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Old 01-20-2005   #1
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Stupid Chain - Problem After Problem.. ARGGHH


Hi, its me again, with yet another problem with my new cag. It seems that whenever one problem is fixed, another one emerges.

Basically, I was driving the bike, and I heard some clicking from the chain, and a few minutes later the wheel bearing tore apart. I thought it was no big deal, so I bougght a new wheel bearing and fitted it all back together. The problem is however, that you know there is two rubber bits that join onto the fram and the chain cover (on the top one the chain rests on it, and at the bottom it touches the top part of the chain, well anyway, at the bottom, the chain isnt anywhere near it, and it seems to rub on the side of it and shreds the rubber off. It has been like that since I recieved the bike last week. Also, when the wheel spins, the chain makes a clicking noise on the cog on the wheel. If you look at the chain, it also looks kind of slanted and not totally straight. I have tried moving the wheel around with the nuts, but I cant seem to figure it out.

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I had to shim mine out with a couple washers so the roller lined up with the chain.
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Hi, what does shim mean. Also, where did you put the washers.

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shim basically means spacer. take the roller off and put washers between the roller and the chain gaurd and bolt it back on the the washers will space it out to where it needs to be.
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Thanks, but what about the clicking chain on the cog?

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shim basically means spacer. take the roller off and put washers between the roller and the chain gaurd and bolt it back on the the washers will space it out to where it needs to be.
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sprocket alignment

[quote=joshiestevens]Hi, its me again, with yet another problem with my new cag. It seems that whenever one problem is fixed, another one emerges.

Basically, I was driving the bike, and I heard some clicking from the chain, and a few minutes later the wheel bearing tore apart. I thought it was no big deal, so I bougght a new wheel bearing and fitted it all back together. The problem is however, that you know there is two rubber bits that join onto the fram and the chain cover (on the top one the chain rests on it, and at the bottom it touches the top part of the chain, well anyway, at the bottom, the chain isnt anywhere near it, and it seems to rub on the side of it and shreds the rubber off. It has been like that since I recieved the bike last week. Also, when the wheel spins, the chain makes a clicking noise on the cog on the wheel. If you look at the chain, it also looks kind of slanted and not totally straight. I have tried moving the wheel around with the nuts, but I cant seem to figure it out. make shure you sprockets line up strait you may have to loosen your motor mounts and moove the engine over some it doesnt seem that thy take much time putting these together
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have you taken the chain off of the pinion and seen what it looks like? did it loo very worn, or worn odd like one seides chewed to **** and the others fine?
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I also had the same problem with a cag I recently purchased. As it turned out one of the spacers on the right side of the wheel wasn't wide enough to fill the gap between the caliper bracket and the swingarm. It appeared the swingarm was 'sandwiching' the wheel unevenly. It made the sprocket want to 'bite' into the chain. I simply made a new spacer out of some scrap pipe I had laying around, and it worked like a charm. The main sprocket and pinion are aligned, and it eliminated the binding issues on the sprocket and on the brake disk/caliper. My chain tension still isn't perfectly consistent, but thats expected. It takes some tinkering, but its worth the effort. Good luck

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Talking same problem

i had this same problem with my bike. I spent a couple of hours just inspecting and measuring and found the problem to be that the wheel was cocked sideways alittle. The axle wouldn't slide up far enough in the slot in the frame on the right side. To fix this i just took a dremel tool and ground it out alittle to help stragiten the wheel out.
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I have lined the wheel up, thats the thing. Also, If I lok behind the bike perpendicular to the chain, it looks like the chain is bending off to the left slightly when it comes out of the top of the wheel cog.

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Also, I cant move the rubber thing over with washers because it takes up the whole gap. There is no space for anything else.
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Also, I cant move the rubber thing over with washers because it takes up the whole gap. There is no space for anything else.
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I was just trying to fix it, and I noticed something. The two metal washes that go either side of the wheel, the ones that are about 2cm long. I noticed that they were the wrong way round. The bigger one was on the side of the chain, and the smaller one on the brakes. I switched them round, and this has nearly sorted the chain moving in the right place underneath that rubber thing. The problem though is that the chain still clicks. I turned the wheel slowly with my hand, and at the part it clicks a few times, the wheel gets harder to turn, and then when it stops clicking it goes normal.


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my wheel does that too, more tension at a certain point in the back tires revolution. not sure what to do cuz the wheel bearing is a good fit in the center hole of the sprocket, so you cant get the sprocket centered perfectly. Ive just come to deal with it.
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yeah that sounds like your sprocket isn't centered, mark the sprocket where it gets tight, then loosen and adjust the sprocket
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I cant center mine because the wheel bearing sits outside the rim a bit, and the sprocket sits on the wheel over the bearing and the bearings the same O.D. as the I.D. of the sprockets center hole.
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thats when I'd bust out the dremel and enlarge that hole alittle bit
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dont have a dremel, have access to one, and I probably will go use it before I permanently fix the sprocket to the wheel, gotta decide which one Im gonna run though, the 60T or the 68T. then Ill screw with fixing it and keeping it on the wheel for good.

Im waiting til I can get a bunch of guys with their stock cags to come out to the school so I can see which is better. I cant remember how quick and how fast my cag was stock so I cant compare if the 60T can still pull like stock with the mods, top speed I KNOW is higher but if I cant outpull them as well Ill run stock gearing.
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Hey, thanks for the reply. I dont want to go fiddling with the bike. I just want todrive it, and enjoy it. Do you think I should worry about it, or leave it alone. If I leave it alone do you think it will be fine or not?


Also, does anyone have an answer to my engine cutting out post?

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take the carb apart and blow out the passages, same with petcock, that solved my problem.

and about my rear sprocket, ive had it like that for a long timew, as long as it doesnt get too loose or too tight anywhehere in the revolution of the wheel it isnt a great concern but Ill still fix mine eventually.
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