Tires

hey are the street threaded tires any good, i mean im jus using slicks and im sure a lot of us are but what about the street tires? think there worth it, supposed to be better on turns but not to sure, what ya think

to be honest stay with the slicks unless your riding in the rain treaded tires will actually give you less traction when its dry.if your looking for somthing with more grip get a different compound slick(T4,etc)..they can be pretty pricey though.

ah thats cool, yea idk i jus read that they helped in turns and stuff but wasnt to sure, i havent heard anyone with them, but i think ive seen em on the cat eyes, however i think there bad at handeling so i was confused

those cag tires are worthless in turns, i lowsided so many times with them until i moved up to a T-4 tire!

T41 front / T4 rear (unless you don't mind buying a new T41 rear every few hours)

I'm not a fan of the treaded tires either. I like the slicks. Only thing is they wear out to fast. Once me and my friends wear the left side out we have to turn around and race around to the right.

Are you talking about the slicks that come on the Cags? Why are they so bad. Also about how much are the T-4 tires. Do they last very long when racing?

I have those tires on my hf cag right now, they are what came with it. They have little slots that go about half way in towards the center. They arent bad, i do burnouts all the time, and they hold up real well. I have no other real experience on other tirs, other than underinflated slicks. I do notice that the tires I have slip when leaning hard, and its pretty unpredictable. But thats whats fun about riding, the risks. Hehe

i am in need of some new tires too. where do you get the t4 or t41 tires?

so this is the scoop on tires.

the chinese made tires are a very hard compound, meaning they heat up fast (aren't slippery when cold) but give way quickly. They don't stick as well when cornering as a softer tire, meaning they slide out fairly easily. They will last the longest because they are hard.

For aftermarket tires, you be able to ride significantly faster without sliding out because racing slicks provide much more traction before sliding out. What's more, the softer the compound, the more forgiving they will be by sliding just a little before giving, so that you can feel them going and back off just a hair so you don't fully slide out. However, the softer the compound, the shorter they will last, with the softest only lasting 8 to 12 hours on a rear tire. The hardest aftermarket race slick will be softer than a stock Cag tire. The tire break down is like this:

PMT B compound, hardest
PMT T4, medium
PMT T41, softest

PMT rains, very soft and with grooved tread for being ridden in the rain (in the dry they will not last long at all)

PMT tires are probably the most common on the racing circuit. They are a harder tire overall than Sava and last a long time. The profile is relatively flat, so that turn in is slow, but if you get to the edge of the tire it starts to get pretty slippery.
Sava tires on the other hand are softer and don't last as long. They also have a rounder profile, so turn in is faster. Tire selection is usually dictated by the climate and pavement condition. Hot climates prefer PMTs and colder climates seem to like the Savas.

Sava MC, hardest
Sava MB, medium
Sava MA, super soft

Sava tires are supposed to be the equivalent compound to the PMTs, but the MC is softer than a PMT B, almost a T4. Sava also makes reinforced sidewall tires for those who weigh 200 pounds or more. they are the MRC, MRB and MRA. Cost for the Savas is in the range of $115 to $135 a set. The PMT tires range from $135 to $160.

I don't know for sure about availability in the states, but PMT do an 'R' compound in the UK which is even softer than the T41 (lasts about 3 hours!).

SO WHERE CAN I GET THESE TIRES?

Try one of the links on this site to any dealer that sells Euro pocketbikes, any pocketbike dealer should stock them.

Can someone recommend decent and cheap tires for those of us with stock or lightly modded Cags? It's just silly to spend $150 on tires for a $250 bike. Consider that good tires for a $10,000 sportbike will only run you around $300/set.

I just wanted to point out that if you are not racing and just want a set of replacement tires, you can get a set of treaded tires on flea bay for about $40. These are fine for just zipping around.

there isn't anything in between the cheap cag tires and a set of the most affordable Savas at about $110 or so a set. Even though I am a dealer for them, I have not paid for advertising here, so I must forward you to Tom or Bill at Advanced Motosports;
www.dcminimoto.com
703.246.9003

call around some of the minimoto teams and shops, usually someone has a decent set of used tires

does tread or slick tires work better

does anyone know if someone makes slicks for the gs57 model fourstroke pocket bikes with 10 inch roms

10 inch rims