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Old 03-12-2005   #1
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X6 110cc Owners Check This!!!


I read that the X6 110cc motor has a stamping of "107" on the cylinder. Those of you who purchased a "110cc" X6, can u check & verify this? you will need a flashlight. the stamping is on the left side (sitting on bike), right beneath the gas tank/bike frame. when u look in, u will notice the silver heatsink area & then a black casting attached to the right of it. the "E22" head stamp is on the silver area (if u have it). to the RIGHT, the engine size is stamped into the black casting (48cc, 49cc or 107cc).

unfortunately for me, mine is stamped "E22" & then "49cc" allegedly an ebay seller was caught selling "49cc" bikes as "110cc", so check ur ride. please confirm if there is really a "107cc" stamping.

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I read that the X6 110cc motor has a stamping of "107" on the cylinder. Those of you who purchased a "110cc" X6, can u check & verify this? you will need a flashlight. the stamping is on the left side (sitting on bike), right beneath the gas tank/bike frame. when u look in, u will notice the silver heatsink area & then a black casting attached to the right of it. the "E22" head stamp is on the silver area (if u have it). to the RIGHT, the engine size is stamped into the black casting (48cc, 49cc or 107cc).

unfortunately for me, mine is stamped "E22" & then "49cc" allegedly an ebay seller was caught selling "49cc" bikes as "110cc", so check ur ride. please confirm if there is really a "107cc" stamping.
I heard many things to this matter. Some say that it say 49cc to clear the custom even though it is 110cc engine. If it was 110cc bike then they won't let you import.

Well, if it really 49cc then.... what can I say.. false advertisement? Law suits?

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the thing is, the stamping is so small & hard to see, dat I really doubt a customs officer will know any different. externally all the X6s (49, 70 & 110cc) seem to be the same size, so if the paperwork states "49cc", a customs agent prob will not tear down the bike to verify dat it is.

I know of at least 1 buyer recieving a "49cc" bike instead of the advertised "110cc". he had his bike cylinder volume tested, the bike shop confirmed it was indeed a 49cc. if wat u say could be true, dat all the bikes are stamped "49cc" then it will be a NIGHTMARE for a buyer.

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I heard many things to this matter. Some say that it say 49cc to clear the custom even though it is 110cc engine. If it was 110cc bike then they won't let you import. Well, if it really 49cc then.... what can I say.. false advertisement? Law suits?

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the thing is, the stamping is so small & hard to see, dat I really doubt a customs officer will know any different. externally all the X6s (49, 70 & 110cc) seem to be the same size, so if the paperwork states "49cc", a customs agent prob will not tear down the bike to verify dat it is.

I know of at least 1 buyer recieving a "49cc" bike instead of the advertised "110cc". he had his bike cylinder volume tested, the bike shop confirmed it was indeed a 49cc. if wat u say could be true, dat all the bikes are stamped "49cc" then it will be a NIGHTMARE for a buyer.
http://www.wholesalepricebusters.com...0cc_ebay_5.jpg

Check it against that..

BTW are you happy how the bike rides though?

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I've seen those pics. problem is they don't prove anything. its not like they zoomed in on the cylinders & got the stampings on it. and those are lifan motors, it may or may not be the same motors dat come on our bikes!?!?!?!?!

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http://www.wholesalepricebusters.com...0cc_ebay_5.jpg

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BTW are you happy how the bike rides though?

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those motors in the pics have different heads...if you look at the right sides of the you will see the difference....and plus other parts of the head are different too...def not the same motor
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I've seen those pics. problem is they don't prove anything. its not like they zoomed in on the cylinders & got the stampings on it. and those are lifan motors, it may or may not be the same motors dat come on our bikes!?!?!?!?!
Actually they do prove some points. The specific picture that I have posted, you can tell the engine on the right has more fins. Plus it just looks bigger. See the black part of the engine? That is where the cylinder is and if you look at it closely it is definitely bigger than the 50cc.

Also if you go to there site, you can see series of pictures that present various size of engines side by side.

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Let me break out a bad news for you.

From The Source that I have, 110cc automatic transmission does not exist as of now. If someone says 110cc Automatic, think twice about it.

However, there are 49cc 4 stroke with 4speed tranny is actually 106cc engine.

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I have a 107 fully auto, I also have a 86cc 4 speed and a 97cc fully auto. I have had many engines stamped 48 and 49 that turn out to be 72s, they will never turn out to be any more than that since the larger engines use a totally different set up as the crank has more stroke on anything larger than a factory 72cc.

Sources would only be correct if they were dealing with consistency, I have learned to assume nothing with these Chinese engines and just measure everything that I come across before ordering parts for it.

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Let me break out a bad news for you.

From The Source that I have, 110cc automatic transmission does not exist as of now. If someone says 110cc Automatic, think twice about it.

However, there are 49cc 4 stroke with 4speed tranny is actually 106cc engine.

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I have an x-8 with a 110cc engine that was supposed to be 49cc Every peice of paper indicates it is 49cc but here is an easy way to verify your engine size

for my bike it was 152fmh and every single google result shows it at 110cc.

it has no T pattern on the head
it has the starter on the botton
it has auto trans
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Well I have a 110 cc and the engine case has the 152 in the ser # if you have that then it most likely is a 110cc.All i know is that my son hasnt lost a race yet .......Aganst X12 X7 Xanything ....howeaver i have modified the bike not the eng.just the susp and the swing arm .... we are runing a 130/90/10 in thr rear and a 90/90/10 in the front. perellis so he gos full throtle all the time...the x 12 is too heavy in my op.and the gears dont realy sem to mater that much.I think its couse the tires are chees china.they wont hold the tack.It seems .
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some pix

Here are some pix of the bike in the development stage.It has changed eaven more since pix
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The easy way to tell if you have a 110cc engine is to look at the front cam cover the 110cc has the fins going up and down anything else has the fins in a plus sign. They do have a 110 with automatic I own one and it is real quick.
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Here are some pix of the bike in the development stage.It has changed eaven more since pix
I seen this bike in Fontana if I do recall. I remember the rear tire set-up.
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Well I have a 110 cc and the engine case has the 152 in the ser # if you have that then it most likely is a 110cc.All i know is that my son hasnt lost a race yet .......Aganst X12 X7 Xanything ....howeaver i have modified the bike not the eng.just the susp and the swing arm .... we are runing a 130/90/10 in thr rear and a 90/90/10 in the front. perellis so he gos full throtle all the time...the x 12 is too heavy in my op.and the gears dont realy sem to mater that much.I think its couse the tires are chees china.they wont hold the tack.It seems .
well as for the tires giving way is more in part to incorrect throttle management through the corners. Although the China tires are cheap they are alot better then the cheapy cag tires and even better then the Mid 2smoke tires. As I was watching alot of 110 riders during races I notice they get on the throttle to soon in a corner so when the bike is pitched over in or before the peak of the turn they roll on throttle and toss the rear end from to much torque being applied before the bike has more rubber on te the ground to hold grip. Swapping these china tires would help dramatically though
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well as for the tires giving way is more in part to incorrect throttle management through the corners. Although the China tires are cheap they are alot better then the cheapy cag tires and even better then the Mid 2smoke tires. As I was watching alot of 110 riders during races I notice they get on the throttle to soon in a corner so when the bike is pitched over in or before the peak of the turn they roll on throttle and toss the rear end from to much torque being applied before the bike has more rubber on te the ground to hold grip. Swapping these china tires would help dramatically though
yea it dose seem that this is a concerne howeaver.IFthe tires hold the track then you can screw the gas on sooner.Without consequence.theese little bikes dont realy have enough power to spin the rear wheel.the reason the bike gets sideways.is the rear swing arm flexxxxxxxxx.So to eliminate this I made my own.As you know.these two facters work together.eliminating one problem isnt good enough.I think that the X bike 2 and four strokes have the same tires.same manufacturer.Idont think that the tires have a high rubber content.they seem to be more of a nylon compound than real rubber.imop.
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cant u feel the difference? i cant found the stamp!

cant u feel the difference? i cant found the stamp!




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I've seen those pics. problem is they don't prove anything. its not like they zoomed in on the cylinders & got the stampings on it. and those are lifan motors, it may or may not be the same motors dat come on our bikes!?!?!?!?!
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Hey ya'll , I'm the service manager @ Marobo Scooters and I have seen many cylinders that are not what they say they are . Some say 49 cc and they are , some say 49 cc and they are a 70 cc bore , I have a couple that say 86 and 92 and they are 70 cc bores with a much larger head .. I also just picked up a X-12 shifter/kickstart motor with a smoked top end and it is also stamped 49 cc , I should have the top end off this week because i'm just as curious as everyone else ... I'll post my findings in this week ... SeeYa !!!
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