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Old 02-08-2007   #1
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I just recently started a new project for myself. i recently got a hold of a cats eye pocket bike frame with the most of the parts i needed. i am taking this cats eye pocket bike and converting it to an electric pocket bike. the problems i am having is that when i got a hold of the rear tire assembly i cant tell if i received the wrong one way bearing, sprocket, bearing, and rear axel. besides that i just really really need to see some pictures of the items and then the axle, bearing, sprocket, and one way sprocket. with them assembled in a couple of steps and without the frame in the way. so if anyone can show me the picture and such that would be awesome. and yes i have spent a lot of time looking in the gallery and could not find what i needed.

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Re: need help with a conversion project

If it is a right side drive then sprocket it may be the only one you can get. I dont know of too many other kinds of free coasters if this is what you r talking about?

but that bike looks perfect for an EVPB, great space all over it to use!...trust me the down tube is the best thing to have on an evpb, i my self went to great legths to put one in a razorPB200 just a couple dayz ago.....still have to mig it though.......agen, great choice. that frame is ready for a bunch of goodies......dont go over boord on the parts like the motor and the controler though. all you need is a 36volt50-100 amp controlewr and a 800-1000w 36volt motor and some 12volt 12amp hour gell cells(three of course)....after you get that in the bike get a good gear ratio until the bike fells the best of both world, take off and speed...
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Yea the rear tire assembly setup is a right side sprocket for the standard gas version bike which I have. The guy I got it off of gave me one of those free coasting bearings and i wasnt sure how it attached it seemed just a little odd I can post pictures of them if need be. But yea I just ordered a 1000 watt motor and 3 12v 17AH batts for it. Unfortunenatly I only got lead acid batts to start with so I don't mess up anything exspensive. But I was trying to find a good 100 amp controler for it but I had not decided on which one to get. If you have any ideas of a good one let me know. But yea the picture is of the sprockets and free coasting bearing and the rear rim. So any help would be very nice.
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will the mount for the stock gear come off? if so the right side freecoster should just screw on reverse thread....

the set up you posted sounds great
go here for controlers, they have100amp36volt units too
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are those sprockets for an 8mm chain....... and will that freewheel screw on your rear tire???? i use the freewheel their great but the bolt on sprocket i think are better for the fact give it throttle and letting off and then back on is alot easier on the motor but the down fall is the motor will always turn when coasting so the brushes wore down quicker.... if you e-mail chris@tncscooters.com him or his tech team will have all your questions answered.... and tell you what you really need... so drop him a line tell him armando sent you and describe your problem/needs and they will take care of you......leave your phone # so he can call you if he need more info from you....
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Awesome guys thanks a lot for the help. hopefully with this first setup once i work out the bugs and do some up grades i hope to join the 30+ club since it looks like ill be in that range. but i think i will have to redo the sprockets and chains. if you guys got any sugestions for improvements or any neat ideas let me know. also you guys got any clue the avg run time with a 1000 watt motor with a 100 amp controller and 3 12v 17AH lead acid bats might run with a 44 tooth sprocket?
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range is tough cause everyone ride different.... with the batteries you got i'd say min. is and hour..... wish you would have posted you thread before you order could have sent you to a site where you could have gotten 36 volt battery for 15.00 rather then the 50/60 bucks you just spent......would have been a clean look and saved space.... ask us before you order stuff and we may have a place that will save you lots of cash.....btw your setup is good.. you will be very close to 30mph..... even if your not, your bike will lauch like a bat out of hell.... should have great torqueon takeoff, even a wheel or two,weeeeeeee. i like torque lol.....any question just ask us even if it may seem simple we rather see you do it right rather then blow it up and have to spend more cash to replace a part.... good night.......

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Well the place I found my batts at were about 30-35 but I searched around and found some better quality ones although your right it would have been nice to get them cheaper. I also got my motor for a lot cheaper than it had been anywhere else. Yea i love torque also I just love the pull of launching. I will be posting pics as I progress and set up parts. If you got any cool sites to order things. I just got to wait for a little more cash and ill be able to get my controller. Then try and figure out how to wire it all up then find the best way to wire up all the lights too.
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hey do not take that cat eye a part make gas it will go faster :>
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I am not doing gas because one i just bought the frame and that minus the engine and all gas parts. because one i like less noise and i cant store anything in my door room with fuel. besides electric have a lot less up keep and a lot of torque. AND MUCH MORE FUN SETUP!!!!!!!
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hey vegetax you write or call chris @tncscooters with the questions you have???? when your finished with your bike your going to have fun being able to cruise without making all that noise.....never know may be a chick magnet lol ok i'm stretching the truth now lol..... beside just knowing that you build the power plant should be rewarding itself... i know every project i do with electric makes me feel that way and then seeing everyone trying it out in my neighborhood and seeing their reaction riding an electric ride is all worth it to me.......my electric tractor has over 100 people try it out since i made/converted it last summer......

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that electric tractor sounds cool i would love to see pics of it. but no i have not email chris yet because i have been busy and also trying to think of any questions i have. besides that is the place where i ordered all my stuff from.
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i'll do better here's a vid and there's a few more there

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Hey can anyone tell me for sure if the right side mounting point for the sprocket i posted is normal or reverse threaded. i haven't tried hard but either way seem to not budge. and any tips on how to take it off. because it seems to be removable by web sites i could find.
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it should be reverse

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it should be reverse
i second that......lol i cracked my first gear bolt off trying to take it off normal way...lol dont do that, just a pain in the butt and your woman in your life will tell you to stop cuss'n at inanimate objects...lol
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okay guys I am about to get ready to do my fabrication I am just waiting to order a new transfer sprocket and my speed controller. But once I get the transfer sprocket I can make the bracket and mount my motor and batteries. I was wondering if you guys had any ideas for what thickness metal to use for mounting the motor and what kind of style to do it in. I was thinking of doing having the mounting bracket bolt on with both the front and back to support it. I would also notch out the air holes needed. I also had some pics of some metals I was thinking of using but ill have to post them when I get back to my laptop. so any ideas or suggestions?
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as long as the steel is strong and not flimsy you will be ok..... 1/8" to 1/4" should be good.... i use and L bracket from home depot when i did my boys' bike . i got the mid size one (4 of them ) the holes lined up perfect and only cost 8 buck ... since it has the hole you can bolt it down and then weld it for added strength works great .. so if that motor ever blows all you need to do is swap it and never have to worry about lining the chain up again....
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hey guys i thought i would give an update. i finaly got the transfer gear i needed and got my funding. so i was going to order my speed controller. i was wondering if the one that was posted earlier would be a good one for what i am going for. if not got another one that is better? and where would i get it? also as a side note it turns out that when i finally got off the sprocket mount on the rear rim it was normal threaded. and i got the new one way bearing on. also ill be making my motor mount in the next week when ever i get time and ill post pics.
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Hey guys I need help again. It is definitely a W T F?? thing. I got all the major parts I needed and did some chopping work. Now all I need to do is wire my stuff but I am drawing a blank. I know I should use 8 gauge wires, and I have to do it in a series to the main set of batteries and that. But I am not sure how to incorporate the charger link, key ignition, and the fuse. Besides that I can’t read Chinese so if you guys could show me like a diagram or what on how to wire it up and any suggestions. Also later once I get it running ill try and get a film of it and post it. Also I will probably need help with some more wiring stuff later. I need to wire up the head, tail lights, the turn signals and horn. but I am going to try and do another separate 12 volt battery since the other stuff is only setup for 12 not 36. So I will need to wire all that and set up a charger and maybe get it to work on the key only. So PLEASE help. I will be very thankful. Plus I am sure you guys want to see this finally running.
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