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Old 01-20-2005   #1
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This board has been rather inactive today, I always have my computer on at the shop and usually I can read a new complaint about the club or something unfair every hour but not much action today.
Since it is so cold here right now and the shop is not very busy I had some time to ponder a few things and if you care to read my thoughts here they are.
Why is it that everyone got along till the motard class got beyond the few regular guys? Most of the griping has come from guys who have shown up once or twice or don't even have a bike, furthermore none of these guys have ever done one thing for this club or even picked up a flag to help the guys who run their races and keep score for them, nice real nice. Reality check is needed here, it would be great if some of the complainers stepped up and helped instead of just blah, blah, blah. Now I hear rumors about not enough track time and a breakaway motard series. I don't find that's cool at all. It was hard for us, the ones that started this and everyone knows who they are, to get this winter league going. We did not want to put our bikes away so we thought that we would take the chance and put in some extra hard work to provide people with something they love to do at a time of the year that you normally could not enjoy it. Yes, I realize that K2K is limited for space in the pits, a small track that gets crowded, and expensive to rent but what other local choice did we have? I want this club to continue, it is obvious that in the summertime people have other commitments and what not so they will not be able to attend every race but we need to keep the pocket bikes and motards together to get the number of the riders up to where even if half don't show we can still cover the cost of a track rental (BTW, it is actually more than half of the people that say they will show that don't although there are a few regulars that you can usually count on) I have a feeling that once we go to awesome tracks like Fremont, Jackson, and East Lansing many more will not make the drive even though it is less than 2 hours for most. For those who complain about track time, that situation will be amended once the outdoor season starts, it is much easier to get lots of time in on everything when you have a wide open track where more riders can safely be on it at the same time and you have a track from 10am-5pm not just 9-1 because we know no one is really ready to go at 8. Just my thoughts, like them or not chime in with comments. One stupid thing I want to say ahead of time, Blackjer you don't have a bike and until you attend an event quit messing with people with your banter and creating problems for the club or there won't be one by the time you get your bike, or just keep it intelligent because we have seen you be intelligent at times but a complete jerk at others. (before you say it, yes I called you a jerk because in some of your posts you are to me and have been to others)

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Sorry To Get In On This But Whats The Next Time You Guys Are Racing I Want To Come Up From Cleveland And Check It Out!
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Well bart, you are wrong again. I have attended and event and ill be at the practice this sunday with ryan.

I love your way of thinking. However, two wrongs do not make a right. And you, a person who acts like they are in charge of this club should be the last person to resort to name calling. Especially since you believe that someone has acted like a jerk on the internet.

To me, it seems that you are the one that is starting problems by posting this thread. These boards have been dead for almost 3 days....till now.

To me, it seems that you are blaming the motard guys. Well, you have been right in the middle of 98% of the drama on this board. So step off your soapbox.

There are other people on this board that dont have a bike and they dont race with the club and they start **** too. Funny how you single me out? Its ok, i like the attention.

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blackjer, it's you plain and simple. I can't recall one constructive thing you've done here. Yet you play the game of reflecting blame onto everyone else. You're truly an artist with Internet arguments. Congrats.
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blackjer, it's you plain and simple. I can't recall one constructive thing you've done here. Yet you play the game of reflecting blame onto everyone else. You're truly an artist with Internet arguments. Congrats.
And i dont see one constructive thing youve done here either. Unless you consider following me around and directing your posts to me constructive?

As ive said before, im as guilty as anyone. All the drama makes things fun. Unless your idea of fun has been the past 3 days of the judge talking about candy bars and his hair?
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Just when you thought things were back to normal again. ****! It was kind of nice having some quiet here for a coupel of days. But i guess some people just cant stay away. I guess the some fuel was tossed on the fire once again. It seems that its just getting old to people. Except the few i wont say names that flare things up again. oh well my 2 cents.
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Just when you thought things were back to normal again. ****! It was kind of nice having some quiet here for a coupel of days. But i guess some people just cant stay away. I guess the some fuel was tossed on the fire once again. It seems that its just getting old to people. Except the few i wont say names that flare things up again. oh well my 2 cents.
Make sure and include your name on that list alright.

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Make sure and include your name on that list alright.

Oh ya and what list might that be? Here we go again.
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Make sure and include your name on that list alright.

That was a very constructive post....
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Based on what I've seen, I can't blame anybody for wanting to be part of, or start, a more grown-up leauge.


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Just when you thought things were back to normal again. ****! It was kind of nice having some quiet here for a coupel of days. But i guess some people just cant stay away. I guess the some fuel was tossed on the fire once again. It seems that its just getting old to people. Except the few i wont say names that flare things up again. oh well my 2 cents.
i think bart has good points and im not taking side what so ever , i have had my share of words to b;ackjer myself right or wrong i have dissed him on threads verbuly, but at anyrate in my opinion blackjer it srill and i feel strongly as long as he is in this club will go the extra mile to create conflict, i hope im wrong and in all honesty i cant wait to meet him sunday, with or without a bike he will not be a favorite among all of us but i guess deal with it, one thing i must say i had a long conversation with troy this after noon on the phone and we discussed several good points , bad points and other stuff reguarding this club/league and there are too many babies biiching about every little thing, now please munderstan im just the father of a 10 yr old that runs juniors and stock cag class , so my 2 cents might not mean sh^t to anyone but i feel is respected by a few of you i was involved with these guys before this club started and i will be here till it dies.i think everyone of us is very opinionated and sometime things are better left unsaid, again i stress track smack and sh7t talking are two different things and if i need to school you on that then let me know, because people are getting ****ed at one another and i must admit some reasons are legit, but face it theas fourms didnt have as much drama a month ago, its going to get old fast what i mean by this is sooner or later there wont be a pocketbike club here, you may say bulls7it but its true, unless you want to run it, ride safe, race competively, have fun, and save the drama for your mama...................im out
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Based on what I've seen, I can't blame anybody for wanting to be part of, or start, a more grown-up leauge.


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I agree with brandon,

Myself, ive never seen more crybabies in one place. Everybody gets so worked up over the **** internet....its just the internet. Everyone must put on their super sensitive skin when they come to this forum.

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Oh ya and what list might that be? Here we go again.
your no saint, you have fuled it too
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your no saint, you have fuled it too
So were gonna go around and point fingers on the internet now. It was just so much easier and calmer when all was talked about was racing and who's gonna beat who!
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So were gonna go around and point fingers on the internet now. It was just so much easier and calmer when all was talked about was racing and who's gonna beat who!
im not pointing a finger young one im stating a fact if you dont like it you know what to do.................
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So were gonna go around and point fingers on the internet now. It was just so much easier and calmer when all was talked about was racing and who's gonna beat who!
oh then talk about racing and who is going to beat who , because i sure know that it is fun when we do that,........all of us
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I can tell where this is going. Rather then finger pointing, i suggest....
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im not pointing a finger young one im stating a fact if you dont like it you know what to do.................
Im sensing some hostitlity there buddy?
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Im sensing some hostitlity there buddy?
maybe a little , but dont take it personal, i like you but i will tell you how it is, no holding back here, not anymore
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