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Hello need some help on identifying a bike

I bought this bike it says zoom and the serial number starts with q40. This is my first pocket bike it has no battery and no pull starter. My question what exactly does the battery do? Do you need the battery to start it if you have a pull start? Does the batter just run the lights and speedometer? It has a kill switch on it and the wire goes to the top of the motor will the kill switch still work without a battery please help I am a noob for this kind motor
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Re: Hello need some help on identifying a bike

Make 2 more posts and then attach some photos.

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Here are some pictures please let me know what I have ive been researching cant find the brand zoom anywhere I have looked on PBB and some people are saying its a cateye
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Re: Hello need some help on identifying a bike

Yeah Piston Port engine. Cateye or x1, maybe x7. Here are parts you can get for this bike. Here is a big parts page from a very reputable dealer.

https://www.pocketbikeparts.com/shop...-fs509-cat-eye

EPR knows a lot about those engines. Also looks like someone changed the carb.

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Okay sweet thank you helps me out a lot on buying parts all the wires were cut so Oma have to buy a wiring harness if I want lights and everything to work
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Only thing I don't see on that site is a wire harness which I'm going to need do you know where I can find a wire harness
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It's a Cateye, where many Chinese factories making similar look bikes, But the wheels, forks, rear arms and engine and other parts are the same.
Best tires I have ever seen on a cat. I like the front forks and handle bar clip, nice and solid. Good luck on finding a wiring harness. 15 years ago that engine was a backpack blower engine. Some Nut said lets put it in a Pocket Bike, lol. It's a fancy chainsaw engine, it runs on its own. All you need is Gas&Oil a kill button and a new starter cover w/ rope. It has an alum Generator/Starter housing w/4 brushes, 2 to start the engine and 2 to make 13.7v AC and run thru a voltage rectifier to make DC, run thru a 10 amp fuse then the battery starts and runs the lights. That carb is some kind clone Walbro, looks like it is sideways, but it also looks factory.
I would just get it running first if you can. On eBay you can get a new starter pawl and rope cover for $10. The you can try to rope start it. Poor a little gas down the carb, pull the rope and see what happens, then you go from there. I have 15 bikes, so its a full time job just keeping them running, lol. Here is a stock engine and highly modified engine.
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File Type: jpg Modified 49cc Piston Port Engine2.jpg (412.4 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg Modified 49cc Piston Port Engine3.jpg (462.5 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg Gold Head 49cc PP Engine1.jpg (511.7 KB, 6 views)
File Type: jpg Gold Head 49cc PP Engine3.jpg (429.5 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg Red Head PP Engine4.jpg (375.7 KB, 5 views)

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Okay sweet thank you for the info yea I just ordered the pull starter and cover just to make it fancy but thats all i ordered for now just to see if it runs I know its not ceased so thats good lol. I know its prolly not worth it but im going to mod this bike as much as I can just because I got this bike for super cheap lol
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Re: Hello need some help on identifying a bike

If I wanted to put a brand new motor on it what would you reccomend?
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http://www.amazon.com/2-STROKE-PERFO.../dp/B00OBVR8T0

I found this motor is this a good motor?
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No you could save the $150 from buying that new motor and make your original one WAY more powerful than that motor would ever be stock.

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First of all, that is the wrong engine, that goes in a MT-A1 Cagllari Daytona pocket rocket. Your bike is bigger a Mid-Bike. That is a reed port engine, you need a 49cc piston port engine. You bike's flywheel, clutch & transmission, are on the right side of the bike. The reed port Cag drives off the left side. Would take too much work to make it work. The 49cc P/P is a bigger and better engine anyway in my opinion, P/P is 40mm x 34mm 49cc, and the 44mm x 32mm R/P A2 46ccs engine.
I am putting the Gold head, just built, highly modified 49cc P/P engine up for sale. Going to post photo of the engines, $250 shipped, complete, ready to run. Custom fitted piston, flywheel w/ rocket key, Modified & lightened clutch w/ hp spring. I can tap the intake for a boost fitting, and mount the barbed fitting for free. Can give you a choice of carbs and air filter. It has a 44mm chopped cyld I got from CAM2, everyone here knows about his porting & crazy fast engines and bikes, even RC trucks and boats, it has 13:1 alum alloy Cag hp head. Took months to modify and hand build & fit each part this engine. Took more than 60 hrs, @ $25 an hr.= a few months and $1,500 labor, not counting new parts, lol. Raising money to by my new 40 or 50cc water cooled Polini engine for my Euro avatar GRC GP1 racing bike. Going to sell some other engines too, and pocket bikes this spring locally. Have a 49cc reed port Cag engine, modified by Boosted306, has 3rd wide upper cyld port, and side transfer ports enlarged and shaped.
Complete ready to rock and roll, $200 shipped. All my stuff comes with tech support for Life, like have a mechanic on call, lol.

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Wrong engine, you need a piston port, That gold head and red head engines are the one you need. The highly modified gold one is going up for sale, just finished, ready to rock & roll, lol. Will post photos of the completed engine soon. $250 shipped USPS w/ tracking. Got three times the $250 or more labor into it alone, not counting all the new parts. All the parts are hand fitted, weeks of work to complete. My guess is 6 plus horse power.

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Okay I will think about it. buying a performance engine is taking out all the fun of doing it myself lol.
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If you want to do it yourself that's good too, lots of posts on modifying all the parts of the engine and bike.

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Did you ever find out about what the battery does? and its not electric start?
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stock they have electric start it's a novelty and one of the first thing that breaks down most people remove it and leave the battery and blinkers, and they just recharge the battery with a charger since the electric starter is also the generator.

Others are kind of weird and pickey, and they are obsessed with keeping everything working this kind of people will goto complete frustration changing out the starter/generator that has brushes that quickly were out after only 3 to 12 hrs of engine running time and repairing the cheap Chinese wiring harness that is made out of the worst CCA wire (copper coated aluminum) that breaks from vibration and dealing with the connectors that rust and corrode just from the moisture in the air not to mention the other problems with the solenoid charging regulator the safety switch in the brake levers and yes even problems with the button in the grip.

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stock they have electric start its a noviltey and one of the first thing that brakes down most people remove it and leave the battery and blinkers and they just recharge the battery with a charger sence the electric starter is allso the generator.


others are kind of weird and pickey and they are obsessed with keeping everything working these kind of people will goto complete frustration changing out the starter/generator that has brushes that quickly where out after onley 3 to 12 hrs of engine running time and repairing the cheap Chinese wiring harness that is made out of the worst CCA wire ( copper coated aluminum ) that brakes from vibration and dealing with the connectors that rust and corrode just from the moisture in the air not to mention the other problems with the solenoid charging regulator the safety switch in the brake levers and yes even problems with the button in the grip
The wiring is made of recycled wire...the sheathing is very weak and melts easily when a heavy load draw happens....

The connector tabs are made of copper/brass coated tin which causes problems with the way it makes connection contact....

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