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Old 08-12-2005   #61
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be carfull there bud you have a advantage in the striaght line and thats it a stock cag with a good rider would eat you alive on the track and dont get mad about this i have the same bike in 2 and 4 stroke and honestly my two stroke is alomost as fast as the four but its not stock also i race these bikes and uless you have modded shiffter and pegs i could walk around a corner faster than your x7
yup...i race in sacramento and a couple places in the bay. my 110cc x7 is the fastest and quickest bike i ever owned...and i walk on x-1/2 x6 x12 all day! one of the reasons your 2stroke x-7 is as fast as your 4 stroke is cause its way lighter and that helps,they have the same tranny so they wind out to the same speed but the bigger motor obviously gets there faster even if its not by much! also like you said you have hop ups on your 2stroke...get a mikuni carb (22mm), hitman cdi, ngk plug and wire, kitaco race coil, fram fuel filter, uni intake, uni crankcase breather kit, fuel breather kit, tnez racing intake, ngk plug, a 17tooth counter sprocket, and i use all royal purple fluids...then your 4stroke will hit 55/57 like mine! the only reason why the pegs suck is cuz they are too long, NOT TOO LOW! i upgraded mine, but you can just cut them in half...and my shifter dosnt rub... so whats wrong with my bike??? find someone in san jose california for me please that wants too race their mini against my x7! your bikes are kool, just uncapable! plus we have enough exhaust pressure to turbo charge...they only get better!
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yup...i race in sacramento and a couple places in the bay. my 110cc x7 is the fastest and quickest bike i ever owned...and i walk on x-1/2 x6 x12 all day! one of the reasons your 2stroke x-7 is as fast as your 4 stroke is cause its way lighter and that helps,they have the same tranny so they wind out to the same speed but the bigger motor obviously gets there faster even if its not by much! also like you said you have hop ups on your 2stroke...get a mikuni carb (22mm), hitman cdi, ngk plug and wire, kitaco race coil, fram fuel filter, uni intake, uni crankcase breather kit, fuel breather kit, tnez racing intake, ngk plug, a 17tooth counter sprocket, and i use all royal purple fluids...then your 4stroke will hit 55/57 like mine! the only reason why the pegs suck is cuz they are too long, NOT TOO LOW! i upgraded mine, but you can just cut them in half...and my shifter dosnt rub... so whats wrong with my bike??? find someone in san jose california for me please that wants too race their mini against my x7! your bikes are kool, just uncapable! plus we have enough exhaust pressure to turbo charge...they only get better!
first of all with those mods you not that fast my bone stock four stroke is at 49mph and thats radar not some other crap also i know that e13wrs would spank you because i have raced one and thats what happend to me so like i said i know your fast in the straight line but im willing to put money on it that a stock cag would kill you on a tecnical track bare in mind the guy you where racing knew how to ride
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first of all with those mods you not that fast my bone stock four stroke is at 49mph and thats radar not some other crap.
-first off, if your bone stock 4 stroke goes 49 from a "real" radar...why dont you believe me?i can hit 55mph with hop ups, and i am! but that might be cuz its a "fake" radar??? besides your stock x7 dosnt go 49 mph( their motor cant rev that high stock!) the motor is really 107cc not 110 (rounded up, but you know that cuz you know all) anyways,the 4 speed tranny is only capable of 10,000 rpm max (if it dosnt blow) and even with a 150cc motor its not capable of speeds over 60mph...thats why i doubt ill hit that when im done modding. no matter what my motor is bigger...so if i drop my gear ratio in a turn i have more power and higher rpms....I GO FASTER! how would a mini take me on a turn? thats like racing 80's with 125's...there is no competition, sooner or later you will get passed then beat. no matter what, by the end of the race i can guarantee ill cross the checkered flag before you even see it! winning is winning by an inch, or by a yard. your mini against my mid, its just not capable of doing that!
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-first off, if your bone stock 4 stroke goes 49 from a "real" radar...why dont you believe me?i can hit 55mph with hop ups, and i am! but that might be cuz its a "fake" radar??? besides your stock x7 dosnt go 49 mph( their motor cant rev that high stock!) the motor is really 107cc not 110 (rounded up, but you know that cuz you know all) anyways,the 4 speed tranny is only capable of 10,000 rpm max (if it dosnt blow) and even with a 150cc motor its not capable of speeds over 60mph...thats why i doubt ill hit that when im done modding. no matter what my motor is bigger...so if i drop my gear ratio in a turn i have more power and higher rpms....I GO FASTER! how would a mini take me on a turn? thats like racing 80's with 125's...there is no competition, sooner or later you will get passed then beat. no matter what, by the end of the race i can guarantee ill cross the checkered flag before you even see it! winning is winning by an inch, or by a yard. your mini against my mid, its just not capable of doing that!
you need to listen im saying with your mods your bike should go faster than that and comparing 80 and 125 is correct but your bike and a cag in the corner is like comparing school bus and miata sure your bike is fast like i said i own two mids but i know they dont corner as well as my cag
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i was wondering what you meant, but i dont think i should be faster,i thought i was fast enough! some people say that their x7 110cc only went 35...is yours broken in? most people ive talked to, they go aroun 50/55 with mods, i have almost every engine component installed. did you remove your govenors???if your bike goes 49 stock,then once you get mods youll be flying! i was confused cause you said you went 49 stock but you were saying i cant beat a mini... now i understand what you meant but i was saying overall...i would take it in a race!
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i was wondering what you meant, but i dont think i should be faster,i thought i was fast enough! some people say that their x7 110cc only went 35...is yours broken in? most people ive talked to, they go aroun 50/55 with mods, i have almost every engine component installed. did you remove your govenors???if your bike goes 49 stock,then once you get mods youll be flying! i was confused cause you said you went 49 stock but you were saying i cant beat a mini... now i understand what you meant but i was saying overall...i would take it in a race!
im glad you understand now im not trying to start anything im just telling you from expience that a fast bike dont always win when you get on a small track against a cag you will see what im talking about because you going to need all the power you got because when you slow down in the corner the cag is going to fly past you and you will have to play catch up in every corner and if you dont belive me go race one and let know how you feel when you get spanked
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i kill 4 strokes on my track. we have a bunch of em down here, modded up the waazoo, but it just buys them a little more time. mine is modded too of course, but i'm just backing you up about the cag. the Banshee is faster than a cag, so it's not the same comparison, but anyway. i still have yet to get passed by a 4 stroke. my biggest problem is figuring out which way to go around them. they're cool bikes, don't get me wrong. but you can't argue with physics. the smaller the bike = tighter turning radius/lighter/etc. now it's case closed!

PS i will say this.. they're much more comfortable than a pb!

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i dont really expect to race you guys...its like hondas and v8's. no matter what it all depends on the tuner! honestly if we both had the same exact parts...of course i would beat you, i have a bigger engine with a greater displacement! thats all im saying.and yes i will still beat you ESPECIALLY now that i have my 17t and 42t sprockets...i hit 55 easily!!! i know for sure the average "cag" hell, even a suped one dosnt stand a chance! i didnt mean to offend you...i was just backing the "made in china" bikes! but...botton line, i will still BEAT you! ;-)
ok elier is back there been a bull running around LEAVING TRAIL'S OF STINK
and like fmk78 my friend i race with at the track my polini rep with mod's will
wipe you and who faster than me is a blata w13r don't even argue about this
we wip them ALL THE TIME YES 4 STROKE MODDED TO THE BONE EVEN 120CC
4 SPEED YES WITH CAM'S AND GEAR'S they get out the corners good and if you race a cag your just abusing the fact's that cag's don't have the motor you have come on 49cc copared
to 110 cc but i will race you anytime with my polini rep and that's china made
OR MABE IT'S SUCH A BIG CLAM BECAUSE I LIVE IN MIAMI AND YOUR IN CALI?
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ok the silver bike yes the cag h/f i bet will give you a run for your money
on a tech track and the lucky 7 and the polini rep just ask anyone i race with
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hmm.. san jose? i know a person that WILL stomp you on his 'mini' and his mid! btw..he has a GRC GP open 50cc monster! which puts out around 14hp and the other..umm..a 70cc X...whatever u call it.

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yup...i race in sacramento and a couple places in the bay. my 110cc x7 is the fastest and quickest bike i ever owned...and i walk on x-1/2 x6 x12 all day! one of the reasons your 2stroke x-7 is as fast as your 4 stroke is cause its way lighter and that helps,they have the same tranny so they wind out to the same speed but the bigger motor obviously gets there faster even if its not by much! also like you said you have hop ups on your 2stroke...get a mikuni carb (22mm), hitman cdi, ngk plug and wire, kitaco race coil, fram fuel filter, uni intake, uni crankcase breather kit, fuel breather kit, tnez racing intake, ngk plug, a 17tooth counter sprocket, and i use all royal purple fluids...then your 4stroke will hit 55/57 like mine! the only reason why the pegs suck is cuz they are too long, NOT TOO LOW! i upgraded mine, but you can just cut them in half...and my shifter dosnt rub... so whats wrong with my bike??? find someone in san jose california for me please that wants too race their mini against my x7! your bikes are kool, just uncapable! plus we have enough exhaust pressure to turbo charge...they only get better!
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cag[/url] racer]hmm.. san jose? i know a person that WILL stomp you on his 'mini' and his mid! btw..he has a GRC GP open 50cc monster! which puts out around 14hp and the other..umm..a 70cc X...whatever u call it.
PLEASE GO RACE HIM
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do it man , someone's got to stop bragging after a race !
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i kill 4 strokes on my track. we have a bunch of em down here, modded up the waazoo, but it just buys them a little more time. mine is modded too of course, but i'm just backing you up about the cag. the Banshee is faster than a cag, so it's not the same comparison, but anyway. i still have yet to get passed by a 4 stroke. my biggest problem is figuring out which way to go around them. they're cool bikes, don't get me wrong. but you can't argue with physics. the smaller the bike = tighter turning radius/lighter/etc. now it's case closed!

PS i will say this.. they're much more comfortable than a pb!
... i understand what you are saying, but that can only go so far, if they have the same motor maybe, but it has more power to push more weight! would a pocketbike eat a hayabusa?...it should by alot, the pb is ALOT smaller, lighter etc. ;-)
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Have had my Banshee at 83 mph, but it did not happende in a few seconds.

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if you did that speed you broke the record
and i would like to know what gear you were running
at what rpm are you sure it's not kilometer
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cag[/url] racer]hmm.. san jose? i know a person that WILL stomp you on his 'mini' and his mid! btw..he has a GRC GP open 50cc monster! which puts out around 14hp and the other..umm..a 70cc X...whatever u call it.
70cc...ha that still wont hang! think about it...110cc x7, with a 150cc bored honda 110 head, waterpump w/ ducati radiator, crf125 crankshaft, custom valves and retainers, extrude honed intake/exhaust ports...that alone will smoke y'all, and i havnt even gone into gearing, carbs,intake etc.
im not flaming or dissing! if you guys wanna believe you can beat me, go ahead. you all remind me of honda owners when a vette pulls up! bla bla bla...sure, you can "beat" me!
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if you did that speed you broke the record
and i would like to know what gear you were running
at what rpm are you sure it's not kilometer
...thank you, sometimes you mini owners can get pretty cocky! at least make it seem somewhat true/believable! and my moped w/ a hayabusa motor runs 3 sec 1/4 miles!!!
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if you did that speed you broke the record
and i would like to know what gear you were running
at what rpm are you sure it's not kilometer
The gearing is 9/55 I am not sure of the rpm, but it did not make it to the full rpm. Yes it was in mph, and it was shaking like hell.

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ok elier is back there been a bull running around LEAVING TRAIL'S OF STINK
and like fmk78 my friend i race with at the track my polini rep with mod's will
wipe you and who faster than me is a blata w13r don't even argue about this
we wip them ALL THE TIME YES 4 STROKE MODDED TO THE BONE EVEN 120CC
4 SPEED YES WITH CAM'S AND GEAR'S they get out the corners good and if you race a cag your just abusing the fact's that cag's don't have the motor you have come on 49cc copared
to 110 cc but i will race you anytime with my polini rep and that's china made
OR MABE IT'S SUCH A BIG CLAM BECAUSE I LIVE IN MIAMI AND YOUR IN CALI?
or maybe YOU are making such a big claim since you live in miami and im in cali! dont say you would if you CANT! your wasting you time, i just want to find a cag or whatever that can beat me in a race! not brag about how they pull me in the turn...bottom line, there can only be one winner in a race, this isnt figure skating ladies, and quit w/ the bit*hing already, i dont want to hear it if i wont see it!
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