Hi, I have had to swap the break levers around on both of my sample Sho's to get any kind of steering lock and it still isn't perfect. I can now turn the bars right without a problem but they still foul on the pipe that runs from the coolant bottle and on the coolant bottle itself when turning left.
I assume everyone has done the same (swapping the levers) as me or has anyone relocated the coolant bottle? if so, how?
Hi, I have had to swap the break levers around on both of my sample Sho's to get any kind of steering lock and it still isn't perfect. I can now turn the bars right without a problem but they still foul on the pipe that runs from the coolant bottle and on the coolant bottle itself when turning left.
I assume everyone has done the same (swapping the levers) as me or has anyone relocated the coolant bottle? if so, how?
Thanks
Are you certain that you have a Banshee and not a C1? The overflow tank on the Banshee is way forward and down from the handlebars, well out of distance while turning. You can re-route the coolant hose from the tank but you will likely have to fashion an "L" shaped hose adapter.
Last edited by scooterteq : 01-24-2005 at 10:49 AM.
Yah, I saw this issue on a Banshee Sho @ the weekend. The left hand side front fork fouls the coolant hose and prevents much steering movement to the left. And how are you comfortable with the handlebars in the position that they are in the the above pictures??? On a fullsize bike maybe, but not on a Mini Moto, it would be tank-slapper city here we come!
And how are you comfortable with the handlebars in the position that they are in the the above pictures??? On a fullsize bike maybe, but not on a Mini Moto, it would be tank-slapper city here we come!
????Don't u have an C1? ur bars are same!! I thought the bars on sho was like FF cag's!?
Try putting your handlebars straight or a little off and you will see what I mean. They are sho's as only 1 factory makes them and I bought them direct.
In all of your photos the handle bars are at a very strange angle when they should ideally be almost straight.
Yep, Demtoofast witnessed this design fault on my bikes this weekend
By the way, Its not the bars that foul it is the brake levers and the only way to get any loc was swap the levers around and bend the bars more than I would like.
By the way, Its not the bars that foul it is the brake levers and the only way to get any loc was swap the levers around and bend the bars more than I would like.
I have the same problem, in his pix it looks like his coolant bottle is in a different place, looks alot lower. The ends of my break cables hit the bottle when i turn left, i was thinkin about movin the coolant bottle next to the gas tank.
As the writer George Bernard Shaw said, the British and the Americans are two great peoples divided by a common language. In this case we seem to be almost talking about two different bikes and there may be a reason for this. It has become common practice now to refer to the GRC styled w/c pb as the SHO. To be blunt about it, no matter what factory it comes from unless it has a Banshee logo and serial number beginning with LSTSH050 it is not an SHO. The Scooterteq Banshee SHO's are factory modified to specs which we provide and these are changed as we encounter problems which may arise from time to time. Our changes are proprietary, meaning that we furnish the factory with ACAD engineering documents for our use only. We prefer to have most of our mods done at the factory however we will also release a series of special racing upgrades including a redesigned pipe, header, custom silencer and revolutionary clutch for use the SHO.
The first picture below shows the location of the overflow bottle on the original taken at just about eye level. It is well out of range of the handlebars when they are adujusted to the full top location. The pictures that follow it show where we have now moved the hose to the outside of the left fork to prevent fouling during left turns. This is a simple relocation and can be done in the field by adding a simple "L" shaped adapter at the tank.
We want to add a word of caution: the SHO engine is very powerful. With the new pipe it is already hitting about 14HP. We aim to get it to 16HP after we have finished our new clutch design. Last Sunday we tore the linings off 3 premium quality Zocchi shoes which can get expensive. You should definitely wear gear when riding, especially if you have not ridden one before. We have already had one casualty, injured hand and cuts and bruises incurred by Sir KOS, which required a trip to the emergency room. Had he been wearing gear the Banshee Knights would have awarded him a Purple Heart.
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Originally Posted by CagMk2Man
Try putting your handlebars straight or a little off and you will see what I mean. They are sho's as only 1 factory makes them and I bought them direct.
In all of your photos the handle bars are at a very strange angle when they should ideally be almost straight.
Yep, Demtoofast witnessed this design fault on my bikes this weekend
Last edited by scooterteq : 01-25-2005 at 09:12 AM.
As the writer George Bernard Shaw said, the British and the Americans are two great peoples divided by a common language. In this case we seem to be almost talking about two different bikes and there may be a reason for this. It has become common practice now to refer to the GRC styled w/c pb as the SHO. To be blunt about it, no matter what factory it comes from unless it has a Banshee logo and serial number beginning with LSTSH050 it is not an SHO. The Scooterteq Banshee SHO's are factory modified to specs which we provide and these are changed as we encounter problems which may arise from time to time. Our changes are proprietary, meaning that we furnish the factory with ACAD engineering documents for our use only. We prefer to have most of our mods done at the factory however we will also release a series of special racing upgrades including a redesigned pipe, header, custom silencer and revolutionary clutch for use the SHO.
The first picture below shows the location of the overflow bottle on the original taken at just about eye level. It is well out of range of the handlebars when they are adujusted to the full top location. The pictures that follow it show where we have now moved the hose to the outside of the left fork to prevent fouling during left turns. This is a simple relocation and can be done in the field by adding a simple "L" shaped adapter at the tank.
We want to add a word of caution: the SHO engine is very powerful. With the new pipe it is already hitting about 14HP. We aim to get it to 16HP after we have finished our new clutch design. Last Sunday we tore the linings off 3 premium quality Zocchi shoes which can get expensive. You should definitely wear gear when riding, especially if you have not ridden one before. We have already had one casualty, injured hand and cuts and bruises incurred by Sir KOS, which required a trip to the emergency room. Had he been wearing gear the Banshee Knights would have awarded him a Purple Heart.
They come from the same factory that is 100% for sure. Ok so they're not branded with Banshee SHO but I could have them branded with anything I want and basically they are the same bike.
I have 2 samples just to see what they were like as standard before ordering a bulk load and so that I can request for problems such as this tank relocation to be sorted.
The coolant tank on my bikes is in the same place as your 2nd set of photos. The handle bars do not foul at all but the brake levers do. You have relocated the coolant tank and infact it looks as if it is loose in your first 2 photos (at the top), so I am fairly sure you encountered this problem or why would have you relocated it? It wasn't for purposes of rerouting the hose because you have left the hose in the original position.
Yah, I saw this issue on a Banshee Sho @ the weekend. The left hand side front fork fouls the coolant hose and prevents much steering movement to the left. And how are you comfortable with the handlebars in the position that they are in the the above pictures??? On a fullsize bike maybe, but not on a Mini Moto, it would be tank-slapper city here we come!
tank-slapper city Hop my Banshee is not from there! LOL
scooterteq.comAs the writer George Bernard Shaw said, the British and the Americans are two great peoples divided by a common language. In this case we seem to be almost talking about two different bikes and there may be a reason for this. It has become common practice now to refer to the GRC styled w/c pb as the SHO. To be blunt about it, no matter what factory it comes from unless it has a Banshee logo and serial number beginning with LSTSH050 it is not an SHO. The Scooterteq Banshee SHO's are factory modified to specs which we provide and these are changed as we encounter problems which may arise from time to time. Our changes are proprietary, meaning that we furnish the factory with ACAD engineering documents for our use only. We prefer to have most of our mods done at the factory however we will also release a series of special racing upgrades including a redesigned pipe, header, custom silencer and revolutionary clutch for use the SHO.
The first picture below shows the location of the overflow bottle on the original taken at just about eye level. It is well out of range of the handlebars when they are adujusted to the full top location. The pictures that follow it show where we have now moved the hose to the outside of the left fork to prevent fouling during left turns. This is a simple relocation and can be done in the field by adding a simple "L" shaped adapter at the tank.
We want to add a word of caution: the SHO engine is very powerful. With the new pipe it is already hitting about 14HP. We aim to get it to 16HP after we have finished our new clutch design. Last Sunday we tore the linings off 3 premium quality Zocchi shoes which can get expensive. You should definitely wear gear when riding, especially if you have not ridden one before. We have already had one casualty, injured hand and cuts and bruises incurred by Sir KOS, which required a trip to the emergency room. Had he been wearing gear the Banshee Knights would have awarded him a Purple Heart.
[PHP][/PHP] this guy must really thing we are stupid! i talked to louis from QJ last week and he is not very happy with you trademark comments Jim ! anyone that thinks the above paragraphs are true is crazy! anyone that has alot of money and knows how to import can get these exact same bikes! all your doing jim by claiming 14hp is ruining your reputation, we all know you cant gain 4.5hp by changing the pipe on this bike! good luck your gonna need it!
As the writer George Bernard Shaw said, the British and the Americans are two great peoples divided by a common language. In this case we seem to be almost talking about two different bikes and there may be a reason for this. It has become common practice now to refer to the GRC styled w/c pb as the SHO. To be blunt about it, no matter what factory it comes from unless it has a Banshee logo and serial number beginning with LSTSH050 it is not an SHO. The Scooterteq Banshee SHO's are factory modified to specs which we provide and these are changed as we encounter problems which may arise from time to time. Our changes are proprietary, meaning that we furnish the factory with ACAD engineering documents for our use only. We prefer to have most of our mods done at the factory however we will also release a series of special racing upgrades including a redesigned pipe, header, custom silencer and revolutionary clutch for use the SHO.
The first picture below shows the location of the overflow bottle on the original taken at just about eye level. It is well out of range of the handlebars when they are adujusted to the full top location. The pictures that follow it show where we have now moved the hose to the outside of the left fork to prevent fouling during left turns. This is a simple relocation and can be done in the field by adding a simple "L" shaped adapter at the tank.
We want to add a word of caution: the SHO engine is very powerful. With the new pipe it is already hitting about 14HP. We aim to get it to 16HP after we have finished our new clutch design. Last Sunday we tore the linings off 3 premium quality Zocchi shoes which can get expensive. You should definitely wear gear when riding, especially if you have not ridden one before. We have already had one casualty, injured hand and cuts and bruises incurred by Sir KOS, which required a trip to the emergency room. Had he been wearing gear the Banshee Knights would have awarded him a Purple Heart.
I'm in the market for a GRC GP replica like the Banshee SHO and I'd really love to know what these "factory mods" are that separate the Banshee from what other guys are selling. You're acting as if the Banshee is an entirely different bike or something. As far as I can tell, it appears that you're just slapping a set of stickers on it and jacking the price up. Please convince me otherwise with straight facts about the true differences or I'm taking my money elsewhere.
Also, I'm not going to shed a tear if I can't get into the "Order of the Banshee Knights," in fact, I'd prefer not being in it....so you can leave that out of your explanation.
P.S. I'm referring to the water-cooled bike, not the regular-old cag that shares its name.
You don't appear to hove been following the threads over the last month or more. We published the dynotest results that showed 9.6HP on an 800 lb. chassis drum. Where are everybody else's dynotest results? The dyno operator said specifically that testing on a 200 lb. drum would give a more accurate result and show an increase of at least 1 HP. Furthermore if you knew anything about pipe design, with the right engine, changing the header, pipe and silencer matched to the spider will make a very big difference in power output. If you care to take the time for a basic lesson go here http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/tunedpipetheory2.htm. I stated quite clearly earlier that when we are ready we will publish the dynotest results using out own upgraded products. I am pleased to hear that you took the time to call China and speak with Louis as you did last week but wonder why you bother to take his time. We speak with him every day. The copyright issue is a domestic issue and most Chinese do not yet understand the significance of intellectual property rights. It is sufficient to say that they respect our copyright whether they agree or disagree. We have spent a lot of time from the very beginning testing the unit and doing our own r&d to improve on it. When we first introduced it everybody fluffed it off as just another CAG. The situation has now changed considerably. Also, do not expect Louis or anyone else at the factory to tell you what they are doing at our request. After all, does anyone really care. People want to know what they will get here, not what is happening inside a company on the other side of the world. If you are not happy with this, do it your own way. Anyone else who claims to be selling units the same as ours is welcome to step up to the plate and publish what they are doing here on the forum, as we do consistently. Are you bringing units in? Are you going to have a substantial stock of spares and a repair facility open to any owner of one of them? Do you have one? Have you ever actually seen one? Are you going to actively promote it with support? If you are we would highly recommend that you copyright your efforts. If not, then we have an expression here in Texas that pretty well sums it up, "All hat, no cattle." I would have preferred a private message request to answer your issues on a one on one basis however if you prefer to show everybody how smart you are by airing it in public without really saying anything, so be it. PM's to us never go unanswered.
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Originally Posted by GET-R-DONE
scooterteq.comAs the writer George Bernard Shaw said, the British and the Americans are two great peoples divided by a common language. In this case we seem to be almost talking about two different bikes and there may be a reason for this. It has become common practice now to refer to the GRC styled w/c pb as the SHO. To be blunt about it, no matter what factory it comes from unless it has a Banshee logo and serial number beginning with LSTSH050 it is not an SHO. The Scooterteq Banshee SHO's are factory modified to specs which we provide and these are changed as we encounter problems which may arise from time to time. Our changes are proprietary, meaning that we furnish the factory with ACAD engineering documents for our use only. We prefer to have most of our mods done at the factory however we will also release a series of special racing upgrades including a redesigned pipe, header, custom silencer and revolutionary clutch for use the SHO.
The first picture below shows the location of the overflow bottle on the original taken at just about eye level. It is well out of range of the handlebars when they are adujusted to the full top location. The pictures that follow it show where we have now moved the hose to the outside of the left fork to prevent fouling during left turns. This is a simple relocation and can be done in the field by adding a simple "L" shaped adapter at the tank.
We want to add a word of caution: the SHO engine is very powerful. With the new pipe it is already hitting about 14HP. We aim to get it to 16HP after we have finished our new clutch design. Last Sunday we tore the linings off 3 premium quality Zocchi shoes which can get expensive. You should definitely wear gear when riding, especially if you have not ridden one before. We have already had one casualty, injured hand and cuts and bruises incurred by Sir KOS, which required a trip to the emergency room. Had he been wearing gear the Banshee Knights would have awarded him a Purple Heart.
[PHP][/PHP] this guy must really thing we are stupid! i talked to louis from QJ last week and he is not very happy with you trademark comments Jim ! anyone that thinks the above paragraphs are true is crazy! anyone that has alot of money and knows how to import can get these exact same bikes! all your doing jim by claiming 14hp is ruining your reputation, we all know you cant gain 4.5hp by changing the pipe on this bike! good luck your gonna need it!
Last edited by scooterteq : 01-30-2005 at 03:10 PM.
Well scooterteq.com, Sound like you guys really got the heads up on the BanShee, I have one. Lets put your modifcations to the test, What do I need to do, Money is not an object. I can say that the bike is a very good bike, I thin with some modifcations and ect. it can hang in it's class. Please PM me to get this rolling. Infact I can say that the stock bike is powerful. But I as anyone else want more power. What will it take to get this rolling now, If you say it's all good and this can be done. I wil personaly take the effert to spend the money and inform everyone my results. Also I did check my Serial Number and in fact it does match so I am runing a BanSheeSho per . yuor above information. Also I do have the turning issues on both my C1 and the BanShee. Not so much on the BanShee as the C1 but there is still a Turning issue. I have attached picture of my Banshee after tonight race, So you know I'm not planing any games.
bike looks alot better without that *** rear fender! if money is no object just start buying polini parts, thats the only way you will get it near 12hp ask dcminimoto they are REAL racers and REAL techs! if anyone can do anything to make this bike more powerfull it dcminimoto!
