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Old 06-27-2005   #21
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it may be im not debating that..watercooled on 4 strokes doesnt mean that much as far as power goes...its more for reliablity...so if anything this bike is going to be slow im letting everyone know that now...but may be a good step towards street legal bikes for the chinese...who knows may prove to be a competitive bike to put up against derbi and aprilias

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it may be im not debating that..watercooled on 4 strokes doesnt mean that much as far as power goes...its more for reliablity...so if anything this bike is going to be slow im letting everyone know that now...but may be a good step towards street legal bikes for the chinese...who knows may prove to be a competitive bike to put up against derbi and aprilias
Sounds like your talkin about a differant bike to me. My thread is talking about a watercooled 110cc pocket bike. Not a street legal motorcycle. Once the distributor gets some in I will post some pictures of it. Until then enjoy the wait.
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according to the seller specs the engine is a 50cc,
whats up with that

ebay # 7165424382

110cc 4 Stroke 4 Speed Super Pocket Bike
  • This bike is brand new in factory sealed package.
  • Engine Mod: HS139FMB-D
  • Engine Type: Single cylinder; 110cc; 4 stroke; air-cooled
  • Max output and rotating speed: KW /(r/min)4.2/8500
  • Max torque and rotating speed: N.m /(r/min): 3.0/6500
  • Cylinder bore: 39mm
  • Stroke: 41.4mm
  • Gearshift: four gears. Gear drive transmission by foot gear ratio
  • Ignition type: CDI
  • Displacement: 39ml
  • Compression Ratio: 9.0:1
  • Carburetor: Piston type PZ17A
  • Lubrication system: 15W/40-SE four stroke engine oil
  • Seat height: 600mm
  • Tire: front 90/65-10 rear 145/50-10
  • Oil capacity: 1.8L
  • L x W x H: 1500mm x 600mm x 800mm
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Old 06-27-2005   #24
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THis is a pic of a real Benelli street bike. I doubt if it will be exactly like it. These are Italian made and will out run a Aprillia or Derbi easily.
I don't think so. The bike in that pic is a Bennelli Tornado Tre. It is Italian made with a 998cc inline 3 cylinder engine, which is very raw with a lot of bugs. It is a beautiful bike, but it WILL NOT out run an Aprilia or even come close to it performance wise. The Aprilia will smoke it in every possible way, so would a Ducati. It might beat a Derbi though.

Sorry to get sidetracked.
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gelwalk thats a different ad then we are talking about...the one that was stated earlier in the post that is currently for sale by a company in arkansas can be registered...its the benelli look a like that u showed earlier...if you contact the ebay seller he already has some of them and with the specs he gave me makes it able to be registered...but dont take my word for it...look into it
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dam nice catch!!! I was getting soooooooo excited seeing it, thought it was a real new MID bike. 2 bad, its a looker.

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The bike in that pic is a Bennelli Tornado Tre. It is Italian made with a 998cc inline 3 cylinder engine, .
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can it be x8 i have seen x8 pics they look like same
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Old 06-28-2005   #28
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that bike is gorgeus or should i say Tiiiiight
I will have my first shipment of those in on thursday or friday. they will of course be the 70cc, thats the way china does things. they first ship the newest bikes with the 70cc motor and the next ones will be the 110s and the 125s. i will have lots of photos on my website of that one and will prolly beat the crap out of one to see the durability.


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Old 06-28-2005   #29
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so which ones are going to be water cooled?
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The one I am talking about is.
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I might buy one I am tempted to
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well its a and not a liquid cooled bike,x12 wheels looks kinda like x6 body a better built frame


Features: for 50cc

1) Engine: 50cc/ 110cc 4-strokes, single-cylinder, air cooled
2) Max load: 100kg/ 220lbs
3) Max speed: 60km/h/ 37mph
4) User age: >14
5) Brake: disc brake
6) Suspension: front and rear
7) Carton dimensions: 124 x 54 x 87cm

Features: for 110cc

1) User age: >16
2) Engine: 110cc/ 4-strokes, single-cylinder, air cooled
3) Max power: 6.0kw/8500r/min
4) Max troupe: 7.0N.m/6500r/min
5) Battery: 12V/7AH
6) Max load: 100kg
7) Drive model: chain
8) Max speed: 80km/h
9) Fuel tank cap: 1.5L
10) Ignition mode: CDI
11) Start: electric/kick start
12) Tire size: front:100/50-12 vacuum, rear: 130/50-10 vacuum
13) G.W./N.W.: 69/66KGS
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Old 07-02-2005   #33
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well its a and not a liquid cooled bike,x12 wheels looks kinda like x6 body a better built frame


Features: for 50cc

1) Engine: 50cc/ 110cc 4-strokes, single-cylinder, air cooled
2) Max load: 100kg/ 220lbs
3) Max speed: 60km/h/ 37mph
4) User age: >14
5) Brake: disc brake
6) Suspension: front and rear
7) Carton dimensions: 124 x 54 x 87cm

Features: for 110cc

1) User age: >16
2) Engine: 110cc/ 4-strokes, single-cylinder, air cooled
3) Max power: 6.0kw/8500r/min
4) Max troupe: 7.0N.m/6500r/min
5) Battery: 12V/7AH
6) Max load: 100kg
7) Drive model: chain
8) Max speed: 80km/h
9) Fuel tank cap: 1.5L
10) Ignition mode: CDI
11) Start: electric/kick start
12) Tire size: front:100/50-12 vacuum, rear: 130/50-10 vacuum
13) G.W./N.W.: 69/66KGS
Sweet Bike!!! How much and where?
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I don't think so. The bike in that pic is a Bennelli Tornado Tre. It is Italian made with a 998cc inline 3 cylinder engine, which is very raw with a lot of bugs. It is a beautiful bike, but it WILL NOT out run an Aprilia or even come close to it performance wise. The Aprilia will smoke it in every possible way, so would a Ducati. It might beat a Derbi though.

Sorry to get sidetracked.
i always liked buells better like a firebolt xb12r, mostly bcuz it has a harley engine in it and sounds bad ***, pretty fast too
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the bike was first in this thread makes my bike look like something from the junk yard
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Did you guys fail to catch the engine model 139 FMB is a 49cc and so is the bore and stroke specs that they claim to equal out to 110cc?
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according to the seller specs the engine is a 50cc,
whats up with that

ebay # 7165424382

110cc 4 Stroke 4 Speed Super Pocket Bike
  • This bike is brand new in factory sealed package.
  • Engine Mod: HS139FMB-D
  • Engine Type: Single cylinder; 110cc; 4 stroke; air-cooled
  • Max output and rotating speed: KW /(r/min)4.2/8500
  • Max torque and rotating speed: N.m /(r/min): 3.0/6500
  • Cylinder bore: 39mm
  • Stroke: 41.4mm
  • Gearshift: four gears. Gear drive transmission by foot gear ratio
  • Ignition type: CDI
  • Displacement: 39ml
  • Compression Ratio: 9.0:1
  • Carburetor: Piston type PZ17A
  • Lubrication system: 15W/40-SE four stroke engine oil
  • Seat height: 600mm
  • Tire: front 90/65-10 rear 145/50-10
  • Oil capacity: 1.8L
  • L x W x H: 1500mm x 600mm x 800mm
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Did you guys fail to catch the engine model 139 FMB is a 49cc and so is the bore and stroke specs that they claim to equal out to 110cc?
I JUST ORDERED A GS57 70CC FROM COOPS JUST WONDERING WHAT MOTOR MY BIKE IS REALY GOING TO HAVE IN IT. I DONT KNOW IF THE 70CC IS THE ONLY MOTOR OUT NOW. I HAVE SEEN THE 110 ADVERTISED BUT IS IT REALY WHAT YOU WILL GET. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF ANYONE HAS GOT ONE YET. THANKS RICH
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well its a and not a liquid cooled bike,x12 wheels looks kinda like x6 body a better built frame


Features: for 50cc

1) Engine: 50cc/ 110cc 4-strokes, single-cylinder, air cooled
2) Max load: 100kg/ 220lbs
3) Max speed: 60km/h/ 37mph
4) User age: >14
5) Brake: disc brake
6) Suspension: front and rear
7) Carton dimensions: 124 x 54 x 87cm

Features: for 110cc

1) User age: >16
2) Engine: 110cc/ 4-strokes, single-cylinder, air cooled
3) Max power: 6.0kw/8500r/min
4) Max troupe: 7.0N.m/6500r/min
5) Battery: 12V/7AH
6) Max load: 100kg
7) Drive model: chain
8) Max speed: 80km/h
9) Fuel tank cap: 1.5L
10) Ignition mode: CDI
11) Start: electric/kick start
12) Tire size: front:100/50-12 vacuum, rear: 130/50-10 vacuum
13) G.W./N.W.: 69/66KGS
Not a bad looking bike although the green looks better then the blue from some reason but still looks pretty good. I would definately wait until the 110cc or 125 version comes out before buying one.
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Please keep us up to date on this bike. I will also likely buy one if I see a pretty decent review.

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Tomorrow i will go downtown in LA and take picture of this bike.. My (friend) dealer said over the phone, " His are 70cc and at the end of this week he will have the 110cc. If its like my son's (9) dirt bike; a 110 cc it hauls. I keep it in 3 gear because it will wheel in 1 & 2 gear. It beats my YSR 50 (stock) off the line and mid range. Any particular request of a photo angle on the bike??? He said he is selling them for about $600.00. Is that a good price???
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