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Old 10-05-2009   #1
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X22 problems.


Ok,

so i bought this X22 on craigslist for 150, the kid said it was starting up than shutting off, so i thought maybe the float was sinking, or it needs to be cleaned or the A/F is not tuned right.

once i get it home i turn the key, pull the brake and hit the starter and the solenoid is just sitting there clicking away (great) so i found out the battery is 100% shot, so a ordered a new battery, and picked up a new solenoid for the hell of it guessing the old one was junk, then i was taking a look at the coil and idk it is the stock X22 coil or one pulled from a 2 stroke, because it has the slits for where the magneto hits it to give spark (i also think its a 2 stroke magneto because they spliced the wires..) as it turns out im ordering a new coil, reg, and battery. and have already bought a new solenoid.

so tomorrow im going to check the carb to see if the float it a 10 degrees and if it running to rich or lean, also clean it.

also running to auto zone to pick up a new spark plug.



it seems like it just doesn't want to let the fuel out of the carb, so i put some fuel in the head through the spark plug hole hit the starter and it fired up for about few seconds.


also i needs some paint opinions i was thinking black frame with chameleon paint.


Thanks for your guys help, i know CAM will be in here (i hope)

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also the starter is getting very hot after a few cranks, is that normal?


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Re: X22 problems.

The starter shouldnt be cranked for more than 5-8 seconds and more that 5 concesutive cranks before it bshould be left to cool for atleast 10-15 minutes before retrying...When the bike is properly tuned it should start at the tap of a finger within 3 seconds...all my bikes start-up firts kick or with just a tap of the start button....


The only thing you could do is totally remove the carb and totally disassemble it,clean out all the small crossflow holes in the mainjet holder tube plus pilot jet,,remove the a/f mixture screw,totally douche the carb body out soaking it in carb cleaner.......

While you have the carb open theres a square casting tab on the bottom of the floatbowl that needs to be removed with a dremel of similar grining device...Thats a float restrictor that causes alot of start-up and performance problems............Peace
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The starter shouldnt be cranked for more than 5-8 seconds and more that 5 concesutive cranks before it bshould be left to cool for atleast 10-15 minutes before retrying...When the bike is properly tuned it should start at the tap of a finger within 3 seconds...all my bikes start-up firts kick or with just a tap of the start button....


The only thing you could do is totally remove the carb and totally disassemble it,clean out all the small crossflow holes in the mainjet holder tube plus pilot jet,,remove the a/f mixture screw,totally douche the carb body out soaking it in carb cleaner.......

While you have the carb open theres a square casting tab on the bottom of the floatbowl that needs to be removed with a dremel of similar grining device...Thats a float restrictor that causes alot of start-up and performance problems............Peace

thanks man,

I bought two cans of carb cleaner today and some PB blaster.

can anyone help me find out about this coil im just curious, im going to post a picture in a minute, in sure its a 2 stroke coil.

Pics:
(they tried to paint over the rusted chrome... i got the paint off with goo off XTREME)

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0001.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0003.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0004.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0007.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0008.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0010.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0011.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0012.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/PICT0013.jpg

sorry about the bad pictures night time, forgot the flash, and shaky hand.

ill make sure i'll make a video.

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Re: X22 problems.

wow, did that bike come with any plastics at all??
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wow, did that bike come with any plastics at all??

yea it did lol,

i just took them off for painting, and carb work tomorrow.

the plastics sat in the sun and made the sliver turn gold (looks pretty nice) lol


you should have seen the wires they where just twisted together and electric taped.
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wow, i cant really say nothing, mine was like that just to ride the bike, and then i cleaned up by snippin sum of the electronic wiring, and now i sumwhat clean for the stock wiring, imma remake another wiring harnest
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Re: X22 problems.

yea the sell these nice big wire terminals sets at home depot. there really nice.

Ideal 435 Piece Terminal Kit - 83-1001 at The Home Depot

**i got mine a lowes BTW but lowes website doesn't show them on there website.
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Re: X22 problems.

Is that foil tape I see on the exhaust pipe? If so its gonna burn off something aweful get smokey,gooey and turn brown,gacking up the pipe big time....The coil is a 4 stroke coil but I cannot tell from the pics if they are wired in right...The black with yellow stripe is the coil positive power wire....Crimp terminals are pretty good but nothing beats soldering and shrink wrapping the connects......The cold fusion soldering iron works great for those sort of projects...The cold fusion kit comes with a large solderer and a small one too and they operate off aa batteries...Youre also missing the plastic isolator between the carb and intake...That isolator keeps the carb from heating up vaporizing the gas in the floatbowl while it sits after riding leaving behind fuel residue that will eventually clog up the carb again...Make sure theres a gasket between the head and intake too


Monsta: making a race bike harness will take you 30 mins to an hour to make and install....Its very easy to do and will reduce a lil weight and clutter...You unwrap the harness and remove the CDI plug with as much wire as you can to reconnect to the red with black stripe and the blue with white stripe to the same color wires coming from the stator...the black with white stripe is gonna be your killswitch wire,black with yellow stripe your coil power wire,solid green is a frame ground that goes to the engine ground and the coil body.....

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Re: X22 problems.

i have a isolator.

and i have a gasket between the head and intake.

i cleaned the carb, set the float, and adjusted everything and there is still no fire. i have the battery hooked to a battery charger giving the starter the power (the battery is junk).

how should i have the idle screw set at, i have it halfway.

EDIT: its not foil its some kinda different heat wrap. i plan to get a d-section made for the bike.

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i just got 10 seconds of life outta her! be back soon more adjustments being made.

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Re: X22 problems.

sounds like your on the right track
one bad thing about the x22 is no kickstart, its a nice option
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sounds like your on the right track
one bad thing about the x22 is no kickstart, its a nice option

yea,

i order to get it to fire i have to hold the choke for a while.
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Re: X22 problems.

Check your carb mount for an airleak and see if the sparkplug needs cleaning and regapping....

When you took apart the carb did you remove and clean the 20 small holes in the part in the pic below?

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/w...bedetailed.jpg

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Check your carb mount for an airleak and see if the sparkplug needs cleaning and regapping....

When you took apart the carb did you remove and clean the 20 small holes in the part in the pic below?

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/w...bedetailed.jpg
Im sure there isn't a air leak.

i ran PB blaster through the jets, then i ran carb cleaner through them. (along with the carb's other parts' n holes

i did clean the plug (was black... i think thats to rich? i can remember), but the gapping seems fine i'm getting spark, but maybe not enough?

i'll have to see when the parts arrive.


thanks for all the help everyone.
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Re: X22 problems.

GOOD news,

i got it running, and that foil stuck did make it smoke up like cheech and chong, i removed it.

i gotta work on the A/F because it bogging down at high speeds or would i have to adjust the c-clip on the needle?

(i haven't rebuilt a bike in years)

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Re: X22 problems.

Bogging down could be from being underjetted or a bad sparkplug possibly the sparkwire.Get a new NGK C7HSA plug and stick it in..Get rid of the crappy chinese plug..Pull the sparkplug and see what color it is and get back to the post....The c-clip only controlls the off idle stumble[flat spot] you get when you go from idle to open throttle if there happens to be any..

When you did the carb did you remove the float restrictor from the floatbowl bottom and did you set the float to a 10 degree angle?Did you swap the cheesy 3/16" fuelline and fuelfilter for 1/4"?All 3 of these things help out alot in getting a properly running bike.......Peace

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Bogging down could be from being underjetted or a bad sparkplug possibly the sparkwire.Get a new NGK C7HSA plug and stick it in..Get rid of the crappy chinese plug..Pull the sparkplug and see what color it is and get back to the post....The c-clip only controlls the off idle stumble[flat spot] you get when you go from idle to open throttle if there happens to be any..

When you did the carb did you remove the float restrictor from the floatbowl bottom and did you set the float to a 10 degree angle?Did you swap the cheesy 3/16" fuelline and fuelfilter for 1/4"?All 3 of these things help out alot in getting a properly running bike.......Peace
i was messing with it today and i seemed to be the A/F messing with the bogging down at full throttle, i changed out the carb to a different one with a on/off for fuel and it has a preset float witch seemed good, hope to getting the fuel filter tomorrow also running 1/4". and the pike already had a NGK plug haha.

well i just cleaned the plug before this and it was brown (but i only ran it for a few) so it could have ran to lean before.

but i seems to be idling just fine now, and running great.


ALSO
my forks seem very loose whenever i hit a bump they wiggle.
and the nut and bolt are on TIGHT.
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Try tightening the fork clamp slack in the neck area between the clamps.....First you have to loosen the lower clamp bolts that bind the forks then tighten the center neck bolt and retighten the lower fork clamp bolts.....................Peace

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Re: X22 problems.

them forks are messed up man, i think some of the balls from the bearings are gone making it uneven.

when all my new parts come in tomorrow i'll make a video.

she starts up on a 1-2 second starter push
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Re: X22 problems.

i also forgot to tell ya,

when i was taking apart the carb there was no clip for the needle (not the c-clip, the clip to keep the needle in pace) couldnt i just make a new clip from a paper clip?
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I would use a small flat washer with a center hole small enough to keep the needle with c-clip locked down thats slotted enough on the side to clear the throttle cable...The slider spring will hold it down..
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