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Why no master link CAM? That being asked I just ordered up one of those tools! I've always got by with grinding the pin head followed by a punch and a master.
It eliminates a possible failure..Master link safety clasps fatigue and pop off at the craziest of times..

it also gives you better ease of use in shortening and lengthening chains too..

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Salute to CAM2, if its on the earth he can find it. I put 8mm chain on my C1 50cc water cooled Blata clone bike. 25h is around 750 ft lbs and 8mm is 1,200 ft. lbs, much stronger. Good call if your building horsepower, #25h chain is for stock bikes, lol.


Almost all highend racing pocketbikes come with highend #25 chain especially the Phantom...They use a Premier series #25 chain that has 990lbs of tensile strength per link...25h Premier series can handle over 1200lbs..

Most go with beefier replacements as a piece of mind and care less about performance so if you're not racing it makes perfect sense....

On a racing machine you want the lightest parts available and exactly why those things are in excess of $5 grand.......TF-8mm is nearly double the weight of a #25..Even sprockets and pinions weigh more too.

In order for Darkhorse to get more takeoff power he could just get an 11tth transmission sprocket and shorten the chain.

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Luckily I tried the heat right after I posted and got the rest of those butter head screws out. Bought another easyout and was able to remove the broken ones without screwing up the threads. I have since gone through and replaced as many of them with gr. 8 hardware as I could. Good to know on the reed engine, glad I asked before I tried to change anything. Once again, you the man cam2.👍 Also glad I researched the chain differences before ordering any gears. Epr saved the day on that one and going by that and a comment from cam2 early on, I am changing over to the tf8 chain. I think its called that. Currently I have the lame bicycle chain setup so its in my best interest to switch over. I am thinking of sacrificing a few mpg topend for a little more pull off the line. I crossdrilled the clutch shoes but where are you guys finding stiffer springs for the two shoe setup? Id like to get a little closer to the powerband before it engages. Hats off to you fellas for the help and more so the patience.
Did you do the rocket key set advanced?

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Luckily I tried the heat right after I posted and got the rest of those butter head screws out. Bought another easyout and was able to remove the broken ones without screwing up the threads. I have since gone through and replaced as many of them with gr. 8 hardware as I could. Good to know on the reed engine, glad I asked before I tried to change anything. Once again, you the man cam2.👍 Also glad I researched the chain differences before ordering any gears. Epr saved the day on that one and going by that and a comment from cam2 early on, I am changing over to the tf8 chain. I think its called that. Currently I have the lame bicycle chain setup so its in my best interest to switch over. I am thinking of sacrificing a few mpg topend for a little more pull off the line. I crossdrilled the clutch shoes but where are you guys finding stiffer springs for the two shoe setup? Id like to get a little closer to the powerband before it engages. Hats off to you fellas for the help and more so the patience.
Heres the process I do to my chains after I wire wheel them and hit them with metal polish....

I mainly use a continuous link chain unless I need an offset link because master links always break at the worst time. Any chain manufacturer will tell you the weakest link on the chain is the master link.

To oil the chain, take it off and clean it with WD-40 and an air hose. I don’t like to use brake cleaner, solvent or gasoline because these will contaminate the oil bath.

Put the chain in a coffee can with 3" of 30wt automotive oil AND a 1/2 of a cube of paraffin wax that you can buy at the grocery store. There will be three cubes in the box, only use 1/2 of one cube.

Put coffee can with oil and 1/2 of a wax cube in a frying pan with a 1/2” of water in the bottom of the frying pan which acts then like a double boiler so we do not have direct heat on the coffee can.

Now place the can with the chain on the stove with the heat turned up to medium or around 180 degrees fahrenheit for 10 to 15 minutes then turn the heat off.

The heat will cause the air to come to the surface of the oil. The space around the pin and roller link will be replaced by oil. The paraffin wax when it melts will act like a seal to keep the oil around the pin in the chain and seal the oil into the bushing.

Take the chain out of the hot oil after it has soaked for at least 20 minutes total and let the oil and wax drip back into the can to reuse for repeating the same process on other chains.

When ithe chain has cooled down there is no need to wipe the chain off just mount the chain back on the vehicle and you are ready to use it..

I also do this process to store extra chains in ziplock vacuum freezer bags..

It also works killer on bronze bushings and roller bearings too...……...

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That definitely sounds like it would be a better way to maintenance your chain. I will be trying that too. Your rtv-grease tip worked like a champ. Forks feel much better for what they are. Maybe I can find a set off something else without too much modification of the triple tree. I saw a few sets that were hydraulic for pit bikes and such. I will measure em and keep my eyes open. I couldn't make up my mind on the chain so I ordered a few pinion and rim sprockets in both chain sizes and a chunk of each chain. Except I went with 415 instead of 25This way I can geek out on it get the combo that feels best for me, lol. Got the 415 on the stock sprockets for now while I wait on the rest of the stuff. Haven't tried it yet but it seems to be good.
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She is beautiful, better than new. Whats the OD of your fork tubes 28mm?? I believe I have X7 4 stroke hydraulic front forks here 2 sets. I have whole X7 front hydraulic fork set up and rear arms w/ new 8" rims and tires, and hydraulic brakes front and rear that I never used. also whole Cateye front forks less wheels, and rear arms w/ jackshaft also. I just found 2 new X7 8" wide racing slick, try finding them now, lol.

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Hmm, you selling em? Id definitely buy a set from you if you are. I like how the front feels but there is always room for improvement. 8in rims? very interesting. I originally planned on keeping it as stock looking as possible so it'd be a good sleeper bike but since I had to fiddle with enough of it, that idea has gone out the window. So I am going the other direction now and to he77 with stock looking, lol. Ive always had good luck with my Frankenstein builds. Does yours still have good takeoff with those wheels? Is there any way to get it to roast the tire off the line? Im much more intrested in getting as much jump from a stop as possible.
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Switched out the cheesy headlights for these. Made a bracket to fit them and if I switch the side of the bracket I mount them to then they will fit the plastics like stock. Changed blinkers and tail too. Leds are better imo.
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I have some LED lights I bought for my X18. You must have bought an LED blinker boxes too, right. Don't have an X7 bike, only the parts I talked about for a project that was never started. The big problem is that it cost so much to ship anything big and or heavy.

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That definitely sounds like it would be a better way to maintenance your chain. I will be trying that too. Your rtv-grease tip worked like a champ. Forks feel much better for what they are. Maybe I can find a set off something else without too much modification of the triple tree. I saw a few sets that were hydraulic for pit bikes and such. I will measure em and keep my eyes open. I couldn't make up my mind on the chain so I ordered a few pinion and rim sprockets in both chain sizes and a chunk of each chain. Except I went with 415 instead of 25This way I can geek out on it get the combo that feels best for me, lol. Got the 415 on the stock sprockets for now while I wait on the rest of the stuff. Haven't tried it yet but it seems to be good.


They have an X6 and X8 4 stroke model..Those models come with hydraulic front forks and front caliper.They're pretty much a plug n play swap out for what you have if you can fins fork clamps too as all 4 strokers come with 26mm fork tubes........

On the X1/X2/X3 the front wheels are 8" and the rear are 9"

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-PAIR-OF...T/292116905968

Im pretty sure the Yamaha PW50 aftermarket front forks are 22mm..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-PW50...-/380401785677


I see when you installed that nice pretty Regina Chain you used a masterlink...

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Epr, shoot I'dve bought em off you if you were gonna sell them but you are right about shipping charges. No I didn't change out the blinker box, it just worked when I tried it. And cam2 thanks for the heads up. Now I don't have to measure and search to upgrade the suspension. Also, yes I did the rocket key install when I clipped the fins on the flywheel. Got another intake mani and drilled, tapped for boost bottle but haven't had too much luck on finding the perfect container for the bottle yet. Side note I slapped together a stand so itll be easier to work on. Not bad for a 30 min sidetrack, lol.
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Epr, shoot I'dve bought em off you if you were gonna sell them but you are right about shipping charges. No I didn't change out the blinker box, it just worked when I tried it. And cam2 thanks for the heads up. Now I don't have to measure and search to upgrade the suspension. Also, yes I did the rocket key install when I clipped the fins on the flywheel. Got another intake mani and drilled, tapped for boost bottle but haven't had too much luck on finding the perfect container for the bottle yet. Side note I slapped together a stand so itll be easier to work on. Not bad for a 30 min sidetrack, lol.
That's a pretty nice looking stand....I make my stands out of wood..Theyre heavy and absorb vibrations..

Cali to Cali shipping shouldnt be too bad.....For local shipping I use greyhound...LOL

Vinyl hose an air chuck male end, hose clamp and a Co2 BB gun container..


You do know that those engines run in reverse[?] and the transmission makes the bike roll forwards which makes the advance setting installation with the raised step going to the left when looking at the crank.

Took out my homemade R/C buggy with heavily modded 49cc engine with FCC and CDI ignition mod yesterday...Thing ran phenomenal with the rebuilt 17mm Tillotson carb.

The front rims and tires kept cracking and blowing tubes due to the front inflateable tires so I took the solid filled rear tires off my invacare Lynx LX-3 invalid trike project...I should've done the swap long ago as it was entirely the best decision Ive made since building it....




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The guy that bought my new X2 CVT lived in Canada, I told him about shipping costs 16lbs, in a USPS if it fits it ships anywhere in the USA for $13.85. It was $47.50 to Canada, so I gave him $10 off. It cost me $6.35 for a 4" x 4" X 4" box, 4oz. with Cag piston to England, 3 years ago, lol.

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The guy that bought my new X2 CVT lived in Canada, I told him about shipping costs 16lbs, in a USPS if it fits it ships anywhere in the USA for $13.85. It was $47.50 to Canada, so I gave him $10 off. It cost me $6.35 for a 4" x 4" X 4" box, 4oz. with Cag piston to England, 3 years ago, lol.
Yeah I hear ya...Everythings getting more expensive with the USPS mainly due to drug addicted mail carriers doing defuncted things the US post office has to make good on to those screwed over...

When I sold my two SSR pitbikes the guy who bought them lived in New Hampshire..Costed the guy $250 bux to ship both bikes to himself through his company account...He gave me an extra $150.00 to mount them both on a properly sized skid with ratchet straps with a lil protection aswell as palletwrap and deliver them to the freight terminal.......LOL

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We have private people hired by USPS to bring are mail, a bunch of clowns, one trying to deliver with a left hand steering car. My mail box has a back door, I had a bunch of small pocket bike parts packages, the guy just kept shoving boxes in and some were falling out the back. Then last month some guy with a gun was looking for the mailman, guy must have been visiting his wife, took 3 days to get our mail after that, lol.

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We have private people hired by USPS to bring are mail, a bunch of clowns, one trying to deliver with a left hand steering car. My mail box has a back door, I had a bunch of small pocket bike parts packages, the guy just kept shoving boxes in and some were falling out the back. Then last month some guy with a gun was looking for the mailman, guy must have been visiting his wife, took 3 days to get our mail after that, lol.
Thats funny....Yeah some mail carriers get themselves in deep...lol

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Epr, shoot I'dve bought em off you if you were gonna sell them but you are right about shipping charges. No I didn't change out the blinker box, it just worked when I tried it. And cam2 thanks for the heads up. Now I don't have to measure and search to upgrade the suspension. Also, yes I did the rocket key install when I clipped the fins on the flywheel. Got another intake mani and drilled, tapped for boost bottle but haven't had too much luck on finding the perfect container for the bottle yet. Side note I slapped together a stand so itll be easier to work on. Not bad for a 30 min sidetrack, lol.
Ive even slapped on the whole front fork assembly with fork clamps from a PW80..I made a quick n easy caliper bracket and drilled n tapped into the fork leg then used epoxy to set the screws..

This is the X100R Dragbike when it was in its early stages...It was a lil bit different...When my Thermaltake with 6 harddrives melted down in 2009 I lost about 12 gigs of pics n videos that couldnt be recovered............

The purpose was to built a superlight dragbike for my nephew...A stock XR100 is like 165lbs w/o rider..This thing was like 108lbs

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Wanna another nephew? Lol, jk ya I used a master link. It was getting late and the boss(mrs) was calling. I will go back and change it out. I have that same chain breaker you left the link for but never had much luck getting the pin pressed back in. It works great getting the links apart but it's a bit of a fight vise versa u know? Epr I didn't know you were in so cal? Sooo you thinking about selling those forks? Where in cali do you live? I thought you were east coast like cam the man. If you are ever in the area Id def buy a couple of rounds. I live in whittier, its a suburb of LA. But always getting around, we camp all over the place and my friends and family are spread out pretty wide across the state. Im on the hunt for a beat up pit bike that I can "cam-inize" to drag along when we camp just to putt around on. I extended my rear bumper on our pop up camper to hold my crf. But itd be easier with a smaller bike. Not like I ever mx it on our trips so a pit bike would be better. That and I think its high time my son puts the game controller down and starts to learn real life experiences. My daughter already has some basic skills and will probably whoop his butt. She shows interest in mechanics and like her mom says when she pulls a digger and laughs it off..."yep she is definitely like her dad". Little girl has no fear which worries me, lol. Heres a few from the kern river. I love anything outside and especially fast...just maybe not cam fast.lol
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I know the area well, I grew up in Long Beach, Ca. Then San Jose, then The Russian River, north of San Francisco, west of Santa Rosa. I am selling a bunch of stuff this Spring and Summer, I have to much stuff, lol. I am to injured to ride my ZX-1 Extreme dirt bike now, its a 4 stroke 110cc 4 speed manual, hand clutch. has the big valve head 25/23, stock 23/20mm. Has a 25mm carb and hp CDI and coil. I ride my Coolster 125cc Quad ATV now, lol. My 14 yr old twin boys spend way to much time online. Might sell my X18R Nitro too.
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I think I just drooled a little on my phone lol. She sure is pretty, bet that wasn't cheap. Well when you go to sell Id possibly buy some of it. If you don't mind, keep me in the loop, if you aren't too far I might make a mission to save us from drug addict mail carriers. Personally I think they should legalize all drugs. It sounds crazy but the way I see it, if they are dumb enough to use than they are more than likely to be dumb enough to kill themselves on it... natural selection? I know it isn't right but I see things that just aren't right all the time. I normally avoid discussing religion, politics and such because no matter who you are or what you believe, there is someone who thinks differently and most people can't accept that you don't see things like they do. I tell everyone that I respect their beliefs but don't try to force your views down my throat. One of the main reasons I love this country other than the right to bear arms is freedom of speech and expression. If you want to worship mickey freakin mouse...have at it chief. Me? I reserve judgment. Hope I haven't offended anyone...if I have, well, I apologize, now get over it. Going to test and tune today... no whammies, no whammies! One more question (until the next one) is a schwinn speedo still the best option for getting an accurate reading of my speed or do you guys know a better route? Thanks pocket bike guru and mad scientist of racing. You can decide whos who.
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