Just an FYI, both AZPRA and SMRRC are using 17.5mm restrictors (it is starting to look like ******** will also use the 17.5 restrictors) and they are required for all 4.2 bikes to avoid the pipe issues. Just thought I would let you know, I have a ton of these available, don't know where you would get 19mm restrictors, you would have to have them made I guess.
Thanks Ted. It was a number I heard from someone else. I couldn't remember off the top of my head what your rules had listed for the restrictor. 17.5mm is good for me.
Mark, I really like what you have listed. I would like to use that in what I was working with. And no, just because Hunter stepped down, doesn't mean we forget what we were working with and have learned. I only wanted to give an option to get the rules set a month early. If it is not possible to do so, we shouldn't rush it.
Thanks Ted. It was a number I heard from someone else. I couldn't remember off the top of my head what your rules had listed for the restrictor. 17.5mm is good for me.
Mark, I really like what you have listed. I would like to use that in what I was working with. And no, just because Hunter stepped down, doesn't mean we forget what we were working with and have learned. I only wanted to give an option to get the rules set a month early. If it is not possible to do so, we shouldn't rush it.
Dave
Thank you too Ted for the correction...
Thank you Mark for the work you put into the rules and continue to do.
Regarding the protest section specifically "F", I think if three people come together to protest a bike and they are not required to put up a fee and then the bike is found to be legal that those three people should then have to pay a fee which is only customary to cover the costs that the other party will incur to either pay someone to put their bike back together or to do it on their own. There are some people now who could not accomplish this solely on their own and we may end up with new people signing up who would be in the same boat. Our local dealers might be sought out to complete the work and I would think they would be charging parts/labor, and not at a discounted rate because they feel bad or feel the need to help out. It is only right. It doesn't seem reasonable to not allow for that, especially since the OMRRA rules for the big bikes make that provision. I understand the thought behind the rule that if three other people suspect someone might be cheating, chances are they probably are, but that may not always be the case. I don't really see this being a rule that is used often, but something we might want to consider. Just a thought.
Well done once again on the rules. I think that Ted is right in regards as to us using a 17.5mm restrictor. I have few more questions tho...
1. Have we decided which classes will run together. Basically, I need to know as to see if and which classes Mario can run and on which machinery I will put him on...
2. Also, if the kids are allowed to run multiple classes as it looks like it, have we decided on a better points system than the one used last year? Just curious.
I agree with only the novice jr/sr cag class being able to wear jeans. There is no way to grow this sport when you have to invest all that money for gear up front. Its like down hill ski'ing. For the first time, you usually rent ski's, and not just go out and make that huge "gear" purchace. There must be a an affordable way for people to "try" the sport.
As far as restricting 4.2's...Why should we restrict kids that have riding experience? Would we just restric novice 4.2 riders? Mario, Justin and Bennie were restricted all year last year with OMRRA but proved safe riding at other events unrestricted? Exactly what age/riding ability would have to be restriced? I honestly dont get this?
QUOTE=NW Pocketbike]Mario, I agree. How about making that only apply to novices in the Cag classes (JR and SR). The idea was to open the door to as many new racers that we can find, with out some of the up front expense involved in trying our sport out.
Also I am still thinking of the 19mm restrictor for the "Junior Production" 4.2 based class. What does everyone think of this?
And there still needs to be the stuff for the race organization added (ie down and out rule, protests, and other stuff).
It would be possible to have the rules done and approved by this next Wednesday (next board meeting) if everyone agrees on the rules very soon. If you don't like what is here or you have something else in mind, we will stick with the original plan of having the meetings. I thought I should throw that out.
Question: would we be able to run any pipe with being restricted?
The thought process behind the 17.5mm restrictor is to create an equal playing field, whereby you don't have to be concerned with the pipe that is being run. It does not apply to the OPEN classes.
Hey Everyone! Sorry to be missing in action here! Dave & Mark, I really like what you both have come up regarding the rules. I also like Ted's idea with the 17.5 restrictor and we should consider the AZPRA rule set as a possible model. Kimberly, Good thought about the three people covering for the rebuild. that would premote a positive action on the OMRRA PB racing group to get the bike back together if the rider has not done anything wrong. I look forward to the next board meeting, and getting this process ratified and on to racing.
Thanks again to everyone in the OMRRA PB group.
It looks like the dates have a good chance of being approved. I will know more on Tuesday. The PKA board is working hard to get things done. The dates will go before the OMRRA board this next week for approval.
It also looks like we will be able to run every class seperatly at both PIR and MAC. This way everyone can run more than one class! And yes, there will be a new points system. The same formula that is on page 36 of the rule book. But we will use the same points for class points and overall points. It will be based on the number of entries and finishing position. Much simpler and no magic math. Both juniors and seniors will use the top 2 classes for points for the overall. The novice classes would not receive points though since it is a learning class and not a "competition" class.
Yes you would be able to run any production pipe with the 17.5mm restictor. The restrictor would only apply to "Junior Production" (4.2 bikes), the 6.2 and beond junior classes would not run restrictors.
As far as the protest stuff, I think it would be ok for 3 people to sign for a visual protest with out a fee, not a teardown protest. $150 for a teardown protest fee is a good idea, but OMRRA doesn't fine a violator with a monetary penalty, only a disqualifaction in the class protested. The violator must then prove to OMRRA that the volation has been corrected before being allowed to compete in that class with the same bike.
Once again, Way to go Dave! You Da Man! Pretty cool that the kids and the adults will be able to ride in multiple classes. Ok, I just want to make sure of a few more things so as not to misinterpret the rules...
So, for arguments sake... As I understand it, I can put little Mario on three different bikes to race with OMRA. One class would be on his DM 4.2 bike, the second class could be the CAG class, and the third class could be on a 6.2 or higher right? So, on the third class, I could put Mario on a 10hp bike? There is no HP restriction except for the porting and 17.5mm restrictor? or am I totally missing it? I'm just curious.
Also, I'm trying to understand the 10-12 yr old class and the reason for its age limit when kids like Mario and Benny are more than fast enough to race in such a class were it not for their age. Thanks in advance.
Yes Mario you are correct. Mario can run a Cag, a 4.2 with the 17.5mm restrictor, and a 6.2 air cooled (non restricted) bikes. A 6.2 air cooled production bike should put out no more than 7.5hp with a good pipe (ie Blata Elite Jr putting out 7.5hp). No porting, engine or reed block modifications, and 14mm single stage carb make hard to get any more hp out of it. If you can get more hp out of it and you don't violate the rules by engine mods it would be fine.
The idea for kids needing to be 10-12 was a liability factor. Kids of that age should in theory should heavy enough in weight to off set the power to weight ratio of a 10hp bike. Allowing little kids on a 10hp bike would be irresponsible of OMRRA. That's not saying that Mario Jr, Bennie, Cody or some of the other kids couldn't handle it, this would cover the kids that would be in over their head, making it even for all kids of that age. Also this class replaced the "Junior Supersport" of last year for the older kids getting ready to run with the seniors, kind of a prelude on what the bikes will be like out the complication of learning the bikes with the seniors on track. Kids 10-12 should be thinking of the senior classes just ahead of them. This gives them that place to get ready, but now they will able to continue compete in the lower classes with the right bike unlike last year. I hope this makes sense.
I have updated somethings with Marks sections and added some others. Note the 17.5 restrictor and novice Cag gear. Take a look and let me know what you think.
2005 OMRRA POCKETBIKE RULES (draft 2)
(1) Definitions:
A)OMRRA: Oregon Motorcycle Road Racing Association
B)Meet (event): A competitive activity for pocketbikes
C)Race Official: The person or persons who oversees the meet. The Race Official’s words are final.
D)Rider: Any person who has signed the required entry forms and competes in a meet.
E)Pocketbike (a.k.a. Minimoto): A miniature motorcycle with a rigid frame powered by a gasoline two-stroke engine. Engine configuration is to be a single cylinder with a pull starter and auto winding cord. The transmission is to be via a dry centrifugal clutch and a single gear.
F)cc: Cubic centimeters of engine displacement (i.e. Minimoto standard of 39.6cc’s).
G)Hp: Horsepower of the engine (measured at the rear wheel).
H)Manufacturer: The original equipment manufacture for the machines and not the distributor for the machines or constructor of a “one off”.
I)Minimoto shoes: Shoes that are specifically designed for minimoto racing that cover the top of the ankles and consisting of plastic ankle protection and plastic toe sliders.
J)Minimoto suit: Suits that are specifically designed for minimoto racing that are one piece “Cordura” and leather construction with armor in the shoulders, elbows, and knees.
K)Single stage carburetor: The standard carburetor is 14/14 SHA Dell'orto (may be another brand, but must be original equipment from the manufacture).
L) Stock: Original equipment and design as supplied from the manufacture.
(2) Rider Eligibility:
A) Riders must be at least 5 years old. All entrants in OMRRA events must hold a current competition license from a recognized motorcycle or pocketbike road racing body. An OMRRA pocketbike only license may be obtained in advance or when entering an event, by application for membership through officials in charge, who shall issue an official receipt and remit fees to the OMRRA treasurer.
● Riders must have a current big bike competition license and/or a pocketbike only competition license.
●Oregon residents (and Clark County, WA) must have an OMRRA membership card in addition to a competition license.
B) First time novice pocketbike racers will need to attend a novice pocketbike class before being issued a race license. The new rider will be issued a “novice” pocketbike only license. During the novice period, while practicing or competing on the track, the rider will be observed by race officials for safe control and operation of his/her pocketbike. If a race official deems a novice rider to be unsafe to themselves or other riders, the official can black flag that rider and suspend them from competing in the remainder of the day’s events. To graduate from a novice class and obtain an “expert” pocketbike only license, novice riders will have to complete 4 successful races and be able to run an average lap time of 115% of the regular class that they will graduate into. (still working the details of the class and % of lap time required)
C) Riders must have personal medical insurance coverage before being permitted to compete in an event. All riders must carry, in the left inside pocket of their racing suit, a completed copy of the OMRRA medical form. No rider under the age of 18 may compete without the written consent of a parent or guardian.
D) No rider may practice or compete without properly registering. The individual rider who plans to compete must complete and sign all the necessary forms required by OMRRA.
E) Prior to the commencement of racing, all riders in an OMRRA event must attend the MANDITORY riders meeting.
F) Radio communications either one way or two way with the rider and crew members are prohibited.
G) For Junior class riders that their birthday will fall between March and October, July 31st is the cut off date to determine what class they will start and finish the season in. (For example, if a 7 year old is going to turn 8 years old on June 19th they would start the season in Junior Supersport and stay in that class the entire season because their birthday is before July 31st. If the 7 year olds’ birthday is on August 6th they would start the season in Junior Supersport Limited and stay in that class all season.)
H) All riders must have a competition number assigned to them by OMRRA.
●Senior pocketbike numbers will start at 1P and end at 999P. Numbers 1P to 5P are reserved for last years top five (5) overall finisher to use for the current year if they choose. Their regular number will be reserved for one (1) year.
●Junior pocketbike numbers will start at 1X and end at 999X. Numbers 1X to 5X are reserved for last years top five (5) overall finisher to use for the current year if they choose. Their regular number will be reserved for one (1) year.
● The “P or X” in the number is for registration use only and is not to be used on the machine or on the helmet. (Refer to 3-E and 4-D for number use and placement)
(3) Rider Gear:
A) All riders must have appropriate safety equipment that has passed tech inspection and received an inspection sticker.
B) Spine protectors are required for all Senior racers ages 13 and up.
C) Motocross chest protectors are required for all Junior racers ages 5-12.
D) All Senior riders must wear OMRRA approved riding equipment, consisting of leather gloves, leather jacket, leather pants (all suits must be one-piece garments for racing. Separate jackets and pants are acceptable only if they zip together to make one piece of clothing), leather boots of a minimum height of eight (8) inches from the top of the sole, and overlapping the pants. Boots with metal toe sliders are not allowed. Bare skin or undergarments must not show. All helmets must be FULL FACE style, *** (Department of Transportation) BSI Blue Label or SNELL 95 or later approved, and also approved by the technical inspector.
● Minimoto shoes and suits are allowed in all pocketbike classes.
● Junior riders ages 5-12 may wear a *** FULL FACE youth sized street helmet, or a *** and SNELL 95 or later approved motocross full-face helmet with goggles. Motocross gloves with leather palms, motocross pants, and motocross jerseys with a heavy jacket or sweatshirt worn underneath. If motocross gear is used the rider must also wear plastic elbow and knee pads. High top shoes that cover the ankles are allowed.
●Novice riders, both Junior and Senior, running a Cag in a Novice class may wear blue jeans in good condition with no holes or rips, a heavy jacket good condition with no holes or rips, plastic elbow and knee pads, and high top shoes that cover the ankles.
E) Racing numbers must be a minimum height of 4 inches and clearly displayed on both sides of the rider’s helmet. The numbers must be of contrasting colors to the helmet. Helmet numbers and the front number plate on the machine will be used for the official scoring of events. (Refer to 4-D for machine numbers)
(4) General Machine Classification:
A) Only “Mini” or “Midi” moto race machines that conform to general pocketbike standards are allowed. Capacity limit is 40cc for all classes except for 50cc in the Senior GP Open and Cag classes.
B) All pocketbikes must be safety teched prior to practice or racing. Pocketbikes must have a tech sticker placed on the front fairing.
C) All machines must have either a full or semi (half) fairing fitted.
D) A front number plate is required on all machines. The front number plate must have a white background with black numbers. Front numbers must be at least 3.5” tall. Side number plates are optional, but if used must match the front number. Side numbers (preferably black or white) must be of contrasting colors to the background. (Refer to 3-E for official number scoring)
E) All frames, wheels, and swing arms must be free of cracks and kinks. All welds
must be sound.
F) Only pavement or road racing tires may be used. Excessively worn or unsafe
tires are not allowed.
G)Pocketbikes must have functional front and rear mechanical brakes.
H) All pocketbikes must be equipped with an engine kill switch on the handlebars clearly marked in red and accessible without removing hand from the handlebars.
I) All liquid cooled engines must use a non-lubricating coolant (water wetter or like
products).
J) All machines must have exhaust baffles fitted and working. Pocketbikes must conform to the maximum noise level that OMRRA has established of 103 dBA.
K) Race spark plugs and the use of different thickness base gaskets to set the squish are allowed in all classes. Ignition & timing may not be altered except in the Senior GP Open class.
L) All pocketbikes must be fitted with production components. This is defined as components available for purchase by the general public.
M) The use of single sided swing arms, suspension of any kind, hydraulic braking systems and other like items are strictly prohibited.
N) The following items are not allowed on any pocketbike: wheelie bars, battery, mirrors, turn signals, tail light, head light, kickstand, tool kit, radio communications.
O) Data acquisition devices are allowed on all bikes (i.e. tachometer, engine temperature sensor, lap timer).
P) Tires are to be a maximum of 6.5” inner diameter (rim size).
(5) Racing Classes:
A)Junior Production: Ages 5-12
All pocketbikes must be manufacture production specification. Limited to a stock air cooled 40cc engine with a 17.5mm exhaust restrictor plate installed in between the exhaust port of the cylinder and the exhaust manifold, a 3-port cylinder, single reed, and a 14mm single stage carburetor. The use of any production exhaust is allowed. Stock Blata 3.4 hp engines are allowed to use a stage 1 kit. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, exhaust, or wheels are allowed.
B)Junior GP: Ages 5-12
All pocketbikes must be manufacture production specification. Limited to a stock air cooled 40cc engine with a 3-port cylinder, single or dual reeds, and a 14mm single stage carburetor. The use of any production exhaust is allowed. Stock Blata 3.4 hp engines are allowed to use a stage 1 kit. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, exhaust, or wheels are allowed.
C)Junior GP Open: Ages 10-12
All pocketbikes must be a manufacture production specification. Engines are limited to a stock air or water cooled 40cc engine with 3-port cylinder, single or dual reeds, and a 14mm single stage carburetor. The use of any production exhaust is allowed. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, or exhaust are allowed.
D) Junior Cag: Ages 5-12
All pocketbikes must be manufacture production specification. Limited to a stock air cooled 50cc engine with a 3-port cylinder, single reed, and a 12mm single stage carburetor. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, exhaust, or wheels are allowed. All pocketbikes must be a Blata replica with 6.5” wheels and made in China to be eligible.
E) Junior Novice: Ages 5-12
All pocketbikes must be manufacture production specification. Limited to a stock air cooled 40cc engine with a 3-port cylinder, single or dual reeds, and a 14mm single stage carburetor. The use of any production exhaust is allowed. Stock Blata 3.4 hp engines are allowed to use a stage 1 kit. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, exhaust, or wheels are allowed. (refer to B-3 for novice rider eligibility)
F)Senior Production: Ages 13 and up
All pocketbikes must be manufacture production specification. Limited to a stock air cooled 40cc engine with a 3-port cylinder, single or dual reeds, and a 14mm single stage carburetor. The use of any production exhaust is allowed. Stock Blata 3.4 hp engines are allowed to use a stage 1 kit. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, exhaust, or wheels are allowed.
G)Senior Super Production: Ages 13 and up
All pocketbikes must be a manufacture production specification. Engines are limited to a stock air or water cooled 40cc with 3-port cylinder, single or dual reeds, and a 14mm single stage carburetor. The use of any production exhaust is allowed. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, or exhaust are allowed.
H)Senior GP Open: Ages 16 and up
All pocketbike chassis must be a manufacture production specification. Pocketbike engines may be modified, but limited to 50cc and a 21mm carburetor.
I) Senior Cag: Ages 13 and up
All pocketbikes must be manufacture production specification. Limited to a stock air cooled 50cc engine with a 3-port cylinder, single reed, and a 12mm single stage carburetor. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, exhaust, or wheels are allowed. All pocketbikes must be a Blata replica with 6.5” wheels and made in China to be eligible.
J) Senior Novice: Ages 13 and up
All pocketbikes must be a manufacture production specification. Engines are limited to a stock air or water cooled 40cc with 3-port cylinder, single or dual reeds, and a 14mm single stage carburetor. The use of any production exhaust is allowed. No modifications to the frame, bodywork, engine, reed block, carburetor, or exhaust are allowed. (refer to B-3 for novice rider eligibility)
(6) Race Organization:
A) There must be a minimum of 3 entries to constitute a class.
B) All current OMRRA flagging procedures will be followed.
C) At Portland International Raceway (PIR), riders will take 2 warm up laps around the track before re-staging at the start/finish line grid to await the starting flag. Riders will stage in a 3 wide staggered grid formation. Primary heat groups shall contain a maximum of 6 riders. If there are more than 6 riders, the amount of riders will be divided as equally as possible between the number of run groups required. The top finishers from each group meet in elimination racing to determine final ranking, with a maximum of 6 riders total (2 run group winners). If the number of participants exceeds 2 run groups, elimination’s will continue with groups always being divided as equally as possible, never to exceed 6 riders simultaneously in elimination’s, until a final race determines the top 3 podium for the day. The number of laps will be determined by the race director at the beginning of the day or adjusted during the course of the day due to time restraints.
D) At McMinnville, riders will take 1 warm up lap around the track before re-staging at the start/finish line grid to await the starting flag. The number of riders on the track at any one time, grid formation pattern, and the number of laps will be determined by the race director at the beginning of the day or adjusted during the course of the day due to time restraints. Entry for McMinnville is pre-registration only.
E) (paramedic section)
F) In the Junior Classes a rider’s bike may be re-started by corner workers or the starting flagger, so long as it does not distract from their primary duties. A stationary yellow flag must be displayed and the bike removed from the race track before the bike is re-started. The corner worker will signal to the rider when it is safe to re-enter the race track. Pit crew may enter the track to assist a racer only after permission is given by the race director or starter.
G) All riders are considered crashed and not allowed to reenter the race if his/her head hits the ground. If a racer “crashed” and re-enters the race, the Race Director will black flag the racer for the remainder of the race.
H) There will be an overall championship in the Junior classes and an overall championship in the Adult classes. The top five (5) overall finisher in both the Junior and Adult classes will receive overall championship trophies at the year end awards banquet.
I) Only racers holding an OMRRA racing license can accumulate season points.
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●The number of entries will be determined by the number of entries listed on the grid.
●In the case of a class with more than thirty (30) entries, points will be awarded down
to thirtieth (30th) place. All other finishers will receive 1 point.
J)Pocketbikes will use the following mathematical formula to determine class and overall points:
●1st Place Points = number of entries (maximum 30) +3
●2nd Place Points = number of entries (maximum 30)
●3-30th Place Points = number of entries (maximum 30) - finish position + 1
●all others Points = One (1) point
K) Overall Championship season points for both Junior and Senior riders will be awarded on the basis of not more than any two (2) classes a rider chooses to enter. If more than two classes are entered the two with the highest total points will be used to calculate overall season points.
(7) Protests:
A) Any competitor may enter a protest against another entered competitor in the event
in which both are entered, or against a decision made by the race organizers, to the referee:
Important: The purpose of these rules is to run an orderly, competitive, and fair
season, emphasizing safety of all involved. These rules are not intended to allow
one (1) competitor or team to defeat another with the rulebook rather than on the
racetrack or harass another in anonymity. All protests must be in writing and all
protest filers must be prepared to be identified to the protested person or team.
Protests deemed to be frivolous or found to involve something that would not
reasonably be expected to affect the actual race outcome or cause safety problems
may be denied, or assessed a fine or penalty. In the event that this rule, which
states the overall purpose and principles of this rulebook, somehow is interpreted
to conflict with another rule or statement of policy, this rule shall prevail in its
literal sense. The final decision on all protests lies with the OMRRA executive
board (see N-1).
B) All protests must be submitted in writing with the appropriate fee to the referee within
thirty (30) minutes following the posting of the results of the last heat of the day of the class
protested. The protesting competitor shall be the primary party responsible for identifying
the pit location of the protested party to the referee.
●All protests of race results must be submitted within 30 minutes following the posting
of the results of the last heat of the day.
●Any additional protest against finishing position or points must be submitted in writing
and received or postmarked within 7 days after the event.
●Any protest of results after the 30-minute deadline at the end of the race day will forfeit
any trophies or monies awarded.
●The written protest must contain the name of the racer and number of bike being protested, the name of the protester and the exact OMRRA rule that is in question of being violated. If any of the aforementioned procedures are not followed exactly, the protest will be deemed invalid and dismissed.
C) At no time shall a racer, team member, pit crew or family member address the Race Director/Pocketbike Referee concerning a racing dispute unless the Race Director/Pocketbike Referee asks you to do so. Engaging the Race Director/Pocketbike Referee about protest matters could be grounds for disqualification.
D At least 2 (two) OMRRA officials, who cannot be involved or related with the dispute, will preside over the inspection. The accused racer is always responsible to reassemble the engine weather or not the protest is valid or invalid. The only individuals allowed to be present at the inspection besides the inspectors are:
●One representative from the protester’s crew
●One representative from the accused racer’s crew
E The OMRRA executive board may register a protest against a rider(s) or machine(s), without
filing the normal fees, if the majority of the executive board present at the race track approves the
protest. If the protest is not upheld, the OMRRA board will follow the same procedure as an
individual as specified in Section (7-H) below. Machines that are obviously in noncompliance
with these rules shall be disqualified by the referee.
F A protest fee of $10.00 (except a “visual” protest, see (7-I)) must accompany all protests
involving the frame, wheels, brakes, tires, forks, bars, race conduct, etc., or race organization or
decision. If three (3) or more racers, not from the same race team, sign the protest within the proper time limit the protest fee of $10.00 will be waived.
●A protest fee of $25.00 will be assessed if the protest can be done by removing the exhaust manifold or carburetor to examine for port work or reeds with the motor remaining in the frame.
●A protest fee of $150.00 will be assessed for all protests involving engine out of frame teardown or disassembly.
●The following items – where applicable — will be inspected during an engine
teardown: bore and stroke, compression ratio, porting work, carburetors, and ignition. Any other illegal modifications discovered during teardown will count toward upholding protest.
●Following the submission of a written protest and the proper protest fee, the referee
will notify the rider and/or the owner of the machine in question. The rider, owner,
or pit crew member is then required to bring the machine under protest immediately
to the impound area designated by the referee.
●Failure to bring the machine to the impound area will automatically uphold the
protest and result in the loss of rewards, prizes, and points for the machine under
protest as well as forfeiture of the above in any other events entered by the rider or
owner that day.
G) If, after inspection, the protest is upheld, the rider will forfeit any awards, prizes, and
points earned by the machine that day in classes for which the bike was in violation and, at
the discretion of the referee, may forfeit ALL season points earned by the machine in the
class protested. The rider or owner must prove to the satisfaction of the referee that the
machine meets the rules of the class before it can be re-entered.
H) If the protest is upheld, the protest fee will be returned to the protesting party. If the
protest is not upheld, the protest fee will be given to the protested rider/owner.
●If a protest is not upheld and the material costs involved in reassembling a machine
exceed the protest fee, then OMRRA will reimburse the protested rider for the
difference in cost.
●OMRRA’s liability shall only extend to oil, oil seals and gaskets. Piston rings,
bearings, cost of honing cylinders are specifically not covered.
I) The organizers or any competitor may enter a “visual” protest at technical
inspection against another competitor in the class in which both are entered for obvious
violations of class eligibility rules. In this case there is no protest fee.
Sweet! Thanks for the clarification Dave. Glad to see that I'm not the only one up this late! Is it March yet? The rules look great man.
Cheers,
Mario
Good job to everyone (there are several people) who have provided valuable input and all the hours to bring this together. It is great to see it moving forward.
Good job to everyone (there are several people) who have provided valuable input and all the hours to bring this together. It is great to see it moving forward.
Or, depending on what direction a person be facing... backwards?
Aw well, many people did try *sigh*
Not quite sure what this last comment is all about Mark, so why don't you fill us in huh? Did we miss something?...
Just to get that out of the way before it perhaps becomes the next hidden issue.... yes I did lie when I said I didnt care. This all seems so silly and obvious, but anyway here goes....
We... and I mean ALL "we", as in "omrra racers, parents and board members", the fact that some chose not to participate in the process was theirs alone to make... have been working for months on a set of rules (and I'm not talking about the class-structure part here) based on what we have all learned over the last couple years and looking ahead to the future.
You ask "Did we miss something?" I don't know... but if you do a read between the version that "we" have been working on and this watered-down version, and you can't see lots of differences/ommisions than I dont think it would be time-worthy to try and spoon-feed you all the subtle yet important-for-smooth-racing-season ones that the "we" worked for all those month to identify and correct.
But if intelligent people like yourself don't consider that kinda "other stuff" as being missing than maybe it's really not important after all. Or looking at it in another postive way, with enough time and input from all of us, these rules (again not talking class structure here) could turn out to be at least as good as what "we" already had completed (fully admitting they not be perfect). Either way, I guess it's all good. Full speed ahead and **** the torpedos...
Last edited by AirRacer : 01-16-2005 at 09:37 PM.
Reason: Removed of some of my unfounded critisism
Mark, when I said "other stuff" I didn't mean it was important. Everything that has been worked on and talked about is important to the rules. I just simply didn't have the exact wording for those rules and couldn't remember all of the topics. By saying "other stuff", I was only implying that everyone's topics and wording still needed to be included. I guess I should have just asked for the other rules!
And as far as the "watered down version", I just cleaned up the language and placement. There were something's that I know for a fact would not have been approved by the board (i.e. imposing a fine on a racer that violated a rule and caused a protest. OMRRA doesn't fine for class rules violations, only disqualification from that class). Everything else was included to the extent that it could be or it was already a rule that didn't need more clarification.
The things that I have posted up here are NOT the official rules, just merely my thoughts as to what the rules should be. My thoughts are not the last word on the subject. I am only trying to help get things done.
Thanks Dave, We are sending off the formes to OMRRA this week. Keep up the great work and give me a call for anything that I can do. The CAG class is very important as I will start my 10 year old Nico in this class on a CAG until we can afford to get him a used 4.2 BMS.
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I have had severall calls concerning a class for modified CAG's as 95 percent of the China half and full fairing bikes are modified. I believe in a stock CAG class for the kids but also a modified class for the adults. Can we have a class for them to run as that is where the BIG amound of new racers that may step up to Euro bikes will come from.
Thanks
Mitch
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Last edited by NWminiMoto-M : 01-17-2005 at 12:35 AM.
I think it look good. Even I understand most of it. Thanks Kim for your help with interpretations! I'll get my four racers registerd tomorrow and looks like were gonna have a great race season! Thanks everyone for your hard work. Let me know if I can help out in ANY way!
Janette
Pretty cool that the kids and the adults will be able to ride in multiple classes. Ok, I just want to make sure of a few more things so as not to misinterpret the rules...
