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Old 09-13-2004
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B1 Origami vs GRC RR 50cc Bi-Zeta


Looking at both of these bikes and a price differential of $800 less for the B1 what major differences are there between the bikes and which one is better for racing.
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I would say the GRC with the Bi-Zeta parts as far as performance is concerned. I could be wrong though.
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The new Bi-Zeta powered, 50cc 16HP DM GP would be the choice!
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GRC RR, they both look like good bikes but the GRC RR broke the world pocketbike speed record (modified)
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The new Bi-Zeta powered, 50cc 16HP DM GP would be the choice!
WHAT THE HELL!? Who in their right mind would ride a 16hp bike!? I know I wouldn't touch that bike. I wouldn't mind having it and show casing it though.


After riding your 10hp DM GP, Freddie, I know DM bikes are no joke. That sucker hauled a$$! My 9.2hp scares me too.
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GRC RR, they both look like good bikes but the GRC RR broke the world pocketbike speed record (modified)
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Yes, and the first one was broken with an Origami, but that shouldn't be indicative of whether or not the Minimoto is something you should consider purchasing. Personally, I've never been impressed with Origami's. No offense to those who own them, but they're overated and overpriced.

RR or Origami? I'd go with the RR, hands down. Throw DM into the equation and it wouldn't be hard to figure out which I'd choose.

Essentially, it's the rider, not the bike, but as always, I'd like to see prospective buyers make informed decisions. It is not my intent to discourage anyone from purchasing anything Italian or Czech made. You just can't go wrong regardless.

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Italian or Czech. You can't go wrong.
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WHAT THE HELL!? Who in their right mind would ride a 16hp bike!?
Perhaps with the pilot skills of Robbie Wilkey, I would brave such an awesome and powerful Minimoto, but as things stand now, certainly not me, LOL.
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Perhaps with the pilot skills of Robbie Wilkey, I would brave such an awesome and powerful Minimoto, but as things stand now, certainly not me, LOL.
Man, not too many people can say they've ridden a 16hp let alone OWN and tame one!
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Italian or Czech. You can't go wrong.
Correction to the original post made.

IMO, the Elite Series is a better buy than the Origami, especially the WRS. I've always thought the 13's were vicious little machines. That's just me though.

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Don't sweat it. We all make them.

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IMO, the Elite Series is a better buy than the Origami, especially the WRS. I've always thought the 13's were vicious little machines. That's just me though.

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So true. While I love the look and sound of a B1, I love the performance I see in the WRS. The whole Elite13 series is nice. My other favorite bikes are GRCs and DMs. Which ever one I can get my hands on next is the one i'll be riding. I want a water cooled bike already, lol. Nothing wrong with a/c.

So Freddie, how long am I technically allowed to ride my bike in say 1:00pm weather (generally sunny and hot)? What about when it gets cooler around 5:00Pm?

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Ps: Sorry for the thread jack but I think the question has been answered already. GRC RR.
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So Freddie, how long am I technically allowed to ride my bike in say 1:00pm weather (generally sunny and hot)? What about when it gets cooler around 5:00Pm?
IMO, I wouldn't ride it for more than 15 minutes before shutting down and allowing it to completely cool off. It doesn't sound like much, but you can run a ton of laps in 15 minutes. Cool weather would keep me out there maybe another 10 minutes.

BTW, I absolutely love the straight forward design of the A/C 13's. It makes wrenching and diagnosing problems a sinch. The only problem is, as your bike begins to heat excessively, you start losing HP, but that wouldn't make me trade it for a H2O. As you have witnessed, Neil is able to remain competative throughout the entire race on his A/C RSR.

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As you have witnessed, Neil is able to remain competative throughout the entire race on his A/C RSR.
Neil's RSR is A/C? WTH...I did not know that. I was riding that sucker hard and long. I assumed it was W/C. Oops! I guess I better apologize if he had anything in mind.
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Yes, I was checking out his RSR and it was air-cooled.
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Lol...

That bike was indeed fast. Not enough to kill you but fast enough to hang with the crew.
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.....now a vote for the B1......

the 50cc GRC RR is a great bike....if you're looking just to ride in the 50cc open class, than go for the 50cc bizeta RR. If you have the opportunity to get a B1 and save a few bucks, go for it. You can also get away with riding a 40cc open in a 50cc open class.....one bike, two classes, more track time.

By the way...GRC has a 13hp 40cc that's quite competitve as well and many riders put this bike into both 40 and 50 open classes.

If you haven't already seen, Blata does have some new upgrades to their motor that has made the B1 more competitive. For the current price of a new B1 and the upgrades, you'd have a very competitive bike and still save some money and it's still only 40cc's.
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get the grc rr its the daddy i got rid of my polini gp3 13hp to get what ive got now its a fare better bike and real easy to ride even with all thet power you just have to learn to ride hanging over the front of the bike .
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