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Old 06-20-2005   #41
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I'll bug the boss and see what we can do...

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So, has anyone actually found out what the speed for this bike is for the 110cc? I plan on buying ojne to cruise to school and around town but I need some decent speed, not rediculous speed, but decent. Also, anymore pics of it with people on to show size? Besides the ones already posted. Thanks


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they screwed up and sent a 50cc version!
omfg how & why would they ever produce such a thing!
we ordered the 110cc version.... but I guess their English is very very BAD

if it was a 110cc I'm sure with a few bolt ons this would be a great bike to make it street legal and be quite happy with it.... it's not a high performance bike, but it's still nice and a lot safer for traffic to see you
i got my bikes in and here's the deal. most first off bikes come with the 49/70cc motors. thats the way china does it. the next round of bikes coming from china are going to be the 110's. i was able to get my hands on a select few of the 125cc version of this bike. going to be doing some testing of this one this weekend. the only thing that bugs me the most is the red wheels. we pulled a blue and silver one for the showroom floor and a yellow one. red wheels dont go with these colors to well. check for photos and updates later this week.

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those aren't the same bikes as shown in page 1 of this thread. your's are smaller than the acclaimed 125cc ones.

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i got my bikes in and here's the deal. most first off bikes come with the 49/70cc motors. thats the way china does it. the next round of bikes coming from china are going to be the 110's. i was able to get my hands on a select few of the 125cc version of this bike. going to be doing some testing of this one this weekend. the only thing that bugs me the most is the red wheels. we pulled a blue and silver one for the showroom floor and a yellow one. red wheels dont go with these colors to well. check for Photos and updates later this week.

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yeah, i dont like it. seems too big and heavy, you would have to put a 125 on it to make it go
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we just got 4 more in today...WOW!
they still screwed up and we got 70cc versions this time.

these ones are WAY different and MUCH better built

all the frames are powder coated with a dark metallic grey and the paint is also mettalic. there is NO SHIFTER LINKAGE... it has the shifter directly mounted to the tranny

any part of the bike that was steel has been powder coated... the new gauges are REAL it has a real speedo with cable running to the front wheel hub instead of an electric POS hooked to the engine... the tac is digital instead of a gauge..... about as inacurate as the gauge but goes up to 12k rpm

the handle grips are billett aluminum with a pattern and are really nice

the throttle assembly is metal instead of plastic

the disc brakes are hydraulic 2 piston and are nice and beefy compared to our original one that we ordered

it might be heavy but this is best quality I've seen come out of China so far

my hat is off to them

by the way..... I fell in love with one that came in and bought it for myself.... it's metallic black with metallic dark grey accents and has the dark metallic powder coated frame...... matches my Joe Rocket jacket and my helmet perfectly

to hell with the 110cc..... there's enough room in the frame for a 200cc vertical engine and that's the way I'm goin with it
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Has anyone actually ridden one yet.....the big question is how fast the 110 cc will move the bigger and heavier frame????



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im sure its a lot slower than the smaller ones
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Has anyone actually ridden one yet.....the big question is how fast the 110 cc will move the bigger and heavier frame????



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update:

it's a 90cc..... man are the Chinese ever getting confusing by changing things all the time
I had mine to 50mph totally stock already

so on the Speed Max version which is in my opinion hands down the best quality Chinese bike I've ever seen
the code on the case says it's a 50cc and the cylinder says it's a 48 which we've all learned by now that they're at least 70cc.... but these ones are 90cc

I put a K&N filter on it and adjusted the carb....
then I decided to try taking off the muffler to see how restrictive it was.... holy cr@p batman.... the muffler weighs about 15lbs and I hit 58mph without it. (keep in mind guys I'm 6"1 and 215lbs)

sounded like a ****ed harley on decel though

anyway..... they are great for corners.... you can put the bike down pretty far.... the L.E.D. tail light is *** but it can be modded pretty easily for a proper bulb

watch out for the trunk lid.... they're pretty loose and mine flew off once already.... needs to be re-painted now

the one that I bought is black and dark metallic grey...... awesome color scheme for that powder coated frame.


I'm not even going to wait.... I've got about 50 miles on it and I'm going to order the upgraded CDI and talk to the guys at PBU and see if they can build a nice exhaust for it

I wonder just how fast I can get this thing going on just bolt ons
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i'm confused: what cc was the bike you were testing


wow 58 mph??!! how was that measured??

thats pretty sweet man...i cant wit till i get some more info and a little more review, maybe this is worth investing instead of the x12

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guys as long as the bike got real gears,it should make over 50 mph with no problems,remember the ysr is a 50 cc and over 300 pounds ,it make 50 any day,gears my friends make all the difference,deamm they are the same company that make those cheap scooters that are al over the place hopefully soon they're gonna make a midi street legal,
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Got mine today, its a 50cc.



First thing i did was give the chain proper slack.

removed lower fairings.

Quick carb tune

Fresh gas


Tommorw ill be removing the lights and horn, hacksawing the uneeded haing bits that the "radiator" and lower faring mounted to. After that further carb tunning and adding a temp gague. Replace all fluids in the bike.

After that depending on how much time i have left ill see what else can be done to inch out some speed. Right now out of the box i was impressed with this 50cc compaired to my X1. Acelleration was awesome, if i did a proper shift the bike would almost scoot from under me if i didnt hold on. I was able to top it out at 45 indicated at 5krpm. I plan on trashing this engine/tranny after ive got as much knowlage out of what it can withstand.

After my next paycheck ill probly buy the 110cc from the bike shop here but keep the same gearing so that i can some painfully good acceleration. It goes fast enough now that the headshake on my ****** roads keep the will to go faster down.

Asfar as quality, for 690 after taxes im not complaining, than god for the comfy seat. My trunk lid flew off too, but i think ill make a fake pillion seat to cover the gap.


Its going to take some getting comfortable with before ill be dropping a knee, but after some quality controll on my behalf ill be even more impressed. If money isnt an issue id recommend one.

45mph stock, 210 6"4' rider. Wear your gear kids, this is the middle ground between real sport bikes.
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great review man......

thats a lot of info


where did you get yours....do they have a site.....(make sure you put spaces between . and com so the admin's dont delete it)

so the 49cc can do 45 (what did you measure teh speed with?)

i wonder what the 125cc can do

keep us posted

Oh yeah- Do you think you can get your knee down on turns...thats one thing I want in my bike


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dude, b23baller, all you do is ask people for websites that sell rx12, why dont you just get one and quit writing so many posts about them....i dont get you
this about the "big bike", not the x12

sorry dude

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I just finished working my my bike for today, i spent 5 hours outside riding/tuning and it felt like 1 hour.

I lubed the chain with white lithium, removed alot of excess metal mounting points that held the lower fairing, moved some electrical componets to safer postions above the hot engine. After that i started to remove lights and wires that i will never use. Turn signals, the horn, the wirings leading to both.

After all this work i was able to lighten the bike by roughly 1/2-3/4 of a pound. Im still only on my first tank of gass after about only 8 hours of riding, ill take it for more after i get out of college tommorw. Things i noticed that worry me are loud sqeaks and grinding noises randomly occouring on the bike. Out of paranoia i started making my changes stronger. All of the mounts for the headlight assembly and upper fairings with larger bolts and washers.

If and when you plan on adding new/better bolts to the fairing please remeber to put large washers, i recommend somthing 2-3 inches across with a hole in the middle just large enough for the bolt. This spreads the vibrations and stress across a large area to protect the cheap plastic.

The number one reason i recommend for removing the lower fairing is for ease of use and tuning. Trust me, the first time you take off that lower fairing youll never want to take it off again. Although its the highest quality chinese bike ive seen its still behind in quality compaired to other italian/american bikes. THe postion of the screws and other such stuff makes that lower fairing the most hellish experince ive had with that bike so far.

Be very active in caring for the transmission, yes it wont blow up but why risk it? I have no problem abusing it because ina few weeks when it does blow up im getting a 110cc upgrade that comes with a new transmission already attached so im giving myself the go ahead to **** this one up.

If there is one thing id stress is lubrication, the chain needs it just as much as any other part on the bike! That lube is usless unless you also adjust the tension so that the chain can move 1/2 and inch up and half an inch down.

There are specific parts in the electrical system that need to be grounded very badly, i found out the hard way as i was toying with them. It wasnt a death shock just a big surprise. In other words work with the bike off if you are going to toy with the electrics.

To clean the bike's fairings id recommend window cleaner and and paper towels.

Also i cant stress enough how helpful blue loctite is in the securing of the various bolts and nuts.

After all these modifications i did a final run to see if these asjustments really did anything for me. The result was pegging out the speedo at an indicated 50mph... there was no more room for it to move so i really cant tell you what the MAX idicated would be but its obvious ive reached the max of what the manufacture thought it would go on 50cc's.

A problem i had today was very odd, i was playing with the idle screw because my RPMs would drop too low after comming to a full stop and the bike would die. After adjusting it so that i idle at 2.5k i attempted to turn the bike off using the kill switch. After i turned and removed the key the bike kept running. After moving the idle screw back to its former postion it acted normaly. Needless to say im keeping it at 2.5k for performance sake but if you do this aswell the choke is going to become your kill switch. You can only use the choke as a kill switch if you dont have a lower fairing.

Ill update again tommorw after i get done riding. Ill need to check the bank but im aching to get a temp gauge on my bike so i can see how hard im really being on it.

Wear your gear douche bags.
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i'm confused: what cc was the bike you were testing


wow 58 mph??!! how was that measured??

thats pretty sweet man...i cant wit till i get some more info and a little more review, maybe this is worth investing instead of the x12

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the bike that is mine and as tested is a 90cc
with an adjusted carb (leaned out)
K&N filter
muffler removed (incredibly restrictive)

had my GF pace beside me in my car to measure the speed and it matches up with the speedo
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the bike that is mine and as tested is a 90cc
with an adjusted carb (leaned out)
K&N filter
muffler removed (incredibly restrictive)

had my GF pace beside me in my car to measure the speed and it matches up with the speedo
sounds good man


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wats the difference size wise between this bike and the gs57?
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oh and can someone tell me wat is the difference between the regular 90cc and the speed max edition?
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oh and can someone tell me wat is the difference between the regular 90cc and the speed max edition?
Speed Max edititon has:
REAL shifter not the linkage (4 up)
powder coated frame.... and any other steel part has been powder coated as well
REAL CABLE SPEEDO.... not the electric junk that's innacurate
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better paint schemes
Billett handle grips (other is a rubber clone)
all around better quality.... I've got both types in the shop

seems like the other is a real dog to ride..... nothing like the Speed Max

I bought the Speed Max one for myself......
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