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Old 10-21-2004   #1
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Air cooled B1, 35MPH stock, pictures


All right guys, I still have no idea how to post pictures so go in my gallery and check them and if you want to add them to this thread. The B1 air cooled is a cool Cag. It comes with a factory big bore kit, performance filter, and a better pipe. It is much larger, I took pictures against my HF Cag race bike and against an X1 so you can get the size difference. Check out the huge front rotor on this thing, it shaves off speed in a hurry and speed this bike has, we clocked the first one out of the box at 35mph with no adjustments and not much break in yet. The bike is heavier by about 15lbs but that is a guess. I still have not had much time to mess with it but it is very comfortable and even though the front end is "raked" it seems to handle extremely well, I will let you know just how well when I race it on the 31st. Check out the pics in my gallery and give me some of your feedback on the bike. To me it is the best AC Cag yet.

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I figured out how to get some pics so here they are, more in my gallery.
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schwwinnggg!!!
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not bad looking how much is the air-cooled?..color's
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Looks good! How much? $400 shipped and under is a deal. Anything over $400, forget it.
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Looks good! How much? $400 shipped and under is a deal. Anything over $400, forget it.
yeah after all it IS still just a cag. if it cant way undercut the price of the MUCH faster watercooled then its definatley not worth it.
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what is the tooth count on the pinion and sprocket?

That rear looks tiny.
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They are $399 in my store currently. I do not sell on the internet or ship bikes but it is a good deal for all my local customers. The front is a 6 tooth, rear is a 48 tooth, there is a sprocket in between, look at one of the close-ups in my gallery, it has a dual chain drive, I am not sure what the final ratio is after the two reductions yet. The bike is a nice alternative to the FF cags that I sell for $299 since it would take more money to get one of those to go that fast. I know there are some better deals on the internet but I run a store front and not some shipping company from a garage or rental storage unit. I think my store front prices are fair and you can ask many guys on this board that are local that I fix bikes, offer advice, and often give parts for free to anyone who races with us. I have a basement full of "internet scooters and pocket bikes" that are of very subpar quality but my bikes are much better although they are still Chinese I am pretty selective about which factories I choose.

I am not trying to sell these bikes to you guys unless you plan on walking into my store here in Michigan. I just posted this info for anyone who is shopping on Ebay or on the internet so that you can have real info about these bikes and make your decisions on real info and not some BS claims all over the place. They are a good buy for an AC Cag and a nice bike to have. Just wanted to share the knowledge so you can make an educated decision when comparing cags.
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Pretty cool bike but 400 bucks is to pricey in my opinion.
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6/48...how long did it take u to get to 35mph?
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Pretty cool bike but 400 bucks is to pricey in my opinion.
Yes well $400 shipped is a good deal. Basically like $350 + $50 to ship.
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it comes with a factory bbk so theres more torque to pull more gearing
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The gearing is not 6/48, there is a sprocket in the middle so it is a double gear reduction and I still have not figured it out what the actual final ratio is but it is close to stock cag 6/68 since there is reduction before it goes to the 48 with the dual chain set up, look at the close up pic of the chain guard in my gallery. It gets up to 35 rather quickly, it has not even been tuned or had much break in time, there is another couple of MPH in this thing and maybe even 40 with proper tuning because it pulls very hard. I don't understand how you guys think that a Lucky 7 at $300 is a good deal when this bike is much better quality and it spanks the 23mph speed of the lucky 7. You guys are too used to buying from these "wholesalers" on the internet and not retail in a store but chances are 99.99% will never be in my area looking to purchase one anyway. You can always go to Auto Zone right down the street from me and get a HF cag for $349 which is $50 more than what I sell FF cags for.
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its a cool looking bike, i just wish it was small like the hf cags.
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Yes well $400 shipped is a good deal. Basically like $350 + $50 to ship.
I'm not doubting the value of the bike or shipping just saying 400 bucks is to expensive in my opinion for a cag pocketbike.
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Looks to be a nice looking bike. Too bad its a 3 hour or more drive for me. Maybe when I get my taxes it would be worth the drive to check your shop out. I hate to wait for shipping and I dont know of any one in my area that is worth a dam. Do you have a web site?
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hey bart 400 is a good deal out of your store. Having a store front costs money and having someone local to buy from and go to for advice/trouble makes it more than worth that cost. I might want to buy some off you cause they are definately better than the normal cag. Good job
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Thanks Sonic, I knew a businessman would understand costs of a store front and maintaining a parts inventory versus selling out of the garage or public storage. Pocket bikes are new to me, I got my first one last year and that is when I started selling them, the majority of my business is still go-karts, dirt bikes, atvs etc.. I can not sell them like these internet guys, whatever junk you can get your hands on since you will never see the customer face to face. I sell you a bike and I make sure that I have the parts inventory to keep you going, I do not make spectacular claims about their reliability, I give you the truth and have refused to sell to some customers when I felt that they did not understand what is involved in keeping one going. I service all that I sell and have a good tech on hand in case I am ever stuck on something, look in my gallery, see all the parts bins that it takes to keep bikes going. If you call me 3 years from now I will still be around to get you the parts you need, that is how I have been doing business for a while and that is why we now have 3 stores. BTW I should start taking pictures of all the Ebay and internet bikes that come here for service, you guys would laugh your butts off if you saw some of this crap. I have seen: plastic chain guards (cracks the second you put your foot up) 43cc scooter engines in Cag frames, brake rotors and caliper that could not stop a RC car, and tons of other oversights that the guys who never take them out of the box will never know about.
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The gearing is not 6/48, there is a sprocket in the middle so it is a double gear reduction and I still have not figured it out what the actual final ratio is but it is close to stock cag 6/68 since there is reduction before it goes to the 48 with the dual chain set up, look at the close up pic of the chain guard in my gallery. It gets up to 35 rather quickly, it has not even been tuned or had much break in time, there is another couple of MPH in this thing and maybe even 40 with proper tuning because it pulls very hard. I don't understand how you guys think that a Lucky 7 at $300 is a good deal when this bike is much better quality and it spanks the 23mph speed of the lucky 7. You guys are too used to buying from these "wholesalers" on the internet and not retail in a store but chances are 99.99% will never be in my area looking to purchase one anyway. You can always go to Auto Zone right down the street from me and get a HF cag for $349 which is $50 more than what I sell FF cags for.

I am pretty sure I have a lucky 7, ive come to guess thats the term for the removable swingarm cag. and I got mine for 230 to my door and it doesnt go 23, it goes 31, and I weigh 170 lbs. and my friends bike goes 29 and mines faster which is how I know and his speed is for sure cuw we had the cop clock him. I could have had another bike like mine for about 180 TMD other day but wasnt on the auction in time.
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the ac b1 replica looks ten times better
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