rider for the Metrakit was a volunteer with no prior experience on the bike. The Metrakit still had the stock jets and had not been set up. The bike still had a lot more power waiting to be found with a correct setup.
CALL MINI mOTO-wE HAVE A SURPRISE CMING IN THE bms LINE-A 4 STROKE-ALSO-SOMEONE SEND ME PICKS OF THE METRA KIT-WE WANT TO CARRY THIS MACHINE
WHO DO WE CALL TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE METRA KIT
970-203-0100 ASK FOR BRUCE
Sorry but i would rather a pb...
i guess its good if u are really looking into big bike racing but for me its all pb
just my view on these new bikes
ryan
Ozzie has his shop 12 miles from where I live in south Florida. he's got a whole assortment of toys in his warehouse.
I have not had the pleasure of testing a Metrakit bike but from what I've heard, they are wicked fast for the track out of the box.
it all depends on what you want to do with your toy. Race, leisure, combo of both, or just plain restore a mini moto.......all depends on the goal of the project but the Metrakits are wicked cool!
they have lots of photos on their website and I've collected a few as well of the Metrakits. here's my email: neoroarke@hotmail.com
just let me know if you want the JPG's.
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CALL MINI mOTO-wE HAVE A SURPRISE CMING IN THE bms LINE-A 4 STROKE-ALSO-SOMEONE SEND ME PICKS OF THE METRA KIT-WE WANT TO CARRY THIS MACHINE
WHO DO WE CALL TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE METRA KIT
970-203-0100 ASK FOR BRUCE
Yeah, I was too into all the pb stuff.......but I "f'kd" my back recently (I'm 41 years old, that's why) so I needed to get a bit more normal sized bike. I'm still very fascinated with the small pb's but now I'm into the YSR flavors and the NSR flavors.
You just can't be the price and the YSR's are holding their values real well these days. they are becoming rarer and rarer in the U.S.
good luck.
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Sorry but i would rather a pb...
i guess its good if u are really looking into big bike racing but for me its all pb
just my view on these new bikes
ryan
Check out this photo as well, the rider in this case is big and was riding our 12" bike. I am 6' and 230, but he is heavier then me and had no issues on the bike.
I stand corrected..............that Metrakit bike "blew" the wahoozits off that other bike!!!..............wow, which is what I was trying to get at but I thought for sure a $10K race bike with a 125cc engine would clearly beat hands down a 70cc bike.........man was I wrong.
I should clarrify that the bike show in the movie is a TZ with a tuned 80cc engine. The Metratkit is 76cc and makes 25 HP at the rear wheels.
my son rides metrakit 80 cc and it is head and shoulders above any of the other bikes mentioned here it cost but it is built for racing and is a rocket if you are playing get a whatever if you are serious get a metrakit
along with a Thunder Class, i.e., Honda XR100 & Yami TT125
