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just want to make sure what kind oil?

hey guys im gonna be ordering an x-19 this week and i want to know what kind of oil should i put in the bike 1st then after i break it in? and how muhc oil. thank you
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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

Dont just get on your bike and ride it..........get a good wrench and socket set /screwdrivers/allenwrenches and some good wrenching skills...........When it comes;-take off kickstand and remove both lower fairings and go put them somewhere safe.........and put kickstand back on

For the first week youll be fiddling with it;-adjusting it and wanting to make to go faster.......................

Plus these bikes dont have lube in the cables and the swingarm shock bushings and rear brake pedal pivot.............

The engine mounts will need to be tightened real good before even riding and the shifter and kickstarter need better grade hardware screws and loctite....

The clutch adjust area is gonna need disassembly/deburring and lubing for it to work buttery smooth.........it will not smooth out and wear in over time;-it will just wear out................and break

Take the time to learn about your bike and service it before you hop on and ride.......................Or youll be back asking where to get hardware and such...........................

Now the answer to your question is this.................Get Castrol 4T 4 Stroke 10w/40 motorcycle oil................Get 3 quarts because youre gonna be changing the oil alot....................Drain oil when you first get bike from the proper drain screw..............Dont remove the diagonal plug!!!!!!!!...Remove the 11/16 / 17mm cap on the engine bottom on same side as the filler plug.......

Drain out the fish oil in the crank that comes with the bike....Fill bike with half a quart.......Stand bike up level and off of kickstandstand ;-level and check stick.....Dont Check oil with bike leaning!!!!!!!!!!In the summer months keep the oil to the lower part of the crosshatches in the stick and in the cooler months a little higher..............................Dont use more than 65%of the quart ever...........Overfilling the crankcase will cause trans misshifts and clutch slip aswell as a slipping kickstarter.........................Peace
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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

o ok thanks and plz tell me i got to insure the bike so the cops dont take it away yes? and do i also have to register it?

would the cops take the bike if i started riding it about as soon as i got it with out insurnce with out regisration?
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Thats a big yes.........Its a 110cc bike..........NY law says for it to be classified as moped status it cant be any bigger than a 50cc engine...50cc mopeds dont require insurance but do require a plate and the rider to be 16 or over.

Thats a 110cc bike..........so a motorcycle endorsement is required and so is insurance and a helmet.........I pay $272/yr each for insurance on mine.

Theres no way to say its a 50cc either..........The vin#'s are traceable back to the real description in the database.....A couple of years ago you could of gotten away with it but not now......

The bike has to be totally reworked as far as lighting and dash instrumentation;-the gauge doesnt have an odometer so youre gonna have to get one for inspection records;-yes these things need to be inspected also.....NY doesnt consider the blinkers and bulbs to be dotk approved....youre gonna need led blinker mirrors........led bulbs in the turnsignal housings or led addons.....and brighter taillight brake light bulb.....and the headlight has to be made brighter

I have a X-15 my bike came headlight only and i added all the lighting and rewired the whole bike myself with the addition of a digital dash with odometer readout............................Peace
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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

1) so do i get my plates through the insurence?

2)can u plz give me a link to buy a odometer to put on the gauge

3) and link for
brighter taillight brake light bulb
led blinker mirrors..... led bulbs in the turning signal housings or led addons

and if i dont insure the bike and no plates nothing would they take the bike away or just give me a ticket?

thaNK you so much for all ur help

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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

2 cycle oil!
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2 cycle oil!


Heck no;- its a 4 stroke 110cc......................Castrol 4T4Stroke 10w/40
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Lol sorry =(
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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

np mwinter just dont do it anymore. Its not appreciated much.

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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

Cam does a 4-stroke need motor oil?

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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

what kind of question is that well im not gonna tell you but try this go to your car drain the oil and try to make it out of the driveway
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Cam does a 4-stroke need motor oil?
4 stroke gas automobiles and gas trucks use motor oil .................plus any gas engine without an internal wet clutch

4 stroke motorcycles use 4 Stroke motorcycle engine oil............they have wetclutches

4 stroke briggs engines use motor oil ........................they dont have internal wetclutches

2 stroke pocketbike engines use premix oil only

2 stroke dirtbikes uses both premix and wetclutch compatable gear oil or the same 4 stroke motorcycle wetclutch oil depending on year..........................

You can use 4 stroke motorcycle oil in a car/ gas.truck engine;- but you cant use car oil in a motorcycle..The motorcycle 4 stroke engine oil is better for cars than car oils............

My Mazda RX-7 rotary racing engine uses the premix below plus regular motor oil............................................

I hope this clears up the question added to X18's funny answer...............................Peace
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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

yo cam iv whent to about evry freaking gas station next to me to get that 4t oil u showed me and non of them have it!!! they dont have any 4 t oil. grrr

and i can put super gas in my x-18 right?

im about to order this oil this is the same kind like u showed me? Castrol Act>Evo GP 4T 10w-40 motorcycle 4 stroke engine oil

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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

R&S Strauss has 4 stroke motorcycle oil;-Pep Boys also.....its on the same shelf as the 2 stroke premix oils and the greases................You can get that other oil its good too...but find it in america

No you cannot put super gas into it unless you put a 24mm carb and jet it to run on it;-and run it on it always.;-just use 93 octane............Peace
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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

ay you should use 2 cycle oil and a 50-1 or 40-1 ratio!
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so can i just put 2 cycle oil into my x-18 it is better then sthe stock oil right? cuz my bike is coming very soon and i got no oil lol
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MOTOMASTER 2-cycle engine oil

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o ok thanks and plz tell me i got to insure the bike so the cops dont take it away yes? and do i also have to register it?

would the cops take the bike if i started riding it about as soon as i got it with out insurnce with out regisration?
Only if you dont live in south dakota.

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Re: just want to make sure what kind oil?

hehe well i just got my 12 volt bulbs in mail and i bought EXXON superflo 10w-40 motor oil

thats good right?
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No;- thats oil for a car................Go to the Motorcycle dealership and get the right stuff.............Youll kill the clutches real fast......................Peace
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