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Old 08-30-2006   #41
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Re: pheonix? full sized?


I hate when people make fun of the Chinese Super Pockets and then wonder why we diss the small ones. If you don't have anything nice to say, dont say anything. A lot of people have the Chinese ones, and have had little problems. I personally wouldn't spend 1500 bucks for the Pheonix, but I would happily buy a X15 or X18.

BTW: hypnotiq9000, i wouldn't ride the Phoenix on a trail. It looks like a street bike.

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Re: pheonix? full sized?

hey i never meant to insult the full size ones, the x18,x15 and bikes like that are fine. What i meant by pocket bikes are the ones that are non street legal bikes (like cags, blata's, cateye's, x7,x15's,x17's and x18's. What i was meaning with bikes like the phoenix is that if your buying something for street use then a pocket bike shouldn't be what your looking for, it should be something more like a small sportbike (or a moped). I wouldn't want to be driving a 15 mile route and and have my carb crack or exhaust fall off. The reason why i'm saying this about the phoenix is that it seems to be kinda pointless for the price, i mean if it was just 100-200 bucks more money than an x18 than your getting a bargain but 1500$ for a 125cc no name small motorcycle it kida seems 500$ overpriced. You might be thinking why i'm not saying this about an aprilia or a ysr but those have actual brand names so you no your buying quality. Also the small pocket bikes are the ones who started the whole pocket bike thing so midbikes wouldn't really be alive if it weren't for them.

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Old 08-30-2006   #43
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Oh, and I suppose $1500 for a Blata or Polini is okay?
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Hey those are racing machines. If blata or polini made a full size (which i actually hope one of them do) i wouldn't be saying that's a ripoff. It's kinda like the production vette and the vette made for hardcore track racing, sure your going to spend more money but your buying something that can take long amounts of full throttle a more durable racing clutch and stiffer racing suspension, in this case the racing vette is like a blata or polini.
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ok come on dont get away from the tread ,is not the same a street bike an a track bike ,is not fair my ysr agains 100cc nsr that cost 5g's i would not pay that amount of money ,but for a bike that must pass all the test that the goverment say they must pass to be legal ,1,600 is not that bad.i want to see more of the of the bike and a full review.
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Don't ever compare Corvettes to blatas or polinis, cause Corvettes actually have a good price for the punch they're packing. If blata made a full size bike, it would have a 50cc engine (cause they seem to love them), and would cost around $10,000 problly. You could buy a regular bike for that much, and a very good one at that. I'd rather buy the regular Corvette, cause with the money I save, I could build a race Corvette that I like and meets my expectations. I wouldn't have the same racer as everyone else. Just like I'd rather buy a cheap cag, and highly modify it, becuase I would have saved over $1000. I would wip any Blata or Polini. And don't say its cheap, cause with that much, you could do anything.
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ok come on dont get away from the tread ,is not the same a street bike an a track bike ,is not fair my ysr agains 100cc nsr that cost 5g's i would not pay that amount of money ,but for a bike that must pass all the test that the goverment say they must pass to be legal ,1,600 is not that bad.i want to see more of the of the bike and a full review.
i agree wiht every single thing u said lol
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Don't ever compare Corvettes to blatas or polinis, cause Corvettes actually have a good price for the punch they're packing. If blata made a full size bike, it would have a 50cc engine (cause they seem to love them), and would cost around $10,000 problly. You could buy a regular bike for that much, and a very good one at that. I'd rather buy the regular Corvette, cause with the money I save, I could build a race Corvette that I like and meets my expectations. I wouldn't have the same racer as everyone else. Just like I'd rather buy a cheap cag, and highly modify it, becuase I would have saved over $1000. I would wip any Blata or Polini. And don't say its cheap, cause with that much, you could do anything.
again i agree lol the other bike i linked is awesome too i think its actually a little better
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Now I agree, lol, I like both bikes. But I like the styling of the Phoenix better, while the other one seems more performance oriented. If only I had the cash, but 4 now, I'm praying 4 a X15 or X18. WHich is better?
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Hey isaid racing vettes, made for the lemans 24 hour. I get a subscription to road and track and know about this, i'm not comparing the corvette c6 to the zo6, i'm comparing the c6 to the c6.R. The regular c6 is street legal and has a 400hp engine and costs around 44,995$. The c6.R endurance racing corvette costs over 1000,000$ and has a 505hp engine, also it's a limited production so not eveybody can get it. go look at the specs of the regular c6 on this site http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2005/index.shtml
and then the specs of the c6.R on this site.http://www.corvetteracing.com/cars/c6r/engine.shtml
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you cant even buy the c6r as a person you really have to know somebody and be mad rich plus corvettes have nothing to do with these bikes not even comparison wise
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O.k fine howbout a civic si compared porche 911. is that a better example?
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okay now thats like if ur coming into a resturant and i ask you do you want **** or steak
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I know your taking about the C6-R, not the ZO6. Thats why I said the RACING Corvette. And I dont need specs, I bet I know more about the Vette than anybody in this forum. I watched almost all 24 hours of Le Mans, cause I love racing. I'm just saying, Corvettes are Corvettes, and Blatas are overpriced, I mean Blatas. And you cant buy a C6-R just like that. They only have two mainly raced ones, and I think they have a few for testing and parts, so it's not a "Hey, I'm gonna get one" kinda car. Even the older C5-R's they keep, to practice pit stops, and racing techniques on. Anyways, Corvette's have alway been GREAT cars. $80,000 for a 505 hp ZO6. That's insane. $80,000 for a Porsche, Ferrari, etc. murderer.

And the Civic to Porsche isn't right either, cause you can mod a rep. to crush a Blata, whilst a Civic will never compare to a Porsche. They aren't even similar. Front engine to rear engine, front wheel drive to rear wheel drive, groccery/ teenage driver crap to track preppable monster. A good comparison would be a new mustang to a 2002 Trans-Am. You can mod a Stang to crush the Trans-Am with the money you save. But both are respectable cars brand new.

BTW: 2002 Trans-Am cause they stopped making it if you didnt know.
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does no one listen to me lol
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I listen, but I had the window open for A WHILE, and I think you posted while I was in the window typing my reply to the other post. I didn't even notice it after I posted though, lol
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its awsome how these threads just fly off course ...
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okay back to the thread does anyone have any mre pics or videos of the pheonix or the bike i linked?
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and wouldnt trying to buy a c6r be like, trying to buy a motogp bike?? well i guess the gp bikes are even more limited..lol
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c6r is worse because there are like 3. gp bikes theres a lot of
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