pheonix? full sized?

look at this site badazztoyz .com and go to streetbikes and can anyone give me an opinion on either of these bikes? are these street bikes as good or better than the x18 and if not is anything better than the x18?

first is street legal so is not a toy and i hope is not a full size bike that will really suck.i hope badazzz put some pics here A.S.A.P to see ,if you notice the tires look big but they are very close to the frame so there are still hopes for something good.

that isnt a x18 or anything like that. it is a street bike, hence street bike. yes it is full sized, its smaller for a full sized though. Hopefuly you guys know that bikes like that are used for the next step up in racing. although, that bike will not do very well, its jsut a chinese replica.

are they faster tho like what is the ts?

Stick with the X18. For the price, nothing compares. The second one I see everywhere, and it's top speed is 55mph I think. But don't spend $1200 for a suposed "pocket bike". That's insane.

Wow...I saw this like a year ago. Badazztoyz was suppose to get them in late September of last year, but they never did. I don't care about the speed as long as it can get up to 45mph. I am already thinking about getting one. MotoGP here I come, lol.

That is not in the same catagory as a Xbike somewhat taller in ride height but motor wise I would much rather see a 125 2 stroke or a 250 4 stroke. That would be fun to flick around on a track with a real 125 2 stroke motor in.

Hey guys im pretty confused about some things here maybe ppl can help me out i Just joined.. and fairly new to the whole side of pocket bike racing. first of all how to you make new posts/threads..?

i dont care if its not a pocket bike i am a bigger guy at about 6 2 200 pnds so i dont care if its a pocket bike or not besides an x18 is a midibike so if this was faster i really would rather buy this besides the name of the game is speed

Then you would be better off wrenching a KX80 motor into it.

i dont wanna go thru all that trouble

i just want to know how big it is,i dont care about how fast it is ,jess if speed is what i want i can find an old katana 600 for that price ,i hope is not as big as the derbi or aprilia bikes .

There was a better picture of that bike last time this thread came around. It looked to be the same size as an Aprilla 250.

wats the top speed?

drop a 2stroke motor in that thang and it would be a cheap track bike..like the earlier post a 2t 125 or 4t 250 would be sweet....it looks similar to the honda fireblade...sweetbike looks like fun...i think it would be worth buy to drop a new powerplant in it

Here are the specs.

Features:
1) Engine: 125cc, 4 stroke, air cooled
2) Max loading: 175kg
3) Front wheel: 110/50-16
4) Rear wheel: 110/50-16
5) Starting system: electric / kick starter
6) Oil tank: 5L
7) Brake: front and rear disk brake
8) Speed: 80km/h

Yes, the Phoenix is full size. Little bigger than the Aprilla. Have taken one for a spin in the warehouse and seems to run good. Too small of an area to see what it can do though.

so you are gonna sell them too, the thing that got to me was on the pic the bike look close to what one of member did with a x7 and he put other size tires on the avatar that thing look sick ,can somebody get some pic like on the bike ,standing beside and how it look to size by size to a midbike that will help me on my decision to get one,i dont want bike that i my feet barely touch the ground when i just sit on the deam thing ,if the seat hight is more than 2 inches higher than my ysr i will pass.

I don't think its a full size bike!?!?!?!? r u sure? because in the pic below, it seems fairly mid-sized between mid- pocketbikes & real full size bikes. unless the guy below is 6'8" or something... I don't believe its full size, but much bigger than pocketbikes. can't wait to see pics of it next to real bikes & pocketbikes.

im getttin that thing 4 sure