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Old 06-08-2006   #41
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My zpf has fiberglass fairings and they are tuff as nails.

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My zpf has fiberglass fairings and they are tuff as nails.

yes they probly are but have they kissed the pavement yet

all i want to point out here is that all fiberglass is heavy and nonflexable
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yes they probly are but have they kissed the pavement yet

all i want to point out here is that all fiberglass is heavy and nonflexable
Yes why do you think I said "Tuff as nails".
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where can you get spares for them.. i am in need of a new fairing and seat unit after some very big crashes.... can you PM me a quote on a seat unit and fairing unsprayed if its cheaper to the UK

they really do look great i must say!!!!
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yes it is heavy, also when you repair it you loose layers so it is weaker after you fix it

plastwelding plastic fairings makes them good as new after a little sanding


i would be all gaga over the D1 if it had lexan fairings, like rc cars just thicker, that pastic is very ferm but yet it will flex if needed.. also you would paint it from the inside so no worrys about scatched paint, just buff the plastis with some polishing beads......
I'm surprised Lexan is not the norm...heck it's cheap and requires less tooling in terms of manufacturing. Seen one bike on pocket bikes unlimited (PBU) that has Lexan body work...was slick looking body work
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actually.. lexan wouldnt be such a good choice for this particular bike.. as the seat bolts are on the sides of the tail and there is no support in the middle.. and it would met of the heat comming from the pipe just a few CM below..
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Lexan doesnt melt that easily. we use it on our nitro rc cars all the time, sometimes with the exhaust pipes touching the lexan directly.

Lexan fairings is an awesome idea. very forgiving , light, cheap. someone make some!!!

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actually.. lexan wouldnt be such a good choice for this particular bike.. as the seat bolts are on the sides of the tail and there is no support in the middle.. and it would met of the heat comming from the pipe just a few CM below..
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Jay is right. That is a high stress area and will eventually give especially if your an agressive rider all over the seat. Lexan will work but will eventually crack at the seat mount. Comparing Lexan plastic bodies from a RC car to a Midi is somewhat not a good comparison. The RC car is a smaller mass compared to the Midi so the body work will be much more durable compared to larger surface area such as Midi bodywork. It will take a good tumble but will crack and fixing lexan will not be as strong as fiberglass that has been repaired correctly.
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Wow this is a very nice Bike hands down
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haha.. dude! where you been?!
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if the lexan was .050 or even .075 it would be tuff as nails, lexan cracks under high loads not constant flexing, it is a memory plastic, that is why i brought it up.... fiber glass can never get fixxed better then it was new, and agen fiberglass will not bend, plastic will and agen plastic is cheaper and lighter...
if you have a high stress area you just double or tripple up on layers, with the right kindof heat and glue plastic would work perfectly... i love the D1 frame, i hate the fact that it has fiberglass as a cover....say goodbie to your nuts in a bad accident the the fiberglass shatters between your legs....there are things PB need and there are thing that they dont!


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Jay is right. That is a high stress area and will eventually give especially if your an agressive rider all over the seat. Lexan will work but will eventually crack at the seat mount. Comparing Lexan plastic bodies from a RC car to a Midi is somewhat not a good comparison. The RC car is a smaller mass compared to the Midi so the body work will be much more durable compared to larger surface area such as Midi bodywork. It will take a good tumble but will crack and fixing lexan will not be as strong as fiberglass that has been repaired correctly.
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haha.. dude! where you been?!
I been around just hang out and jsut stopping by to see whats new with PBP. Gald to see things still going in here. Oh i got to have that new D1.
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if the lexan was .050 or even .075 it would be tuff as nails, lexan cracks under high loads not constant flexing, it is a memory plastic, that is why i brought it up.... fiber glass can never get fixxed better then it was new, and agen fiberglass will not bend, plastic will and agen plastic is cheaper and lighter...
Ahh I disagree it depends on who does the repairs trust me it can be better then before and stronger plus it depends on the type of fiber weave. Constant flexing is a major contributor of stress crack from wear. If you constanly bend at a certain point it will weak'n and eventually give.
if you have a high stress area you just double or tripple up on layers, with the right kindof heat and glue plastic would work perfectly... i love the D1 frame, i hate the fact that it has fiberglass as a cover....say goodbie to your nuts in a bad accident the the fiberglass shatters between your legs....there are things PB need and there are thing that they dont!
I have yet to experiance shattering fiberglass "Knock on wood" and I have been in some wicked get-offs on a Euro along with big bikes. I have had plastic shatter with shrapnel being thrown all over from riding China cags though
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[quote=MelloCag]I have yet to experiance shattering fiberglass "Knock on wood" and I have been in some wicked get-offs on a Euro along with big bikes. I have had plastic shatter with shrapnel being thrown all over from riding China cags though/quote]

lol i will agree with you there plastics can get messy too

you put up a good point, good job bro, it great to see more people that know there stuff here, good posts.....lol
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Heres another pic

AND the website says its 40cc! I belive ozzminimoto said it was 50cc. Inless he was looking at another website.

[img=http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3298/2406zo.th.jpg]

Cant get the picture on here I will try it again

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will the engine be more powerfull than the z1 if so by how much ?
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I heard the Z1 motor ran fine. It just came setup with the wrong port timing, poorly set squish and bad bearings. The UK site that sells Z1 version 2 claimed to have them with the corrected specs? If our good friend at Xp is on it like I think he is, this could be the best China bike ever.
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well it is pocketbike pro im buying the engine from but im still ordering bearings and seals from xp bikes just to be safe !
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