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Old 01-16-2006   #1
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New 2 stroke import rules.


From what I have been told nothing is 100% yet. The new rules that went into effect on Jan 1st, 2006 are still being discussed between the major importers and the EPA. Nobody knows exactly how they will effect the 2 and 4 stroke imports coming from ANY country.

Right now anything you hear are just rumors.

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Hmmm good Do you have any links or anything on the subject? I searched google but didnt find anything
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Its about about global warming. Don't they understand global warming will never be reduced unless we do away with everything that runs off of oil.
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It's too late to do anything about it anyway,We screwed up our planet and now it's going to get really hot and evrything is going to melt
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more than melt. global warming affects more things than you may think. yes the polar caps will melt, but hurricanes and other storms will become increasingly stronger, they will be more occuring, our season changes will be more dramatic, average temperatures will grow increasingly higher and lower, and tons of other things. everything from wind coming off the water at the beach being stronger to bigger and stronger hurricanes can, will, and has already started to happen.

by the time everyone is driving a hybrid that runs on hydrogen or electricity, its gunna time for me to watch my grandkids go to college
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Thanks Robert for the information that you always shair with us.
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showgun, do you always attatch a picture to an end of your entry?
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My bad bro it is just habit from being on all the Camaro and Cadillac forums !
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hahaha *** is that? Its like a devil chick
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Global warming is alot more complicated than emissions, do your research they still haven't been able to conclusively prove that it's even due to humans.
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Environmental Protection
Agency
Air and Radiation EPA420-F-02-045
September 2002
Office of Transportation and Air Quality
Emission Exemption for Racing
Motorcycles and Other Competition
Vehicles
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has adopted emission
standards for recreational vehicles, including snowmobiles, off-highway
motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles. This information sheet addresses
questions we have heard from owners about vehicles that are used for
racing.
Is EPA regulating racing vehicles?
In the 1990 Amendments to the Clean Air Act, the U.S. Congress directed
EPA to set emission standards for nonroad engines that contribute
to air pollution, including motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles (ATVs), and
snowmobiles. However, Congress excluded nonroad vehicles that are
“used solely for competition.” We therefore adopted regulations that
generally exclude from the new regulations vehicles used for competition.
What qualifies as competition?
For snowmobiles, motorcycles, and ATVs, we generally consider the
term “competition” to include only organized racing. It may include both
amateur and professional racing, but is limited to closed-course racing
and open-course racing that is formally sanctioned by a recognized
racing organization. All other uses are considered to be “recreational.”
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What about existing vehicles?
Our regulations do not require manufacturers to certify vehicles before
2006. Therefore, the EPA restrictions related to competition generally do
not apply to vehicles that were manufactured before 2006. We do not
restrict how you may use these older vehicles.
How do I know if my vehicle is excluded?
Manufacturers generally already label most racing vehicles to show that
they are competition models. We allow manufacturers to put those labels
only on those vehicles that we determine will be used solely for competition.
Manufacturers will need to certify that all their other vehicles meet
our standards and add a label showing that these are EPA-certified
vehicles. If you use an EPA-certified vehicle for competition only, it
does not need to meet emission standards. This would allow you to
modify it however you want, but only if you use it solely for competition
and not for any recreational purpose. These criteria are summarized in
the following table.
Restrictions on Use and Maintenance


Which vehicles may a manufacturer label as
competition vehicles?
We adopted a general provision under which we will allow a manufacturer
to label new vehicles for competition whenever that manufacturer
can show us that the vehicles will be used only for competition. We also
include specific guidance to help manufacturers make this showing. We
worked with manufacturers throughout the rulemaking process to ensure
that we properly treat vehicles that are used for competition in our
regulations.
Are motorcycles, ATVs and snowmobiles treated the
same?
No. We created special provisions for motorcycles that will make it
easier for manufacturers to get permission to label their competition
motorcycles. Unlike ATVs and snowmobiles, a very large fraction of offhighway
motorcycles are used for amateur racing. It is important to note,
though, that we will not exempt any model and allow a manufacturer to
label it for competition if we do not believe it will be used only for
competition.
What kinds of vehicles may I use for competition?
You may generally use any of three kinds of vehicles for competition:
• A vehicle with an EPA label showing that the manufacturer has
produced it under our competition exemption
• A vehicle that was built before 2006
• An EPA-certified vehicle
It may be surprising to think that EPA-certified vehicles would be used
in competition, but all four-stroke motorcycles should meet emission
standards without any loss of performance. So, we expect most manufacturers
to market EPA-certified four-stroke motorcycles for racing. We
also included an optional standard for motorcycles to encourage manufacturers
to produce and certify clean two-stroke competition motorcycles.
May I modify a vehicle for competition?
You may modify your vehicle’s engine or emission controls in any way
if it is not subject to our standards. This applies to all vehicles built
before 2006 and all vehicles that have the EPA label for competition
from the manufacturer.
You may also modify EPA-certified vehicles if you will use them only
for competition. However, you may not modify your EPA-certified
vehicle in a way that increases emissions if you use the vehicle for both
recreation and competition.
May I use an uncertified vehicle just for fun?
You may use any older vehicles that were built in 2005 or earlier. For
2006 and later models, you may not use an uncertified vehicle for noncompetition
use. You are not allowed to use an excluded competition
vehicle for recreational purposes if it was built in 2006 or later.
What requirements apply to excluded vehicles?
There are two EPA requirements that apply to competition vehicles that
are excluded from the regulations. First, as described above, if we
exclude a vehicle, you may not use it for recreation. Second, if your
vehicle is excluded because you modify an EPA-certified vehicle, you
must destroy the original emissions label to show that it is no longer
“certified” and may only be used for competition. Once you modify your
vehicle, you may no longer use it for recreation. If you sell or give one
of these engines to someone else, you must tell the new owner in writing
that it may be used only for competition.
In addition to these EPA requirements, state and local governments may
have requirements or restrictions that apply to excluded vehicles. For
example, a state may require you to register your competition vehicle, or
may prohibit use of excluded vehicles on public land.
Where can I get more information?
You can access documents on recreational vehicles on the Office of
Transportation and Air Quality Web site at:

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/recveh.htm
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holyyyyyyyyy COW! that is some pretty good information. nice job...all this epa certified stuff kind of reminds me of i-robot. all the future companies and registrations and all that. guess we're really breakin new ground.....not necessarily good ground....but the "future" i guess we could call it...wheres doc when we need him
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Yeah, so i figure, with all that info, all the china suppliers have to do is mark them as Competition Racing Models and they will get right past customs.

A vehicle with an EPA label showing that the manufacturer has
produced it under our competition exemption
• A vehicle that was built before 2006
• An EPA-certified vehicle


They have to meet one of those regulations
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so how are all of us gunna do that? do you need that stuff to have it registered? somehow i highly doubt that they will really be checking out every single bike....but when it comes to kids on the street this may be the cops new reason to take the bike away....besides the stupidity
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were not gonna do it, the manufactuers are gonna do it
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Red face Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Just had a thought - in addition to the labeling, won't this impact the whole "lights, horn, signal" stuff on the Mid-bike 2 strokes (X-6/7/8 et al). If you think about it, why would you need lights and all that junk for racing?

Not sure if the EPA/Customs/Feds are smart enough to figure that one out though, so it might just be my idle paranoia.

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you have a point. are the manufacters making these bikes with lights and horns and everything encouraging people to ride on the streets at night? as soon as a kid gets thier pocket bike they are gonna want to try all thier gadgets with the lights at night, watch thier speedo that isnt even accurret 24/7 not looking at the road and put them selves in a dangerous situation so they can honk at a car or pedestrian making the chance of scaring the sh*t out of the driver of the car and slamming on brakes or worst or scares off a pedestrian and maybe jump in your way.its a good way to get the cops called on you and have them either A). take your bike and get fined and B).get fined or C).get warning or what other a cop has to throw at you.
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its going to be up to the manuf.of said vehical,they even need to pass a test on the vehical in a closed "room" with an O2 cencor mounted above the tank to check for vapor expeltion.the manufacture send over a few bikes to a private company here to check them.even if they pass the vehicals are destroyed.what a waste.
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Quote:
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Its about about global warming. Don't they understand global warming will never be reduced unless we do away with everything that runs off of oil.
"Global warming" has nothing to do with humans being here. It's a cycle the sun is going through. Back in the 50's they were up in arms about "global cooling".....back in the 60's they said the worlds oil would run out in 10 to 20 years. Bring on the environmentalists......they're gonna cry the blues with this post.
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"Global warming" has nothing to do with humans being here. It's a cycle the sun is going through. Back in the 50's they were up in arms about "global cooling".....back in the 60's they said the worlds oil would run out in 10 to 20 years. Bring on the environmentalists......they're gonna cry the blues with this post.
wow thanks i was gettin scared readin all the other posts. haha. nice bike too. i got the same color. 2 or 4 stroke?
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