HI to Everyone.
This is my idea of a class structure for the 07 season, it is all up for discussions.
1) CAG, Mod CAG and Blata 2.5- any pipe,reeds,carb,any top end,original bottom engine.
2) Production-Polini 3 port cylinder with any Pipe,any reeds,no internal modifications,14/14 carb.
3)Open class-5 port cylinder and 3 port BZM high performance cylinder,any pipe,reeds,carb,any internal mod.
That looks to be the direction things are going..Most bikes have a racing exhaust and to call them anything more than production is not going to cut it..They are not nearly a fast as the BZM motors or the hybrids.You still have to ride the bike but you get the picture.
correct me if i'm wrong, but if you put a top end and pipe on a Blata 2.5 doesn't it end up being a 6.2? if so, that would spank even a modded Cag and that doesn't seem like a fair match-up. why not leave the Cag class alone? Is the proposal to let 2.5 Blatas in the Cag class to increase the numbers in the class?
correct me if i'm wrong, but if you put a top end and pipe on a Blata 2.5 doesn't it end up being a 6.2? if so, that would spank even a modded Cag and that doesn't seem like a fair match-up. why not leave the Cag class alone? Is the proposal to let 2.5 Blatas in the Cag class to increase the numbers in the class?
I think we can cross the "wicked fast 2.5" bridge when/if we get there.
Looks good to me for 2007.
Will we allow bikes to race up a class? ie proddy racing in open.
Will we allow bikes to race down a class? ie open in proddy.
classes sound great to me if. I just don't want to give Sugar Hill another dime of my money. I am not saying that I will not be at every race, but I am not going to race in all classes, even though I might have a bike for every class. Also, the number of riders will decide on the number of classes. Well atleast at sugar hill, the HP just doesn't matter there. just my .02
For next years season:
I think that we should have a few races at each of these tracks:
Sugar Hill, NH (4 races)
Rocky Ridge, VT (4 races)
and then have one or two big races at each of these tracks:
Cherry Valley, NY (2 races)
EnglishTown, NJ (2-3 races)
REAL RACERS find RACES.......travel in not a question...
1-For the productions and the open class the number of rider will be the factor to consider, if we have the number ,we can split the class, if not we will run as one class(like this season)
2-If you want to run in open class with a proddy,no problem.
if you run a open class bike in proddy? no points.
We should start to think a point structure for are series, any idea ?
[quote=douglas murray]. I just don't want to give Sugar Hill another dime of my money.
Now let me get this straight..Sugar Hill welcomes you in to their track..Lets you race provides facilities and ambulance and a pretty good time for around fifty bucks.If it were not for Sugar Hill you would not be here.I myself like the track its not the best track but I always leave in good spirits.
Cherry Valley?? You enjoy giving Junior your money for a beat track and no riders??? Give me a break Doug..You should do your homework.We need to start thinking about our own survival at our own tracks that WE ALL attend to faithfully..Englishtown you never even got to compete there..It rained out so you don't really know if you like the track.Plus with ridership at both of the other venues on a serious decline it is doubtfull races will even be held at either track.
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Will we allow bikes to race up a class? ie proddy racing in open
Will we allow bikes to race down a class? ie open in proddy.
Good question Tony..I think you should be able to go up a class with a proddy spec bike but no way for open bikes to move down.Lets take my 50cc ZPF motor, down the straight it just walks away and throw in a little skill and its not fair.HP does play a role at Sugar Hill.But one thing for sure I don't know if you would want to put a open bike at Rocky Ridge.Where the heck are you going to use that power.well see I guess.
Just looking back at Davide's post of coarse if there is only one class all bikes should and would compete against one another..But if the classes are split and open bike in the proddy at the very least start at the back of the pack with no points.
I had more fun and had way more track time on a rained out event at englishtown than I ever had at a full event at sugarhill. I have done my homework, the problem that I have at sugarhill is that we pay to race and we get in a practice or two and then it rains, no refund or even a discount on the next weeks race. At least the people at englishtown gave us a raincheck for the race. I know that practice was a seperate pay structure than the race, but I think you get my point. And yes, I would rather ride that beat track for a whole day with one or two other riders than get a whole 40 laps at sugarhill with 8 riders. I do have a great time at sugarhill and plan on attending every race in our upcoming season but it is deffinately not for the track, it is for the people that we ride with. I know that you are not serious about only spending 50 bucks when you go to sugarhill, lets see here: 17 for pits (nicole, brendan, and myself) $51 plus two race classes, that is another $40, and then there is the transponder, another $5 i think. For me it is more like $100. And then the rain comes and ........... well you know what happens next. (I know that it is even more for you, I don't know how you do it....mad props to ya) Needless to say, I do appreciate the track for allowing us to run there and I really appreciate you for everything you have done for me and for our sport. I will see you at the track.
Like I said two years ago we had no place to ride..Sugar Hill gives us a place to lay down some laps..If you had done your homework you would see that you may not have any other option for next year.I just feel that you knock the track that lets us race when they could just as easily shut the door on us.(then you will be saying remember how fun it was at the hill)
I read every post that all of the locals post, TSMMR-CAPRA-MMRAC-SEPRA. I know what is going on in the pocketbike community. Lots of people dropping out and no new riders. TSMMR losing their the best leader that a club could look for. I am all for Marc letting the riders take control of the group because it is not a job for just one person, while actually two people because I think that Allison has done just as much and she doesn't even race. I look up to the both of them and would love it if they would attend a few of our races next season. I have a strong feeling that we will see both Marc and Alex at the hill and maybe even in VT in 07. It is not a bad thing but you sound like you are quoting Remy when you said that we should just focus on our home track and not worry about travel until we get our numbers up. Next season I will be supporting the sport as a whole and will be going to every race that I can get my hands on unless it interferes with our points season.
Also, I am willing to do anything to HELP run and support our club. I think a board is in line for our club as well, if we are going to do this right. I would like to see a post from each person that is going to attend the race season next year and maybe post up what class you plan on running so that we can get a small picture of what the open of the season will look like. Just my .02
Jeremy is 100% right..He has been there and done that..As far as us next year we will be around but I am buying Joey a Kart.It seems to have the most available ridership in the junior classes.We will be keeping three bikes and riding only local NH,VT We hope to race Karts in VT and at our local F1 outdoor track.Not sure in class structure with these clubs because we have only discussed this for the past couple of weeks.
i would say that you guys can only count on Big Pants and I the same amount we were there this year; every other race, or every 4 weeks. we both have too much other stuff going on and financial constraints to make it any more than that. we will get an earlier start in the '07 season though, probably making the first race wherever it is. we are looking forward to checking out the VT track.
I like the idea of 4 race at SH and 4 at RR (vt)
A lot depends on what it will uppen with SH.
We growth as a grup and we have good numbers but the over all attendence on Saturday was low compare to 05 for the kart.
At one point SH was thinking to consolidate the Saturday program with the Sunday.
For the point standing, I like to reward the win, so this is my idea
1st-50pt
2nd-35
3rd-25
4 -20
5 -17
6 -15
7 -13
8 -11
9 -9
10 -7
11 -5
12 -4
13 -3
14 -2
15 -1
