yeah i was wearing all my gear the police officer didnt catch me on the bike he seen me and then turned around "ie all he seen or so he said was the head lights" but i seen him so i got off of the bike and started to push it and then a few mins later 6 other cops showed up to see and laugh at me lol.....any ways i sent an email to the mayor today to ask about the laws....and im going to the WSP inspections tomarrow ...it just sucks is all
man *** yo???? gosh to listen to what happened to budweiser got me sooo ****ed.... errrR....yeah thats good that you emailed the mayor about this..to get this shiet over with and give us a law on it so we will be better prepared and worry-free when riding.. i wanna know what hes got to say....
Yup... I want to hear what he say's too. But I still go out riding on the sidewalks and neighborhood streets. I always get at least one complaint from "certain" people when I ride. Trying to tell me its illegal and shiet...f that I brush it off my shoulders and drive off leaving the smoke in their faces.
aye bud if you and your friends still wanna hit alki give me a pm or some ****.
Last edited by Seattle206 : 09-28-2004 at 12:33 PM.
well here is the email that the right hand man to the mayor or something like that this is what he said and what i ask him......LOL
From Tim Ceis Tim.Ceis@Seattle.Gov
Off the tope of my head, I don't know either. I will have it checked
out and get back to you.
>>> James ******* <Protow@hotmail.com> 9/27/2004 11:04:31 AM >>>
hello
i have one of them "pocket bikes" that everyone seems to be talking
about manly the SEATTLE POLICE DEPT"...what i need to know is what is the laws and does and donts? it
seems
that most police officers dont know what the law real is and or if
there
is a law .i even called the WSP and they said i need to talk to a bike cop and ask him what the law is? my thoughts are if theres a law wouldnt you think that ALL police officer might know a thing or two about it? so i would like to know for myself and i know your all might be to bussy right this min to email me back but the sooner the better .becouse there is alot of us "poket bike" owners what to know whats up with the Law and
thank you for your time
James **********
West Seattle
I'm currently working through the red tape for the prefect place to ride!
If you get a chance, drive by the old park and ride in Eastgate.
I dont have the exact address, but it is on Eastgate Way, on the north side of I-90 between Factoria way and 148th st. Easy to find if you know the
east side. This place is huge and no longer used. The concrete is in perfect
cond., and it even has an oval track!!!!
I'll take some Pics for all to see, but if you can, stop by. I did the Homer
druel when i saw this place
Call if anyone wants directions, gotta see this place!!! 425-531-2523
go to nwminimoto.com for info on the park and rides, transit authority put their foot down on using any of their properties, and transit police WILL fine you for it. also, using their spots will put more crap down on chris' and mitches heads at nwminimoto, cause they smoothed transit down about it, but they were the ones that were told not to come back, and its in the best interest for the pb comunity out here to not let nwmm get anymore crap than they need about pb's
private lots are the best option, or anywhere with permission.
Yes, but what about MIDBIKES. They are bigger than pocketbikes. Its pretty obvious it would be illegal to ride true pb's on the street. Not so obvious with the mids. My mid meets many of the above catagories.
And they are being pretty selective about the laws they were quoting. As well as maybe downright lying. For example state patrol can assign the remaining digits for the vin if they deem it roadworthy after inspection. (like a custom harley chopper built from scratch for instance...where's the vin?)
They left out any laws pertaining to motor driven cycles, scooters, and most importantly MOPEDS, which are definately the closest legal match to mids. So as usual were being spoon fed what they want the law to say and not what it does say.
I have a seat on my "foot" scooter and I use it 90% of the time. Is it still a scooter? If I put a footboard on my mid and use it standing up 10% of the time, Is it still a motorcycle? What a bunch of bs. I am so sick of laws that protect me from myself. That aint what soldiers died for.
>>>A kernel error has been detected in your legal system. You will need to format the courts and install a fresh copy of constitution 1776 to correct this problem.<<<
Yes, but what about MIDBIKES. They are bigger than pocketbikes. Its pretty obvious it would be illegal to ride true pb's on the street. Not so obvious with the mids. My mid meets many of the above catagories.
And they are being pretty selective about the laws they were quoting. As well as maybe downright lying. For example state patrol can assign the remaining digits for the vin if they deem it roadworthy after inspection. (like a custom harley chopper built from scratch for instance...where's the vin?)
They left out any laws pertaining to motor driven cycles, scooters, and most importantly MOPEDS, which are definately the closest legal match to mids. So as usual were being spoon fed what they want the law to say and not what it does say.
I have a seat on my "foot" scooter and I use it 90% of the time. Is it still a scooter? If I put a footboard on my mid and use it standing up 10% of the time, Is it still a motorcycle? What a bunch of bs. I am so sick of laws that protect me from myself. That aint what soldiers died for.
>>>A kernel error has been detected in your legal system. You will need to format the courts and install a fresh copy of constitution 1776 to correct this problem.<<<
i love the last tag line on this !!!!!!!!!!
well i think thats what i have is a midbike ..im new to this i know the brake light of mine is about the 15" legal what the law says" lol
ill have to bring this up in court also ...and thanks
Hey Guys this is Mitch Co-owner of NWminimoto. Christopher and I personally know most of the PB dealers around here (both the good and the SHADY listed elsewhere in theis thread) since we were the first shop around. We are still one of 5 in the US that do the mods on the bikes as well. While we were in Vegas we helped another race team with there China bike go from third to first place pulling away with our reeds and tuning. We have many that ship us there engines and bikes from all over the US. I still race my first China half fairing bike that has no seen more than 40 crashes..and it's still one of the fastest China bikes around with our Stage 1-2-3 work.
Let us know if you get the lead on an indoor facility and well have the guys to make it happen. The weather is going to get crapp pretty soon.
Sorry about the late posts on our weekly rides. Weve been very busy with racing our of town. Were now back and ready for more railing!!!!
Yes, but what about MIDBIKES. They are bigger than pocketbikes. Its pretty obvious it would be illegal to ride true pb's on the street. Not so obvious with the mids. My mid meets many of the above catagories.
And they are being pretty selective about the laws they were quoting. As well as maybe downright lying. For example state patrol can assign the remaining digits for the vin if they deem it roadworthy after inspection. (like a custom harley chopper built from scratch for instance...where's the vin?)
They left out any laws pertaining to motor driven cycles, scooters, and most importantly MOPEDS, which are definately the closest legal match to mids. So as usual were being spoon fed what they want the law to say and not what it does say.
I have a seat on my "foot" scooter and I use it 90% of the time. Is it still a scooter? If I put a footboard on my mid and use it standing up 10% of the time, Is it still a motorcycle? What a bunch of bs. I am so sick of laws that protect me from myself. That aint what soldiers died for.
>>>A kernel error has been detected in your legal system. You will need to format the courts and install a fresh copy of constitution 1776 to correct this problem.<<<
Hell yeah good one!!!! You should send this quote to the mayor.....or the president...... OH what am I saying????.... BUSH?!?!?!? FORGET IT.... send it to his secretary so she could lecture him about it.....if it works..... but yeah i was thinking the same because a week after i got my mid i went lookin for laws on it and i was hella confused???? i was thinking a PB should fit in the category between a bicycle and a scooter.....***?!?!? if they gonna do this ...might as well ban bikes which don;t have VINs and all scooters, skateboards, roller blades.... i also doubt they all have VINs? idiots!!!
HINT: The government did this to make money . You see? They target a popular thing like skateboarding and made it illegal to ride in certain areas, street racing, etc.
Popular Hobbies + Gov't making it illegal = Mo' Money!!!! ....for them....from the fines you pay..
I'm currently working through the red tape for the prefect place to ride!
If you get a chance, drive by the old park and ride in Eastgate.
I dont have the exact address, but it is on Eastgate Way, on the north side of I-90 between Factoria way and 148th st. Easy to find if you know the
east side. This place is huge and no longer used. The concrete is in perfect
cond., and it even has an oval track!!!!
I'll take some Pics for all to see, but if you can, stop by. I did the Homer
druel when i saw this place
Call if anyone wants directions, gotta see this place!!! 425-531-2523
Bullitt
yo yo im down.... is it legit?... i ain't tryin to get my azz beat by some pigs... get back at me...
Hell yeah good one!!!! You should send this quote to the mayor.....or the president...... OH what am I saying????.... BUSH?!?!?!? FORGET IT.... send it to his secretary so she could lecture him about it.....if it works..... but yeah i was thinking the same because a week after i got my mid i went lookin for laws on it and i was hella confused???? i was thinking a PB should fit in the category between a bicycle and a scooter.....***?!?!? if they gonna do this ...might as well ban bikes which don;t have VINs and all scooters, skateboards, roller blades.... i also doubt they all have VINs? idiots!!!
HINT: The government did this to make money . You see? They target a popular thing like skateboarding and made it illegal to ride in certain areas, street racing, etc.
Popular Hobbies + Gov't making it illegal = Mo' Money!!!! ....for them....from the fines you pay..
OK OK OK OK
i got a good one now.......
when pepole were riding the **** out of skateboards all over what did they do??????????
HINT HINT!!!
they built a SKATE PARK!!
renton,kent built them for them so what can we do to get them to build us a PB TRACK????
i dont know how to go about getting this in the works ...i just thought of it....
what do you all think?? sounds good? sounds bad???
ok heres another one i emailed the mayor asking what is it illegal to right a pb when the city owns and rides them segways things that i have heard can go around 15MPH ???? lol i still havnt goten any new emails about that one LOL
anyways let me know what you think about the park idea
I watched PSSA (puget sound skatepark association) rally and organize and even march to town hall to save the ballard bowl, they did have some success, the bowl had to be removed, but... they got permision for a new one.
we might be able to get a "park" but in all likelyhood, its prolly not going to happen. theres just not enough of us out here to make it worth while for the city.
this_bud_4_you,
do you really think that harrasing the city, or making signs or anything like that is gonna help you, or anyone? you got a ticket for riding an unregisterd vehicle on the road, take it like a man. go ahead and try to fight the ticket in court its your right, but if you think making a big stink over it is gonna help, then your most likely wrong. telling the city that their segways should be banned, or telling them them off about their policies doesn't make you right, you just sound like any other person that lost his head over a speeding ticket or something. sit back, crack open a cold one and relax for a bit.
theres better ways of handling it.
Last edited by Black_Angel_Fettish : 10-01-2004 at 12:34 PM.
lol there is only 2 people on this board that knows me personaly.. first of all i know i messed up and im going to pay for it ..i agree with you 100% on everything you said .the only reason that im *****in is becouse i love to get people going on stuiped $hit ..and i think i got you going on this ..dont take me for real...im just messing with you ...i mean yeah im ****ed that i got a ticket and i would like it to be gone ...but do i think thats its going to be gone??? NOPE!
my biggest thing is whats right for one ...should be right for all. this might not be right but its what i think and alot of others out there ....you very rarley see a bikecycle getting pulled over "for playing in the street" or running red lights" lol
its true, bikes never get busted for ****, i ride my bike alot through town, and ****, I can try to get a ticket and do **** right in front of cops and I get away with it... its really not fair, but.. alot of life ain't fair.
man, i need me a pabst, going camping this weekend with a keg, so my bad mood is starting to swing upwards!
I ain't taking you to seriously in all honesty, I'm at work right now, so i got nothing better to do than argue just for the sake of arguing. and I do agree with you on stirring up sh1t, its a perfered past time of mine.
LOL sounds like me ..im just killing time right now at work also..see i make signs and my big printers are all printting right now so nothing for me to do exspet look at all the women going by and chating with you all. loli should of brought my pb to work the streets are getting read to close for octoberfest here in burien lol
I am a link into eight pocket bike riders in the Everett area - we are just now making a group purchase of eight identical, except for color, pocket bikes. 49cc reed valved Zakota ZR full fairing machines. Yeah, we're pocket bike beginners, but all of us ride street and/or dirt, several are accomplished street and/or dirt racers (full size). Looking forward to too much fun!
. You see? They target a popular thing like skateboarding and made it illegal to ride in certain areas, street racing, etc.
