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Old 01-16-2006
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New 2 stroke import rules.

From what I have been told nothing is 100% yet. The new rules that went into effect on Jan 1st, 2006 are still being discussed between the major importers and the EPA. Nobody knows exactly how they will effect the 2 and 4 stroke imports coming from ANY country.

Right now anything you hear are just rumors.
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Old 01-16-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

I know for sure on 4 stroke they cannot be registered without having an epa certificate if its an 06 model or newer. Customs is checking epa certification for all 4 stroke bikes/atvs coming in through customs. As of now no 2 strokes will be let in but like you said its still being discussed but right now no 2 strokes
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Old 01-17-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Environmental Protection
Agency
Air and Radiation EPA420-F-02-045
September 2002
Office of Transportation and Air Quality
Emission Exemption for Racing
Motorcycles and Other Competition
Vehicles
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has adopted emission
standards for recreational vehicles, including snowmobiles, off-highway
motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles. This information sheet addresses
questions we have heard from owners about vehicles that are used for
racing.
Is EPA regulating racing vehicles?
In the 1990 Amendments to the Clean Air Act, the U.S. Congress directed
EPA to set emission standards for nonroad engines that contribute
to air pollution, including motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles (ATVs), and
snowmobiles. However, Congress excluded nonroad vehicles that are
“used solely for competition.” We therefore adopted regulations that
generally exclude from the new regulations vehicles used for competition.
What qualifies as competition?
For snowmobiles, motorcycles, and ATVs, we generally consider the
term “competition” to include only organized racing. It may include both
amateur and professional racing, but is limited to closed-course racing
and open-course racing that is formally sanctioned by a recognized
racing organization. All other uses are considered to be “recreational.”
2
What about existing vehicles?
Our regulations do not require manufacturers to certify vehicles before
2006. Therefore, the EPA restrictions related to competition generally do
not apply to vehicles that were manufactured before 2006. We do not
restrict how you may use these older vehicles.
How do I know if my vehicle is excluded?
Manufacturers generally already label most racing vehicles to show that
they are competition models. We allow manufacturers to put those labels
only on those vehicles that we determine will be used solely for competition.
Manufacturers will need to certify that all their other vehicles meet
our standards and add a label showing that these are EPA-certified
vehicles. If you use an EPA-certified vehicle for competition only, it
does not need to meet emission standards. This would allow you to
modify it however you want, but only if you use it solely for competition
and not for any recreational purpose. These criteria are summarized in
the following table.
Restrictions on Use and Maintenance


Which vehicles may a manufacturer label as
competition vehicles?
We adopted a general provision under which we will allow a manufacturer
to label new vehicles for competition whenever that manufacturer
can show us that the vehicles will be used only for competition. We also
include specific guidance to help manufacturers make this showing. We
worked with manufacturers throughout the rulemaking process to ensure
that we properly treat vehicles that are used for competition in our
regulations.
Are motorcycles, ATVs and snowmobiles treated the
same?
No. We created special provisions for motorcycles that will make it
easier for manufacturers to get permission to label their competition
motorcycles. Unlike ATVs and snowmobiles, a very large fraction of offhighway
motorcycles are used for amateur racing. It is important to note,
though, that we will not exempt any model and allow a manufacturer to
label it for competition if we do not believe it will be used only for
competition.
What kinds of vehicles may I use for competition?
You may generally use any of three kinds of vehicles for competition:
• A vehicle with an EPA label showing that the manufacturer has
produced it under our competition exemption
• A vehicle that was built before 2006
• An EPA-certified vehicle
It may be surprising to think that EPA-certified vehicles would be used
in competition, but all four-stroke motorcycles should meet emission
standards without any loss of performance. So, we expect most manufacturers
to market EPA-certified four-stroke motorcycles for racing. We
also included an optional standard for motorcycles to encourage manufacturers
to produce and certify clean two-stroke competition motorcycles.
May I modify a vehicle for competition?
You may modify your vehicle’s engine or emission controls in any way
if it is not subject to our standards. This applies to all vehicles built
before 2006 and all vehicles that have the EPA label for competition
from the manufacturer.
You may also modify EPA-certified vehicles if you will use them only
for competition. However, you may not modify your EPA-certified
vehicle in a way that increases emissions if you use the vehicle for both
recreation and competition.
May I use an uncertified vehicle just for fun?
You may use any older vehicles that were built in 2005 or earlier. For
2006 and later models, you may not use an uncertified vehicle for noncompetition
use. You are not allowed to use an excluded competition
vehicle for recreational purposes if it was built in 2006 or later.
What requirements apply to excluded vehicles?
There are two EPA requirements that apply to competition vehicles that
are excluded from the regulations. First, as described above, if we
exclude a vehicle, you may not use it for recreation. Second, if your
vehicle is excluded because you modify an EPA-certified vehicle, you
must destroy the original emissions label to show that it is no longer
“certified” and may only be used for competition. Once you modify your
vehicle, you may no longer use it for recreation. If you sell or give one
of these engines to someone else, you must tell the new owner in writing
that it may be used only for competition.
In addition to these EPA requirements, state and local governments may
have requirements or restrictions that apply to excluded vehicles. For
example, a state may require you to register your competition vehicle, or
may prohibit use of excluded vehicles on public land.
Where can I get more information?
You can access documents on recreational vehicles on the Office of
Transportation and Air Quality Web site at:

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/recveh.htm
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Old 02-28-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

those rules stink
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Old 04-24-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Quote:
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As of now no 2 strokes will be let in but like you said its still being discussed but right now no 2 strokes
does that mean all that junk i have in storage will be more valuable now?
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Old 04-24-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hitbyaprkedcar77
Environmental Protection
Agency
Air and Radiation EPA420-F-02-045
September 2002
Office of Transportation and Air Quality
Emission Exemption for Racing
Motorcycles and Other Competition
Vehicles
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has adopted emission
standards for recreational vehicles, including snowmobiles, off-highway
motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles. This information sheet addresses
questions we have heard from owners about vehicles that are used for
racing.
Is EPA regulating racing vehicles?
In the 1990 Amendments to the Clean Air Act, the U.S. Congress directed
EPA to set emission standards for nonroad engines that contribute
to air pollution, including motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles (ATVs), and
snowmobiles. However, Congress excluded nonroad vehicles that are
“used solely for competition.” We therefore adopted regulations that
generally exclude from the new regulations vehicles used for competition.
What qualifies as competition?
For snowmobiles, motorcycles, and ATVs, we generally consider the
term “competition” to include only organized racing. It may include both
amateur and professional racing, but is limited to closed-course racing
and open-course racing that is formally sanctioned by a recognized
racing organization. All other uses are considered to be “recreational.”
2
What about existing vehicles?
Our regulations do not require manufacturers to certify vehicles before
2006. Therefore, the EPA restrictions related to competition generally do
not apply to vehicles that were manufactured before 2006. We do not
restrict how you may use these older vehicles.
How do I know if my vehicle is excluded?
Manufacturers generally already label most racing vehicles to show that
they are competition models. We allow manufacturers to put those labels
only on those vehicles that we determine will be used solely for competition.
Manufacturers will need to certify that all their other vehicles meet
our standards and add a label showing that these are EPA-certified
vehicles. If you use an EPA-certified vehicle for competition only, it
does not need to meet emission standards. This would allow you to
modify it however you want, but only if you use it solely for competition
and not for any recreational purpose. These criteria are summarized in
the following table.
Restrictions on Use and Maintenance


Which vehicles may a manufacturer label as
competition vehicles?
We adopted a general provision under which we will allow a manufacturer
to label new vehicles for competition whenever that manufacturer
can show us that the vehicles will be used only for competition. We also
include specific guidance to help manufacturers make this showing. We
worked with manufacturers throughout the rulemaking process to ensure
that we properly treat vehicles that are used for competition in our
regulations.
Are motorcycles, ATVs and snowmobiles treated the
same?
No. We created special provisions for motorcycles that will make it
easier for manufacturers to get permission to label their competition
motorcycles. Unlike ATVs and snowmobiles, a very large fraction of offhighway
motorcycles are used for amateur racing. It is important to note,
though, that we will not exempt any model and allow a manufacturer to
label it for competition if we do not believe it will be used only for
competition.
What kinds of vehicles may I use for competition?
You may generally use any of three kinds of vehicles for competition:
• A vehicle with an EPA label showing that the manufacturer has
produced it under our competition exemption
• A vehicle that was built before 2006
• An EPA-certified vehicle
It may be surprising to think that EPA-certified vehicles would be used
in competition, but all four-stroke motorcycles should meet emission
standards without any loss of performance. So, we expect most manufacturers
to market EPA-certified four-stroke motorcycles for racing. We
also included an optional standard for motorcycles to encourage manufacturers
to produce and certify clean two-stroke competition motorcycles.
May I modify a vehicle for competition?
You may modify your vehicle’s engine or emission controls in any way
if it is not subject to our standards. This applies to all vehicles built
before 2006 and all vehicles that have the EPA label for competition
from the manufacturer.
You may also modify EPA-certified vehicles if you will use them only
for competition. However, you may not modify your EPA-certified
vehicle in a way that increases emissions if you use the vehicle for both
recreation and competition.
May I use an uncertified vehicle just for fun?
You may use any older vehicles that were built in 2005 or earlier. For
2006 and later models, you may not use an uncertified vehicle for noncompetition
use. You are not allowed to use an excluded competition
vehicle for recreational purposes if it was built in 2006 or later.
What requirements apply to excluded vehicles?
There are two EPA requirements that apply to competition vehicles that
are excluded from the regulations. First, as described above, if we
exclude a vehicle, you may not use it for recreation. Second, if your
vehicle is excluded because you modify an EPA-certified vehicle, you
must destroy the original emissions label to show that it is no longer
“certified” and may only be used for competition. Once you modify your
vehicle, you may no longer use it for recreation. If you sell or give one
of these engines to someone else, you must tell the new owner in writing
that it may be used only for competition.
In addition to these EPA requirements, state and local governments may
have requirements or restrictions that apply to excluded vehicles. For
example, a state may require you to register your competition vehicle, or
may prohibit use of excluded vehicles on public land.
Where can I get more information?
You can access documents on recreational vehicles on the Office of
Transportation and Air Quality Web site at:

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/recveh.htm
this info looks farmiliar - i read very similar paperwork before i imported all my bikes back in 2004 - the interesting thing that's NOT in this post, but that i recall reading back then, it excluded all engines 50cc and under.

think about that - weed eaters, chain saws, hedge trimmers and everything would most likely then be added to the list of banned 2 strokes if that were the case (i know we are talking about recreational vehicles, but you see the point) and we all know that ain't happenin' any time soon!
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Old 04-29-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

just import rolling chasis and engine seperately, then assemble here...
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Old 04-30-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

The way of the future, jump on technology or get left behind just look at 2 stroke motorcross industry. 4 strokes will be it very soon. Add this to all the lawsuits and impounds of all the China copies that are just finally starting to make an impact and watch the industry change.
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Old 05-03-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Quote:
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just import rolling chasis and engine seperately, then assemble here...
The cost will go up..... they are to cheap to have them made in the usa
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Old 05-16-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

I think this means, 2 and 4 strokes aren't allowed to ride on road any more, but u are still aloud to competite with them, what about road bikes? they carn't get rid of road bikes, other wise alot of industries will be going out of bussiness, so i don't think they making it that stricked or doing it anytime soon, plus the motorbike industry has gone threw the roof! since it was first born, so the goverments would be loosing alot of money! alot!. anyway i must agree pocketbikes are very loud, i was just testing my knew, free upgrade i did and 2 people called cops and only ride it for 5 mins and i never start it up at home so they shouldn't be angry with me, lucky police had a sence of humour and let me go with nothing, since the coppers son has one, opps sorry better get back to what i was saying lol. well anyway if they band motorbikes from on road use hopely an epademic brakes loose then we all grab our motorbikes and head over to EPA and run them over? :P well this is my oppinon
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Old 05-21-2006
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

about the companies going out of business i can name one definate SUZUKI b/c no 1 buys ther cars lol, and if the motorbikes are banned completely im with you in running the EPA people over on bikes. ill jump on one even though i am 16 5'7 and 125 lbs lmao

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I think this means, 2 and 4 strokes aren't allowed to ride on road any more, but u are still aloud to competite with them, what about road bikes? they carn't get rid of road bikes, other wise alot of industries will be going out of bussiness, so i don't think they making it that stricked or doing it anytime soon, plus the motorbike industry has gone threw the roof! since it was first born, so the goverments would be loosing alot of money! alot!. anyway i must agree pocketbikes are very loud, i was just testing my knew, free upgrade i did and 2 people called cops and only ride it for 5 mins and i never start it up at home so they shouldn't be angry with me, lucky police had a sence of humour and let me go with nothing, since the coppers son has one, opps sorry better get back to what i was saying lol. well anyway if they band motorbikes from on road use hopely an epademic brakes loose then we all grab our motorbikes and head over to EPA and run them over? :P well this is my oppinon
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Quote:
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just import rolling chasis and engine seperately, then assemble here...
I pray for that every time I get another bike......I would just as soon assemble it myself then that way it would save me the hassle of DISASSEMBLING and reassembling it just to make it right.....
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[quote=cutlasskel]I pray for that every time I get another bike......I would just as soon assemble it myself then that way it would save me the hassle of DISASSEMBLING and reassembling it just to make it right..... yeah he said it lol.
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

" 4 strokes aren't allowed to ride on road any more"

There go's that 21g harley i just got electra glide

Plus this ban has been in the owrks for year another way for the epa to reduce emmissions ... they should start with the big rigss i am going to put a stock pocket bike and a race ready bike on the machine i will post that charts
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that is pathetic.
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

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those rules stink

Yes they do!
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

PAcustom mentioned about putting a ban on Big Rigs. My father owns a company that produces barcodes, and they make a lot of shipping codes for truckers. He recieves info monthly on all aspects of trucking, even though he has never drivin one in his entire life. The big rigs, as of January 1st, 2007 are suppose to change to low sulfer diesel. The machines that are in these rigs cannot burn this specific diesel, so its a huge huge issue for them. How long it takes for this to actually work itself into the system, god only knows.
We have this low sulfer diesel here, have had it for many years due to over 70% of vehicles in Europe being diesel burners. It may be more than 70%, I could be a bit off.
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can i take a super pocket bike 49cc bought in Canada to the USA?
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

if i had to guess,i would say you could bring it with you if you were moving here.id just take the engine out when i send it.
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Re: New 2 stroke import rules.

Wrong. The diesel in the US is sulfer free since last year and about 90% of cars in europe are diesel. They made a 60mpg car their and it wont be here any time soon seeing how we only have 2% diesel vehicles since saab and volvo stopped making them. Plus diesel is like $4 a gallon. Anyways F, the EPA they should be worrying about other things not pocket bikes. I bet we don't even contribute to 1% of the pollution here.
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