For The Most Part I Do Not Post Reply To Threads Of This Nature But This Is Getting Out Of Hand, To Even State That Ted Is Hijacking Threads Is Just Uncalled For. He Gives Real Information In Regards To Performance And Teck Knowledge About Pocket Bikes, It Does Not Matter If They Are Cags Or Italian Bikes Just The Facts. We Are Tring To Keep The Sport Alive By Giving Honest Information About Performance Issues In Regards To Chinese Vs Real Italian Bikes, You Need To Stop Pointing Fingers And Just Accept That A Knock Off Of A Superior Product Happens For A Reason, You Can Not Compare A Hand Made Bike In Small Quantities Vs A Mass Produced Product Knockoff Made To Sell. Once Again We Are Not Trying To Stop Anyone From Selling Anything They Are Marketing, But Just Try To Keep Things Realalistic, Stop And Think For A Second Why Are Other Shops Selling Upgrades For Knockoff Bikes And Not Real Italian Bikes. I Myself Can't Remember Other Shops Making Upgrades For Real Italian Engines But There Is Sure Alot Of Upgrades For Knockoff Engines.
If You Run Chinese Great, But Do Not Try To Say That A Knockoff Is At The Same Level That A Hand Made Italian Bike Is, Once Again We Sell Chinese Bikes But We Do Not Tell People That They Can Compete With The Real Thing.
Although I don't agree with everything you have said, you said it like a TRUE PROFESSIONAL....and thats what we need to promote the pocket bike industry (irrespective of product) with thousands of people watching on the planets threads, ...Bravo..Bravo...your the man.
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Originally Posted by speedjunkieblue
For The Most Part I Do Not Post Reply To Threads Of This Nature But This Is Getting Out Of Hand, To Even State That Ted Is Hijacking Threads Is Just Uncalled For. He Gives Real Information In Regards To Performance And Teck Knowledge About Pocket Bikes, It Does Not Matter If They Are Cags Or Italian Bikes Just The Facts. We Are Tring To Keep The Sport Alive By Giving Honest Information About Performance Issues In Regards To Chinese Vs Real Italian Bikes, You Need To Stop Pointing Fingers And Just Accept That A Knock Off Of A Superior Product Happens For A Reason, You Can Not Compare A Hand Made Bike In Small Quantities Vs A Mass Produced Product Knockoff Made To Sell. Once Again We Are Not Trying To Stop Anyone From Selling Anything They Are Marketing, But Just Try To Keep Things Realalistic, Stop And Think For A Second Why Are Other Shops Selling Upgrades For Knockoff Bikes And Not Real Italian Bikes. I Myself Can't Remember Other Shops Making Upgrades For Real Italian Engines But There Is Sure Alot Of Upgrades For Knockoff Engines.
If You Run Chinese Great, But Do Not Try To Say That A Knockoff Is At The Same Level That A Hand Made Italian Bike Is, Once Again We Sell Chinese Bikes But We Do Not Tell People That They Can Compete With The Real Thing.
who cares if its pink or has poka dots, i just cant wait. allright XPretty bikes i am buying this now. lucky 7, your cute but your going to have a friend with my zpf replcia bike.
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it cant be a try rep then as the real zpf only comes in red yellow and black
Well, I'm over the edge here having searched for a solution over these forums. I have two sons that ride CAG's and hammer me for ZPF's or some kind of Italian bike. No, I mean hammer me. Price for Italians has always been out of the question for us, despite one sons promise to be my work slave on Saturdays.
This new bike answers my dilemma and, well, I am getting the thumbs up here from two pocket bikers.
Mr. xpbikes, I hope you take credit cards. Thanks for an inexpensive alternative.
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lol yeh i guess lol im gettin the real thing in the next week (if all goes to plan) it will be the 3rd red 1 in the UK
the zpf copy should run strong since it has allready been dyno tested at over 10hp! i have rode the real thing and if it handles like it the replica is a bargin!
Well, I'm over the edge here having searched for a solution over these forums. I have two sons that ride CAG's and hammer me for ZPF's or some kind of Italian bike. No, I mean hammer me. Price for Italians has always been out of the question for us, despite one sons promise to be my work slave on Saturdays.
This new bike answers my dilemma and, well, I am getting the thumbs up here from two pocket bikers.
Mr. xpbikes, I hope you take credit cards. Thanks for an inexpensive alternative.
im ride a banshee and a b1rep and kill most people on 'real itailian'bikes with them 2 but the only reason im getting a real zpf is cuz over here in the uk lots of people are very anti cag (i mean some people HATE them!!!) and there ent nowhere i can race it without people trying to kick me off and what not so thats the only reason really im getting 1 (sorry if i offended you btw) i love cags and always will give them respected but i just wanna race so i need a itailian bike
Okay now once again I am not trying to compare these repros to the real thing and if stuff I say sounds negative it is because I'm sick of euro guys posting in our forums saying stuff that sounds so snooty, we know that the euros rock and some of us are working our way up to them, but to say stuff like I would never alow my meathooks to be put on repros is just plain crazy, if your going to make money on them why not most guys with cags run meathooks anyway. And as for the information thing I appreciate people that bring to light lies told buy dealers about a product but Damian has never lied, and hes the only one I've seen that has the b*lls to dyno these things, and I say were action is taken respect should be given. We all know that a stock repro is no match for the real thing but that has never been the issue now has it?
Listen I Dont Give A Crap If Euro Guys Hate Us, We Are Allways Going To Be Here And They Are Going To Have To Deal With Us! All I Can Say Is My Chinese Bike With Some Euro Parts And Alot Of Enginering Can Pull Away From Any Euro Bike I Have Seen At Our Track, Now If I Just Could Learn To Ride The **** Thing. If I Was That Guy That Was Getting Kicked Off His Bike Because He Had A Chinese Bike, I Would Go Home Build The Baddest Engine Put It In A Chinese Bike And Smoke There As$ And Laugh At Them! Fast Because Of Enginering , Thats The Way It Should Be!
Listen I Dont Give A Crap If Euro Guys Hate Us, We Are Allways Going To Be Here And They Are Going To Have To Deal With Us! All I Can Say Is My Chinese Bike With Some Euro Parts And Alot Of Enginering Can Pull Away From Any Euro Bike I Have Seen At Our Track, Now If I Just Could Learn To Ride The **** Thing. If I Was That Guy That Was Getting Kicked Off His Bike Because He Had A Chinese Bike, I Would Go Home Build The Baddest Engine Put It In A Chinese Bike And Smoke There As$ And Laugh At Them! Fast Because Of Enginering , Thats The Way It Should Be!
I Bet You Would Feel Different IF You Or A Family Member Worked At One Of The Small PB Factories In Europe. Especially If You Did All The R&D! And China Just Copied All Your Hard Work. And I Don't Hate You! But Can Very Much Understand Why People Would Be Upset. Especially In Europe!!
I Just Wish We Could See Some Of These Bikes Race Here In Stockton!
Thank you for your response. But please think for a moment. Do you really believe that people with the cash, who are died in the wool, loyal Italian Aprilla OR Ducati motorcycle fans will buy a Honda? Did Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki AND Kawasaki put those smaller businesses out simply because there cheaper OR in some cases better performing bikes even? Think about that.
Your support of Italian bikes is respected.
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I Bet You Would Feel Different IF You Or A Family Member Worked At One Of The Small PB Factories In Europe. Especially If You Did All The R&D! And China Just Copied All Your Hard Work. And I Don't Hate You! But Can Very Much Understand Why People Would Be Upset. Especially In Europe!!
I Just Wish We Could See Some Of These Bikes Race Here In Stockton!
They are currently available in black, red, yellow, blue and green but we have more colors coming.
We strive to get orders out within 24 hours and ship via FedEx ground (US, of course), however, we've had much interest so we're asking you allow us up to 5-10 days to get it to your door.
I Bet You Would Feel Different IF You Or A Family Member Worked At One Of The Small PB Factories In Europe. Especially If You Did All The R&D! And China Just Copied All Your Hard Work. And I Don't Hate You! But Can Very Much Understand Why People Would Be Upset. Especially In Europe!!
I Just Wish We Could See Some Of These Bikes Race Here In Stockton!
HELLO what about all the after market parts they sell each and every year. more than enough to suport the industry. infact they probably make more money on the parts they sell to the china bike guys than they do parts to the real thing and bikes combined. so unless you personally know someone in italy that works at one of these mom and pop shops that has told you the replica is hurting them why post it???????
Thank you for your response. But please think for a moment. Do you really believe that people with the cash, who are died in the wool, loyal Italian Aprilla OR Ducati motorcycle fans will buy a Honda? Did Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki AND Kawasaki put those smaller businesses out simply because there cheaper OR in some cases better performing bikes even? Think about that.
Your support of Italian bikes is respected.
Your Welcome, but my response was directed to NitroMuncher.
Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki....As far as I know they haven't made any replica knockoffs . And I like my Honda CR250 and Suzuki GSXR750 and have no problem with different bike manufactures...but I know these are not replica (knockoffs) bikes. About 9 yrs ago I almost had some pbs shipped to me from Europe, but at the time they were going to be even more expensive to get them then what they are today. My cags were a great way to get me into the sport and I still race them.... at the time I got them I didn't even know they were knockoffs of anything. But I'm glad it was able to get me into the sport of racing and since then have purchase 2 DMs which are great bikes.
Great Deal 
