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Old 08-14-2005   #1
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possible cheap nos kit?


ok, so im no expert at this, but we all know a wet nos system is supposed to give huge gains in power, as seen at pbu. but there system for nos is ****ing *** expensive, which is total bs. couldnt we run nos on our pocket bikes? personally, i think it could be possible,

so lets say your running wot, every stroke arent you putting the same amount of air/fuel mixture in the same ratio? and i mean at wot, if so, why cant we measure this ratio and have the same ratio except with nos instead of air?

Im not sure if your supposed to use half the amount of nos to air in a .5 nos/1 air ratio when your replacing the air with nos, but w/e.

What i was thinking is in a pvc pipe endcapped a little smaller than our engine, we put the same ratio of air to fuel, except instead of having air, we have nos inside the pvc. then we hook it up like a boost bottle to the intake manifold and somehow we create something that will close the air coming from the carb, and open the wet nos pvc so that revolution it it will get nos.

It seems pretty crazy and skeptical, but anyone think it would work?

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i woudlnt know but..
it sounds alot like my Starter Fluid idea, like tape a starter fluid can on the handlebars, have a tube connected to the nozzle, run the tube all the way into the air filter, where when you give the bike a tiny spray of the fluid, the intake inhales it through, mixing it with the gas/air and boom, performance. i got shut down tho wit that idea lol
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i woudlnt know but..
it sounds alot like my Starter Fluid idea, like tape a starter fluid can on the handlebars, have a tube connected to the nozzle, run the tube all the way into the air filter, where when you give the bike a tiny spray of the fluid, the intake inhales it through, mixing it with the gas/air and boom, performance. i got shut down tho wit that idea lol
starter fluid eh? lol idk about that, you can try, can anyone give me a thumbs up or down on my idea? the main key is that the carb is closed off and the pvc piece with nos is opened, and since the pvc has a perfect amount of gas to nos ratio in it, it runs off of that until your out of it, infact, since you could find out how much gas is in the mixture at your wot, you could keep those results and multiply them times alot to get a longer lasting nos boost
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You must consider if it works are you killing your engine?Do you have an idea for jets for that set up?Too much spray=more heat and piston will fry or rings will.You will need more fuel to go with the spray to be safe.No extra fuel she will run too rich and seize.These engines can not handle straight nos with no air intake from the carb.Have you ever seen a pro mod car that run with a set up that runs on pure nos and no air from the carbs?Those pro mod engines cant handle that so I'm shure a 2 stroke with cheap internal parts cant either.To get hp with spray you haft to get the right amount of fuel and air with the spray.Do a search on nos tunning and you will know what I'm talkin about.Great idea but you can make a engine blow up machine.If you got a few engines to trial and error go for it.Keep us posted..
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ok, so im no expert at this, but we all know a wet nos system is supposed to give huge gains in power, as seen at pbu. but there system for nos is ****ing *** expensive, which is total bs. couldnt we run nos on our pocket bikes? personally, i think it could be possible,

so lets say your running wot, every stroke arent you putting the same amount of air/fuel mixture in the same ratio? and i mean at wot, if so, why cant we measure this ratio and have the same ratio except with nos instead of air?

Im not sure if your supposed to use half the amount of nos to air in a .5 nos/1 air ratio when your replacing the air with nos, but w/e.

What i was thinking is in a pvc pipe endcapped a little smaller than our engine, we put the same ratio of air to fuel, except instead of having air, we have nos inside the pvc. then we hook it up like a boost bottle to the intake manifold and somehow we create something that will close the air coming from the carb, and open the wet nos pvc so that revolution it it will get nos.

It seems pretty crazy and skeptical, but anyone think it would work?
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the carb can't be closed. it must be under wot. also nitrous works best at 900psi,pvc won't hold.check ebay get all your parts there. i've pieced together numerous systems. there all 150hp and up systems for like $300.00. my 300shot (nozzle,jets,all lines,bottle,solenoids,relys,wot,hobbs,and window switches)on my car cost $26.00. that was buying different systems and selling what i didn't need.nitrous can be your friend, but if you haven't used it before you really need to get educated. too much fuel is as bad as to much nitrous.most people don't know about it and only pass on bs that they've been told.and really these motors aren't strong enough to handle cylinder pressure produced by nitrous.but if done consevitively in small doses it'll work.check with mike at www.nitroussupply.com they know there stuff.

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the carb can't be closed. it must be under wot. also nitrous works best at 900psi,pvc won't hold.check ebay get all your parts there. i've pieced together numerous systems. there all 150hp and up systems for like $300.00. my 300shot (nozzle,jets,all lines,bottle,solenoids,relys,wot,hobbs,and window switches)on my car cost $26.00. that was buying different systems and selling what i didn't need.nitrous can be your friend, but if you haven't used it before you really need to get educated. too much fuel is as bad as to much nitrous.most people don't know about it and only pass on bs that they've been told.and really these motors aren't strong enough to handle cylinder pressure produced by nitrous.but if done consevitively in small doses it'll work.check with mike at www.nitroussupply.com they know there stuff.

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Thanks for the info dude, yeah my main idea now is running one of those metal tubes into a nipple tapered into the intake manifold like a boost tube, except filled with nos, but i gotta find a way to only give it a tiny bit of nos at a time, like a electric switch thats semi automatic so it will somehow allow a little to go in with the air/fuel mixture,

~ oh yeah, to the people who replied, my main idea was to have the bottle filled with a correct mixture of gas, air, and nos, for my engine, at the same cubic displacement (49cc's), so i wanted to cut the carbeurator since i wouldnt need more fuel in the mixture anyway, thats why i wanted to cut the carb, then i realized that if it was the size of the cylander it would only affect 1 rpm, which wouldnt do much, so you see, cutting the carb would be a good idea in that manner.

Ill keep you guys posted, im gonna try to talk with pbu guys about their wet nos kit and figure out the ratio of nos:air:fuel in the cylander that their wet nos kit uses
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If your talking the whip its NOS setup check ebay. Be fore warned though alot of people have tried these little mini nos set ups and found (when thier engine blows) that the stock chinese crap metal our engines are made out of arent designed to handle it.
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