I was there on sunday for a while and noticed a few things that concern me. First was a guy who was allowed to race in shorts and tennis shoes. does that seem cool to you guys? Second was the XR100....I thought that was set up for fiddy style bikes with up to like 110cc.....but 10" tire rule. Last thing....coolant in a race bike that could not stop from overheating? I thought water was what you were supposed to run in them?
I was there on sunday for a while and noticed a few things that concern me. First was a guy who was allowed to race in shorts and tennis shoes. does that seem cool to you guys? Second was the XR100....I thought that was set up for fiddy style bikes with up to like 110cc.....but 10" tire rule. Last thing....coolant in a race bike that could not stop from overheating? I thought water was what you were supposed to run in them?
good points man... the dude in the capri is a skin graft waiting to happen... and if I slip and fall because of anti freeze on the track it aint gonna be pretty....
There HAS to be some rules ENFORCED at these events.... I know that this has grown at an alarming rate and it's hard to run the whole show (Troy and the crew are doing a good job) but we need to tighten things up a bit.
JB and I were talking about this yesterday... I think that each class should have a lead tech type person or persons to help with each class... set up some tech for each bike... that type of thing...
I had a talk with the kid on the overheating bike and told him he could no longer run and to only use water and additives because no bike will be allowed on the track with coolant. The 100 bike, I have no idea what happenned there but I guess Troy said that he polled you guys if he could run and everyone was OK with it. Remember that this winter season is somewhat experimental so that we can figure out a class structure for the summer, it is good to see right away what gives bikes an unfair advantage and what most people want to ride and do to their bikes. It seems to me like there are enough motards right now to have all the bikes run at the same time but we will have to do it like "LeMans" where they all run together but stock 50 bikes will be scored on their own over the 88 and 107 bikes, on the outdoor tracks the 50s will not even be close to the big bore bikes where there are long straightaways.
they shoudl all go to the "that guy" training camp.....
seriously...there needs to be some sort of gear enforced. jeans are not even enough as far as I am concerned...I have blown apart a few pairs from being stupid....
I had a talk with the kid on the overheating bike and told him he could no longer run and to only use water and additives because no bike will be allowed on the track with coolant. The 100 bike, I have no idea what happenned there but I guess Troy said that he polled you guys if he could run and everyone was OK with it. Remember that this winter season is somewhat experimental so that we can figure out a class structure for the summer, it is good to see right away what gives bikes an unfair advantage and what most people want to ride and do to their bikes. It seems to me like there are enough motards right now to have all the bikes run at the same time but we will have to do it like "LeMans" where they all run together but stock 50 bikes will be scored on their own over the 88 and 107 bikes, on the outdoor tracks the 50s will not even be close to the big bore bikes where there are long straightaways.
Yeah, I like the idea of potentially having multiple classes run at the same time (and scored separately). The only problem with that is determining what the max number of bikes on the track should be.
Something should be done with the antifreeze and even potentially oil leaks. The last thing we want to do is have K2K mad at us for trashing their track.
Yeah, I like the idea of potentially having multiple classes run at the same time (and scored separately). The only problem with that is determining what the max number of bikes on the track should be.
Something should be done with the antifreeze and even potentially oil leaks. The last thing we want to do is have K2K mad at us for trashing their track.
i agree with eneryone in this thread , time is a factor on race day also , what i mean is we have lots of hours to run but the more people thast come out the more time we waste or adding class/races, also non members are not consistant on showing up sometimes that makes it hard for the guys who are racing for the points championship, bigger is not always better we have all said that in the beginning, plus i think we over crowd this paticular track sometimes , no complaints here just opinions
First I will say all opinions are taken into consideration and not frowned upon. Not at first anyways! LOL
1st-The guy in the shorts was told no more! He did have on knee pads for protection. Without knee pads his day would of been over on the spot.
2nd- No antifreeze will be allowed in the future. It was the first time he or any beginners came out with a Liquid Cooled bike(besides the guy we kicked out for being too loud).
3- The XR 100 ridding in the motard class was a little too much. I had a vote and all of the motard class said let him run for fun! His tires are too much to get around. I think he will have to wait until summer to run again. I told him I would get some feed back from the other members to see what they thought of him riding out there. So with this in mind it seems no body wants that bike to come back to the Kart!
4- If there are 20 riders they will be broken down into 2 heats with the top five from each heat raacing in a main event. The points are all the same after 10th so that is what the main will sort out. (The top ten points finishes.)
5- Some of the bikes already have 12" rims on them and to tell him no more would be rude and unprofessional(besides he is not in the front running). With that in mine I have grandfathered him into this class and to say no one else can run a 12" tire would be wrong. So with in mind the rule will be 12" rim max.
Thanks for the input and I hope this is O.K. with everyone. If not let me know!
Troy
If we are adding our opnions or putting our two sense in i have something. I saw a disturbing image sunday. A rider went down or was taken down but iwas in the race and it was a racing incident clipping a back tire in front of me. The racer then picked up his yard sale and threw it off the track. After all that he took and threw his bike off the loading dock. Kids and parents dnt need to see that and few did. This represents bad sportsmanship for the club and the track. It should not happen again. If he were on my team measures would be taken. Just my two sense and i am not trying to throw fuel on a fire here!
If we are adding our opnions or putting our two sense in i have something. I saw a disturbing image sunday. A rider went down or was taken down but iwas in the race and it was a racing incident clipping a back tire in front of me. The racer then picked up his yard sale and threw it off the track. After all that he took and threw his bike off the loading dock. Kids and parents dnt need to see that and few did. This represents bad sportsmanship for the club and the track. It should not happen again. If he were on my team measures would be taken. Just my two sense and i am not trying to throw fuel on a fire here!
That would be me . If you knew my week I had, you would have done the same thing (like trying to get my truck loaded the night before and hitting a pothole and cracking my rim and getting home at midnight ). It's not an excuse, but having a week like that adds up. Yes Keith hit me, he apologized and I said don't worry it's racing.
But yes, we have had a few of us talking and we need to get a little more structure in the class. I never thought that this class would grow this fast, it was onlt 4 bikes a month and a half ago. To me the biggest thing is safety. Having 20 tards out there is not good. All it takes is one big pile up and someone getting hurt and K2K will tell us not to come back. Some people know Aaron at K2K, and when me and Jay were trying to get guys to do this (before we knew about this club) us three agreed and a leathers or you don't ride policy, kind of a CYA for Aaron? I want to keep doing this, so I think there needs to be some way (heats, cc,s, etc) to break up the big group a little. I know someone will me mad if they don' make the final and get less track time, but that's better than a huge pile up. Once again, just my 2 cents
That would be me . If you knew my week I had, you would have done the same thing (like trying to get my truck loaded the night before and hitting a pothole and cracking my rim and getting home at midnight ). It's not an excuse, but having a week like that adds up. Yes Keith hit me, he apologized and I said don't worry it's racing.
But yes, we have had a few of us talking and we need to get a little more structure in the class. I never thought that this class would grow this fast, it was onlt 4 bikes a month and a half ago. To me the biggest thing is safety. Having 20 tards out there is not good. All it takes is one big pile up and someone getting hurt and K2K will tell us not to come back. Some people know Aaron at K2K, and when me and Jay were trying to get guys to do this (before we knew about this club) us three agreed and a leathers or you don't ride policy, kind of a CYA for Aaron? I want to keep doing this, so I think there needs to be some way (heats, cc,s, etc) to break up the big group a little. I know someone will me mad if they don' make the final and get less track time, but that's better than a huge pile up. Once again, just my 2 cents
Real motard racers dont wear leathers.
Running more heats means less time for everyone else, cags, midbikes,etc. I say stick it out, theres only 2 races left.
That would be me . If you knew my week I had, you would have done the same thing (like trying to get my truck loaded the night before and hitting a pothole and cracking my rim and getting home at midnight ). It's not an excuse, but having a week like that adds up. Yes Keith hit me, he apologized and I said don't worry it's racing.
But yes, we have had a few of us talking and we need to get a little more structure in the class. I never thought that this class would grow this fast, it was onlt 4 bikes a month and a half ago. To me the biggest thing is safety. Having 20 tards out there is not good. All it takes is one big pile up and someone getting hurt and K2K will tell us not to come back. Some people know Aaron at K2K, and when me and Jay were trying to get guys to do this (before we knew about this club) us three agreed and a leathers or you don't ride policy, kind of a CYA for Aaron? I want to keep doing this, so I think there needs to be some way (heats, cc,s, etc) to break up the big group a little. I know someone will me mad if they don' make the final and get less track time, but that's better than a huge pile up. Once again, just my 2 cents
you have some good points and you had a bad week but thats no excuse to throw your stuff in front of everyone but you cant change that now. And for the leathers i dont think thats good cause not evryone can afford 500 for a leather suit. I have a joe rocket bike coat with tail bone pad and elbow pads in it and trust me ive tested it and it works just as good. The class is getting to big for that track. And as for splitting it up i dont think that needs to be done yet because there are only a couple of 50's in the class. I am gettin ready to put in a order for an Icon racing fiddy so theres one more rider. It is gettin big you had a bad day and just wait till the outdoor season if you race cause your a top runner in the class and i am gonna need some competition!
you have some good points and you had a bad week but thats no excuse to throw your stuff in front of everyone but you cant change that now. And for the leathers i dont think thats good cause not evryone can afford 500 for a leather suit. I have a joe rocket bike coat with tail bone pad and elbow pads in it and trust me ive tested it and it works just as good. The class is getting to big for that track. And as for splitting it up i dont think that needs to be done yet because there are only a couple of 50's in the class. I am gettin ready to put in a order for an Icon racing fiddy so theres one more rider. It is gettin big you had a bad day and just wait till the outdoor season if you race cause your a top runner in the class and i am gonna need some competition!
I know, it's not an excuse, that was just all my frustations coming out (and a bruised knee and hip from getting ran over by a 100....but not his fault). The leather thing was just something me and Aaron talked about 2 years ago now. We are going to have about 25 bikes the next race. The guys from Magic have some friends coming down from Flint, we have 3 more road racers that were there watching to decide if they want to (and they do now). We just need draw a line on whats too many bikes? When we had 12 2 races ago, I though anymore than 15 was going to be really pushing it? We have 17 on Sunday!! 2 didn't race, 2-3 coming from Flint, and 3-4 road racers next time....that's one full class!!!
I agree. If rules on clothing are made it should be a motorcycle worthy jacket like the one ryan wears. With gloves, and maybe some riding boots. Icon makes some great boots for mini riders.
Mandating full leathers would be costly. Do you want to see everyone on a cag in leathers? I suppose you guys dont mind cuz you already have leather suits.
. If you knew my week I had, you would have done the same thing (like trying to get my truck loaded the night before and hitting a pothole and cracking my rim and getting home at midnight
). It's not an excuse, but having a week like that adds up. Yes Keith hit me, he apologized and I said don't worry it's racing. 
