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Old 09-16-2004   #21
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Hey lkrace, what's the deal with overheating, is ther a problem, and if ther is how can we fix it. What is the normal operation temprature shuld be?
The pump slips the belt because it can't move enough water.The biggest problem is the two water passages in the cylinder.They are very poorly drilled and most are plugged at the top.We clean out the passage and smooth both ends to allow better flow.
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the steering radius on the b1 rep is way less than the cag, and also if you dont keep the bike at 8k rpm when going into a turn you will fall over
The steering radius is almost the same as the half fairing Cagllari's.The bike is slightly longer and therfore the circle is slightly bigger.My son races the RVL with Cagllari med. compound slicks and it is perfectly stable in slow speed corners.

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WOW...Can you post some pictures of the bike itself...Can you take a pic from every angle and also tell us what are the pros and what are the cons....thanks a lot
I will add some more pictures to my gallery soon.

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how much are those liquid cooled cags runnin for?
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Yeah I've heard the blata origami belts have teeth on it, so it doesnt slip.

The bad thing is, getting inside to change the belt, from what I've heard, is a b*tch to install.

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The pump slips the belt because it can't move enough water.The biggest problem is the two water passages in the cylinder.They are very poorly drilled and most are plugged at the top.We clean out the passage and smooth both ends to allow better flow.
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how much are those liquid cooled cags runnin for?
They are $1599.00 Canadian with updates and a PDI performed on each bike.Check out the www.cagllari.com website.

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The pump slips the belt because it can't move enough water.The biggest problem is the two water passages in the cylinder.They are very poorly drilled and most are plugged at the top.We clean out the passage and smooth both ends to allow better flow.
do you have pictures of what needs to be drilled out?

and what about operation temperature, I'm installing thermometer on the bike, and I need to know what temp is good.
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Sonik i was wondering what the real b1 engages its clutch at.
the real B1 engages at 8000-8500 RPM with clutch springs adjusted to 21.00mm - according to their onwers manual on their site!
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Yeah I've heard the blata origami belts have teeth on it, so it doesnt slip.

The bad thing is, getting inside to change the belt, from what I've heard, is a *****.
The belt is behind the hardest to remove flywheel I have ever seen.The Chinese use a form of epoxy as locktite and it is a bear to break it loose the first time.I have pulled the threads right out of the flywheel once and had to drill them out and insert metric Helicoils.

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What does LKR stand for? Lakers?

Thanks for the good writeups about this bike. The more info, the better.
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Yeah, exactly. That sucks...hopefully next versions of this bike will have a better belt, although have you had problems with belt slippage?



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The belt is behind the hardest to remove flywheel I have ever seen.The Chinese use a form of epoxy as locktite and it is a bear to break it loose the first time.I have pulled the threads right out of the flywheel once and had to drill them out and insert metric Helicoils.

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What does LKR stand for? Lakers?

Thanks for the good writeups about this bike. The more info, the better.
It stands for Lee Kuhn Racing which is our factory Cagllari race team.We also run Rotax karts with Team Biesse from Italy.
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Yeah, exactly. That sucks...hopefully next versions of this bike will have a better belt, although have you had problems with belt slippage?
Once the water passages are cleaned up,it doesn't slip much at all.Don't run antifreeze and flush the motor and rad thoroughly before adding about 14 oz. of water and four capfuls of Redline Water wetter.If you fill the jug to the top it will puke everywhere when it gets hot.Cold you should just see about 1/8 " in the bottom of the jug.I am putting a GPT tach/temp gauge on and will give some RPM and temps in a couple days
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what passages are you talking about? do you have it opn the picture? and why are they sending antifreeze with the bike, then? LOL
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Sounds good. I'll keep that in mind.



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Once the water passages are cleaned up,it doesn't slip much at all.Don't run antifreeze and flush the motor and rad thoroughly before adding about 14 oz. of water and four capfuls of Redline Water wetter.If you fill the jug to the top it will puke everywhere when it gets hot.Cold you should just see about 1/8 " in the bottom of the jug.I am putting a GPT tach/temp gauge on and will give some RPM and temps in a couple days
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I put Anti freeze in mine and has never overheated since. Gone through about 7 tank full now... no issues
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did you use antifreeze that came with the bike, or just regular car stuff
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Regular car stuff.
I ask my exporter not to included the coolant they provide just in case Canada Customs start freaking out about dangerous goods and stuff. So I told him to keep it.
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how did you mix it? 50/50?
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how hard was it to tear down the motor to open up the cooling ports? Anything special needed?
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