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Old 04-15-2005   #1
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hydra w/c a/c


well my I assumed that the W/c hydra and the A/c hydra where the same engine but the water pump.

It seems that is not the case. its just a cag motor, hehe so i ordered the wrong reed spacers. It looks from pictures they are for a 4 petal reed kit.. so I guess I have to get one of them now.....

But with that huge block so the V shaped block clears.. doesn't that act as a reed spacer as well ? or you use the kit + the spacers?

I could have swore I read the A/c hydra was the same motor as the W/c hehe oh well live and learn

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The Sendai Tai Chi is the A/C version of the C1



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lol that sucks
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aye the BT hydra A/c is just a Cag motor but agian as said before in posts.. for WHY ever this batch of the 49cc factory BB engines freaking rape. im doing 40.7mph 100% stock. don't have a tach yet.. but my swchin speedo is pretty acurate. and I know for a fact, a slightly modded L7 was as if standing still. =P
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check your gearing! if it has a 7 tooth front and a 52 rear this would explain your hi top speed..... no special engine!!!
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aye the BT hydra A/c is just a Cag motor but agian as said before in posts.. for WHY ever this batch of the 49cc factory BB engines freaking rape. im doing 40.7mph 100% stock. don't have a tach yet.. but my swchin speedo is pretty acurate. and I know for a fact, a slightly modded L7 was as if standing still. =P
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they have a 6 front and 52 rear, no other Cag that I have tried accelarates with that gear or pulls it with my 250lbs on it but the AC B1 does no problem and accelarates like it had stock Cag gearing but has the top speed, madddd bottom end and great top end on those motors. Throwing a 68 or 72 on that bike makes it a wheelie monster.
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mine came with a 7-52 ,and it was like taking off in 5th gear in a car slipping the clutch for over a 100 yards before hooking up ...ya once it hooked up it would do near 40 but pointless for race use ..yes it had a big bore engine ...changed the back gear to a 74 which helped (make it go like other big bore stock engines ) raced it in stock and pulled a second place but not because it had more power than a normal cag ....i normally race mod cag but did not have my engine ready for that race ....i would love to see one of these other bikes with these claims in person ...just finding it hard to believe is all........
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than yours did not come from the same batch that we are talking about, there is one batch of those bikes that just has the killer motor in it, they come from one of the advertizers and pull like no other big bore Cag.
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mine came with a 7-52 ,and it was like taking off in 5th gear in a car slipping the clutch for over a 100 yards before hooking up ...ya once it hooked up it would do near 40 but pointless for race use ..yes it had a big bore engine ...changed the back gear to a 74 which helped (make it go like other big bore stock engines ) raced it in stock and pulled a second place but not because it had more power than a normal Cag ....i normally race mod Cag but did not have my engine ready for that race ....i would love to see one of these other bikes with these claims in person ...just finding it hard to believe is all........
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i'll keep my eye out for someone with a fast one from B.A's ........maybe i can give a review on one without kissing AZZ...i would tell it like it is no BS...
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thanks not putting no one person down just like to see it ,maybe i would have one for stock class and mod if the claim is true...
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than yours did not come from the same batch that we are talking about, there is one batch of those bikes that just has the killer motor in it, they come from one of the advertizers and pull like no other big bore Cag.
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I hope that wasn't a jab at me buddy! I felt I was unbiased and 100% honest in both my reviews. I plainly stated that the other headkits and even 4 petal reed setups were nicer looking than BAT's, as for performance I can't comment on anything other than what I have tested or seen perform on others bikes. So you must be talking about someone else kissing ***? And if not, then I guess you'll just be one of the ones I blast by on the track, my bike speaks for itself.



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i'll keep my eye out for someone with a fast one from B.A's ........maybe i can give a review on one without kissing AZZ...i would tell it like it is no BS...
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not pointing fingers.but if i was,you would put me in my place by "blasting by me"LOL!! that to funny. do you do all the reviews? , i have seen some biased reviews looking to get free parts or discounts. ..you are unclear did you do a review on this bike??did someone pull an engine apart and check it out?your taking about head kits ,do you feel guilty about something?? wow.......
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No I don't feel guilty about anything, you incinuated that someone is kissing badazztoyz "azz" and as far as I know (keep in mind I've been away from this site for a few months) I am the only who has done a review for any of Badazztoyz or Ip2 products. Did someone review this bike? I don't know, I'm confused, that's why I asked what you were talking about. Not trying to fight with you man, just wondering what you were refering to? As far as my bikes performance, you'd be suprised what you can do with a china bike when you engineer it correctly. Like I said it speaks for itself.
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No I don't feel guilty about anything, you incinuated that someone is kissing badazztoyz "azz" and as far as I know (keep in mind I've been away from this site for a few months) I am the only who has done a review for any of Badazztoyz or Ip2 products. Did someone review this bike? I don't know, I'm confused, that's why I asked what you were talking about. Not trying to fight with you man, just wondering what you were refering to? As far as my bikes performance, you'd be suprised what you can do with a china bike when you engineer it correctly. Like I said it speaks for itself.
well should i get a hydra a/c with the cag motor...or a cag..
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can you please get one from B.A.'s and then give use a report on how it performs.,at the very least it would perform like all the rest and you might need to change your gearing......or it could be the fastest stock cag (off the line and top speed)as claimed.........go for it.
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after buying one of these bikes "not from cris" but have been told it is from the same supplier (not saying i know for sure) by the guy that sponsers me. we picked up three bikes one was mine one is for one of the other racers and one was sold .all of them performed the same,most of it being that is was geared wrong which would smoke the clutch before it ingaged three different people.changed the gearing and at best would match other stock cags .so i here people saying how fast this bike is low and hi speed ..i'm really finding it hard to beleave., i would buy another to run in stock class if all this where true. at this point i would love to see these fast bikes (you would be suprised at how much engineering hours that i've but into these engines.....correctly!
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No I don't feel guilty about anything, you incinuated that someone is kissing badazztoyz "azz" and as far as I know (keep in mind I've been away from this site for a few months) I am the only who has done a review for any of Badazztoyz or Ip2 products. Did someone review this bike? I don't know, I'm confused, that's why I asked what you were talking about. Not trying to fight with you man, just wondering what you were refering to? As far as my bikes performance, you'd be suprised what you can do with a china bike when you engineer it correctly. Like I said it speaks for itself.
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after buying one of these bikes "not from cris" but have been told it is from the same supplier (not saying i know for sure) by the guy that sponsers me. we picked up three bikes one was mine one is for one of the other racers and one was sold .all of them performed the same,most of it being that is was geared wrong which would smoke the clutch before it ingaged three different people.changed the gearing and at best would match other stock cags .so i here people saying how fast this bike is low and hi speed ..i'm really finding it hard to beleave., i would buy another to run in stock class if all this where true. at this point i would love to see these fast bikes (you would be suprised at how much engineering hours that i've but into these engines.....correctly!
Anyone other than this guy have one of these new cags? Do they all come with the big bore?
Im thinking about buying one.
Hey badazztoyz guy,
can you ship these things to canada? how much?
there's a guy here that wants to sell me one for $420 us.total. Can you get one here cheaper? after duty and everything?
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Anyone other than this guy have one of these new cags? Do they all come with the big bore?
Im thinking about buying one.
Hey badazztoyz guy,
can you ship these things to canada? how much?
there's a guy here that wants to sell me one for $420 us.total. Can you get one here cheaper? after duty and everything?
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kyle is that how much he told you becasue i havent got a price yet..also he has not replyed to my emails about wich motor is in these things.I hope its got the bb motor!
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kyle is that how much he told you becasue i havent got a price yet..also he has not replyed to my emails about wich motor is in these things.I hope its got the bb motor!
If you have a hydra a/c post pics theres only a few in the gallery!
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kyle is that how much he told you becasue i havent got a price yet..also he has not replyed to my emails about wich motor is in these things.I hope its got the bb motor!
yup,
Thats total tax and shipping.
He didn't say if it had a big bore he said "true 49cc" so that's what im assuming. We've been trading e-mails all day. He said the track is up and running this weekend.
I think i might grab one of these. that's a pretty reasonable price. Plus my bike is jacked and i wanna get rid of it.
Did matt tell you xtreme motions wants to sponser us? haha. What do you think about that.
sorry to jack this thread by the way...
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