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X19 wont start! Helpp!!

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#1 ·
Okay so im new to this pocket bike stuff i just got an x19 not new its an 06 automatic i bought it used off off some guy and it worked great the first day no problems then took it for a ride yesterday morning it ran great for a lap around the block as soon as i slowed down it turned off and wouldnt start back up??? what can be wrong? I bought a new spark plug changed the oil and nothing.. i tried to check for a spark but idk if i did it right because i got no spark but when i go to start it with the electric start it sounds like its about to start and when i give it gas it sounds like its reving a little bit but wont start... PLEASE HELP I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT COULD BE WRONG
 
#2 ·
Go to where your coil is mounted on the bike and make sure both wires are connected to where they are supposed to be on the coil.

It could also be a carburetor problem, but it sounds electrical try it tomorrow and see if it fires up.

To test spark, take out the spark plug, clean it off as best as possible, and then take your spark plug wire and put the spark plug in it. Then ground the plug and wire to a part of the head of the engine that is not painted (a bolt will work if its not rusted). Then crank the engine and see if a blue spark passes the gap of the spark plug.

Also another easy way to figure out is to pour just a tad of gas into the spark plug hole and then reconnect the spark plug and wire and crank it and see if it fires a few times. If not you have an electrical problem you need to troubleshoot.

See if all your connectors and wires are all connected and nothing is just hanging out.
 
#4 ·
Alright, it could be an electrical problem. But first before we go any further in diagnosing this, put just a slight bit of gasoline into the spark plug hole and put the plug back in and the wire back on and fire it up. If it still does not start you have an electrical problem.

Is there another connector that is also just laying out? I am guessing that goes to the rear or front lights but since you do not have those anymore it is not necessary to plug that into anything.
 
#5 ·
Also the little black oval thing with the green wire mounted to it, is the coil. Is the green wire actually attached? In the video it looks like it is ripped or something? If you don't know take a pic of the wire and I'll tell you if its fine or not.
 
#6 ·
Ok I did another video I figured that's easier to see it but I didn't try putting gas in the spark hole yet because I'm not getting a spark at all so I feel it wouldn't do me any good but the video shows the green wire and everything clear so let me know what you think after looking at the video.. I really wanna get this thing started it worked fine the other day and I didn't touch any of the wiring or anything I changed oil and got a new spark plug that's it.

VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_gdZvIP48&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
#9 ·
Ok I did another video I figured that's easier to see it but I didn't try putting gas in the spark hole yet because I'm not getting a spark at all so I feel it wouldn't do me any good but the video shows the green wire and everything clear so let me know what you think after looking at the video.. I really wanna get this thing started it worked fine the other day and I didn't touch any of the wiring or anything I changed oil and got a new spark plug that's it.

VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_gdZvIP48&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Pull the coil wire off the plug hang on to it touch the head with your finger hit the starter and let us know what happens.
 
#7 ·
I am not a hundred percent sure what that plug is for, but it is possible your CDI is unhooked. Do you see a little black box that looks like this? http://www.scooterpart.net/products.php?id=529 and is it plugged in?

Your coil wires look good, your starter solenoid is fine (which is the other black object you were looking at in the picture that had 4 wires connected to it.)

Otherwise I would really recommend putting in a little bit of gas in the spark plug hole and see what happens, sometimes it's just a surprise.

Also is your spark plug clean and gapped at 0.025" +- some?
 
#12 ·
Do an ohms test on the stator to make sure its generating proper power........

In your vid the plug with 5 wires is for your gear shift selector....If you have a full auto bike it wont be hooked up as the full auto bikes are 1 speed..........

The turn light buzzer was most likely removed to kill the annoying beep which results in inoperable blinkers.......buy a 2 prong 12volt regular duty 80's Gm car flasher and hook the two wires to the two prongs..that will get the blinkers working.............

the round thing is the starter solenoid...its a high current relay to bump the starter.................

 
#17 ·
Ok I tried putting gas in the spark plug hole and starting it up and nothing still just sounds like it's gonna start but not starting... what parts could be bad that I'm not getting a spark? I don't wanna buy all new stuff just to find out it's not the reason the bike won't start..

Also how do I do an ohms test?? (stupid question I know)
 
#18 · (Edited)
Please specify what you mean by "It sounds like it is going to start." Do you mean it fires once or twice? If it is firing once or twice your spark is fine, you need to do some carburetor work which we can lead you through.

To do an OHMs testing you will do exactly as Cam's picture says to do. Basically go to the side of your bike and you will see a half inch black wire coming out of your drivetrain. Follow that up to the little plastic connector, where it connects with the next set of wires. Then you will do exactly as the picture says and connect the red terminal (positive) of your voltimeter to the red and black wire of the plastic connector. Then you will put the black terminal (negative) of your voltimeter on the green wire or black wire that is not part of the plastic connector but is still coming out of the 1/2" wire.

If you look at the picture the arm of the voltimeter is set diagonal, set it exactly like that and it will read ohms, (unless your voltimeter does not look like that, but most basic ones do.)

Parts that effect spark: Stator (Alternator), CDI (Black box, holds a charge of a couple hundred volts), Coil (Oval looking thing with green wire attached, and heavy duty wire coming out of it that leads to the spark plug, and then the spark plug itself which needs to be gapped properly and very clean.
 
#22 ·
If you have a Harbor Freight Tools around your house they sell them for about $4.00, and if they have a sale you can get one for like $2.00, any who it is called a Multi-meter. Ace Hardware I'm sure has one, Napa probably, Autozone, etc.
 
#24 ·
Okay guys so luckily my friend has an x-18 and his dad upgraded the entire thing for him and has a ton of spare parts laying around and offered to take the bike and look over it. we looked for about 3 hours checked everything put a new coil new spark plug and a bunch of other stuff and he's narrowed it down to the magnetor being bad he thinks I should order a new one and try that but he's not passative I wanna know what you guys think I did the test with that volt meter and I didn't get anything... Also were is the best place to get a magnetor? I have a 2006 x19 FULL AUTO
 
#25 ·
Cam2 might be better off answering this question, but it sounds to me like if your not getting any resistance then you either did not do the procedure correctly to check the OHM's.. or there is a bad connection somewhere. Do you have a good ground?

I would think if it was faulty it would be putting out at least a small amount of resistance, but I could be completely wrong about that as well lol. It's a learning experience for everyone.
 
#30 ·
i had my friends dad do it for me he checked on a bunch of different settings he said its diffinately not getting power to the coil.

he checked the spark plug first saw it had no spark then traced the plug wire back to the coil checked all that then he followed that wire to some regulator he said is between the magneto and the coil and he said that it wasnt broken he tried replacing it and that didnt work so he looked at the magneto and he couldnt see anything wrong but hes saying hes like 90 percent sure thats what it is...

I personally dont think thats what it is but what do i know...

Im stuck and have no idea what to do should i buy a new magneto and try it? if so were should i buy one...

sorry guys i know im a pain to deal with but i just really wanna ride my bike its septemeber in new york this is my last chance.
 
#31 ·
i had my friends dad do it for me he checked on a bunch of different settings he said its diffinately not getting power to the coil.

he checked the spark plug first saw it had no spark then traced the plug wire back to the coil checked all that then he followed that wire to some regulator he said is between the magneto and the coil and he said that it wasnt broken he tried replacing it and that didnt work so he looked at the magneto and he couldnt see anything wrong but hes saying hes like 90 percent sure thats what it is...

I personally dont think thats what it is but what do i know...

Im stuck and have no idea what to do should i buy a new magneto and try it? if so were should i buy one...

sorry guys i know im a pain to deal with but i just really wanna ride my bike its septemeber in new york this is my last chance.
If you do a test and its not within parameters .....the part is faulty.........

I bought a brand new non running X22 from the original owner that they had running for only 10 minutes,,high wind knocked it over and the bike wouldnt start back up...They bought from a crappy place and got screwed over on warranty repairs...the old owner got fed up and sold it to me for $175.00....

Within a couple hours after trying and checking everything I found the test onlne and performed the test then I swapped the stator out from an old one I had from my x15 upgrade and it started right up..........

My x18 stator broke while stunting.....I put the frontend down too hard and it instantly shutoff.....it wouldnt start back up......Thinking about the X22 I whipped out the multimeter to find out it was toast......

The coating the chinese coats the windings with isnt too strong or vibration resistant aswell as not being of proper grade and quality for that type of electrical device..........
 
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