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Old 01-07-2005   #61
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what nitrous kit are you using?

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I Have Equiped My Bike With Nos Now When I Hit The Switch For The Juice It Bogs Down Is The Jet To Small Do I Need More Fuel Or Is There To Big Of A Shot Of Nos.
to much fuel reduce fuel very little until it wakes up if it was to much n2o then it would pop and crack an cut up may even blow
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If you are using juice on you r PB you cannot hit it until the power ban hits so it has enough fuel and spark to ignite it. PM MARKSN20BIKE he has a few bikes with juice and is a valuable resource.
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do you have some pics of your setup? my plastic hose was cheap made and broke off spraying air all over (i tested with a c02 catridge first). is there any special kind of hose i should use. and i can't find a place to tie down my trigger. i can't press the trigger and hold on with both hands at the same time.
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i now what people are talking about the nitrous express kits it is not worth spending 200 bucks on that nos kit you are better of buying a smaller nos kit with one time use nos bottles. i have used a 10 oz sneak pete on my bikes and blown 2 motors. the nitrous kit from nx puts out more nos to your motor then your carb can get gas to the motor. you need gas to help burn the nos. you willhave to use a jet fitting this fitting will control the amount of nos that will be put out the bad thing is that you cant realy find a jet fitting unless you get it custom$$$. you best bet is to go with the smaller nos kit. i have 2 of them that i got for like 50 bucks thay realy do work. its a dry nos system interms it means that the nos will spray threw your air filter and run threw your carb and mix with gas the safer way. i have sprayed more then 150 bottles in my bikes and still running strong. no need to run rich only thing you need is a hp air filter and stack. i get about 4-5 shots of nos from each bottel you realy do feel the nos kick in and you can her is when you hit the trigger.
dont give chitey advice about something you arent sure of, a dry setup is the least safe setup. that way you rely on stock fuel delivery to make up for the lean condition nitrous causes. the best would be a small fuel pump, and 2 silenoids(fuel and N20) and spraying both fuel and nitrous inot the manifold when wanting to spray and leave the stock fuel delivery alone. N20 releases oxygen molecules as its hits about 570 degrees, so on its way thorugh the carb it is cold and it isnt pulling in all the gas it needs like you think, so you need to be running RICH to be running correct when spraying. then when your not spraying youll have less performance because you are compensating for more oxygen that your now not getting.

adding a fuel pump and silinoids and all would be kind of worthless on a pocket bike, but I think nitrous on a PB is worthless period. if you hit top speed and then spray solely to gain MPH I feel sorry for you because you are gonna be revving too high on top of your already(most likely) lean condition and then your bikes gonna get tired quick. and already on a cag, it doesnt take very much ground to hit top speed, so using it to help acceleration really is a waste of the weight you added and the time and money spent.

maybe you could throw on a 7/60 gear setup and then on the track spray almost constantly coming out of every corner and youll smoke everyone on the straight away but youl have to swap bottles every lap, plus N20 probably isnt legal in a sanctioned race. and once again your engine isntmaking good numbers for too long before its worn.
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ok since you said that, anyone wanna buy my n02 kit? 7 small bottles included!
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ok, well, if you set your needle to be on the rich side where you still have decent performance but still running n the rich side, I would say it wouldnt be bad as long as you dont spray all the time, but I bet that would be hard to do, that is why I have not installed nitrous n anything ive ever owned, I dont have the self control to keep the switch off. my friend built a 350 for his firebird, thing hauled, but it wasnt enough I guess, he installed a NX kit I think, I cant remember if it was wet or dry, I thikn it was a wet setup. but he had his system armed almost all the time and hes always at WOT pulling form stops or out of corners so he was spraying alot. which led to him now building a NEW 400 big block for it. ok, back to what I was saying. a certain volume of N20 has about 2.3 times the amount of oxygen as the same volume of atmosphere. so if you did spray before the carb, and not into the intake manifold, the N20 would take up some of the volume of incoming air that use to be all atmoshpere. so there would be less oxygen in the incoming charge(N20 hasnt released it yet) but the same amount of flow thorugh the venturi so the same amount of fuel should be introduced. so if the N20 never released the oxygen it should be richer than before(which was already rich) and then in the combustion chamber more oxygen is released and with all the extra fuel that should be in there, it would get back to a proper A/F mixture, but depending on the size of the shot it might be lean, I couldnt calculate that if I wanted to. I think a good idea would be to get a temp guage installed, and just ride it aroud for a few days and monitor your normal operating temp, and then when you install the nitrous keeep an eye on your temps, they will probably go up a bit because your making more power, and from that comes heat, but if it spikes way higher than usual and seems dangerous levels of heat Id ditch the N20, if it stays alright temps then keep it installed.
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Is your friend using the 400 heads to make his 400ci? If so, then don`t let him use nos. He`ll blow that one quicker. Steam holes suck.
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I think hes gonna stay away from the juice on this one. not sure what heads hes using, im sure hes gonna bolt something aftermarket on there, no rebuilt stockers for his engine... but if I got parts at cost Id probably be like that too.
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I can hit my NOS at 5 to 10mph, it pops a wheelie.

What I'm wondering is if you have low throttle with minimal gas in the carb, does the rest of the carb fill with NOS and explode harder than if you were at full throttle leaving smaller volume space for the nitrous or would it be the same? Too scared to hit the nitrous at full throttle since I laid it down yesterday at 10mph when the bike went vertical on me.

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i now what people are talking about the nitrous express kits it is not worth spending 200 bucks on that nos kit you are better of buying a smaller nos kit with one time use nos bottles. i have used a 10 oz sneak pete on my bikes and blown 2 motors. the nitrous kit from nx puts out more nos to your motor then your carb can get gas to the motor. you need gas to help burn the nos. you willhave to use a jet fitting this fitting will control the amount of nos that will be put out the bad thing is that you cant realy find a jet fitting unless you get it custom$$$. you best bet is to go with the smaller nos kit. i have 2 of them that i got for like 50 bucks thay realy do work. its a dry nos system interms it means that the nos will spray threw your air filter and run threw your carb and mix with gas the safer way. i have sprayed more then 150 bottles in my bikes and still running strong. no need to run rich only thing you need is a hp air filter and stack. i get about 4-5 shots of nos from each bottel you realy do feel the nos kick in and you can her is when you hit the trigger.
How's your bike holding up? I've ran a few bottles through and got knocked on my *** last weekend. I was going about 10mph and hit the NOS when the bike got away from me.
I was wondering if using little throttle was filling the carb with more nitrous making it more reactive than if you were at full throttle and had less room in the carb due to occupying fuel. I'm too scared to try it at 35mph.
I was also wondering if it would be a good idea to put a pressure regulator/gauge on.
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Nitrous Oxide kit

ok....i was searching ebay and they got a NOS kit. is NOS for a A/C 47cc pokcet bike safe? or will i blow something up?
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if its the one with the cartridges then it's a piece of cr@p
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yea...thats it...w/ the lil lik CO2 bottle things
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how does that fuel line conversion kit work for you? is it good?
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?, no conversion it's just clear vinyl tubing hooked up from the fuel filter to the carb. That way I know if the fuel is flowing and theres not air trapped in the tubing.
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ok heres my experience with it. first off it was very easy to install and simple to use. once i went wot and hit the button it did a little boost but then it crapped out. it does make the engine rev higher if you hit it at an idle but i dont expect it to work unless u can retard ur engine.
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hmmm......ill check it out, i want it for looks more then use
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I've been running the whippet NOS for a few weeks now and it really works, too well. It does a wheelie everytime and two weeks ago it knocked me on my *** after the bike went vertical going end over end down the track leaving a nice trail of gas for me to slide on. I've since bought knee and elbow pads, I know I should have had them earlier, luckily I had a helmet and leathers on. I also installed a pressure regulator and gauge on the line. Now I run it at 1/4 of what it originally was which is now between 15-20psi. Last weekend I dragged another bike, I had him out of the whole and half way down the track he passed me and I hit the nitrous and flew by him finishing first. I don't know if it will ruin the engine but they aren't that spendy anyways so it's probably the only time in my life I'll be able to, "hit the NOS". I also don't know how safe it is, I'm sure something could go wrong but, we don't ride pocket rockets because they're "safe" do we?
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helll noooo....ima have to get me sum
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