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Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

So here is a thread where it is ok to actually discuss street riding, we are looking for opinions, ideas, insight, etc...

No fighting, no flaming, lets keep it clean.

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Re: Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

I'll start...

one of my concerns is not being seen by vehicles that often miss full size motorcycles, and sometimes even full size cars.

Another negative issue, is noise in neighborhoods.

Plus, I don't like to leave the ownership status of my little bikes up to chance, which in most parts of California is what street riding can cause.

Lets here what you all think!

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Re: Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

Are 4 strokes much quieter than 2 strokes?
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I live in a VERY quiet neighborhood out in Pima County (Arizona). On occasion, yes, I have ridden my scooters and bikes up and down the street. My neighbors don't mind, since I keep it to a minimum of a ride or two every few days, plus the kids get a kick out of seeing me cruise by. However, this silll doesn't discount the fact that what I am doing is technically illegal.

Look, it happens, okay? You've just finished a couple of mods on your bike, the closest parking lot is a few miles away, but your street in front of your house is right there, right? No one's going to catch you - you're too slick and too cool to be caught. Bottom line here is, it's still illegal.

These bikes were not meant for the streets. The Cags and midbikes just aren't big enough to be seen easily, especially over the hood of a jacked-up truck or SUV. (Do ya really want to go through life with a backwards Chevy emblem mashed into your forehead, if you manage to survive at all?)

I am lucky enough to live within reasonable distance of several large parking lots and a racetrack. The owners of a nearby motorcycle shop let me ride there whenever I want, and the track lets me know when they're open. (Going there tonight, in fact ...)

Some articles I pulled up, just on a general search:
"Pocket" bikes drive new debate and laws - MassCops
WORTH NOTING - WORTH NOTING - Police Departments Converge Over Pocket Bike Problem - NYTimes.com
Pocket bike 49cc Was towed today -Police gave tickets in Arizona? - Yahoo! Answers
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Teen Without Helmet Dies in 'Pocket Bike' Crash While Evading Police - Hits Pothole, Falls; Friends Blame Police - Law Enforcement News
Father and son injured in pocket bike accident | abc30.com
Pocket Bikes Cause Concern For Police - Kansas City News Story - KMBC Kansas City
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Re: Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

Even with the "loud" pipes on them, (I think) most all 4-strokes are quite a bit quieter than 2-strokes...

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Re: Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

having rode both bikes now i can say that the pocketbikes are just too small and slow to be rode on the street, however i think they should fall under the neighborhood toy law where you can ride it around your house as long as its not a major road, and then its just regular laws like the 25mph hood speed limit, things like that
the midbikes on the other hand are for more adept at street life and if modded correctly can be a regular commuter on busy roads with no issues, ya ive had a lady almost merge me out of existance but then again she prolly would have done the same thing if i would have been on a harley, you have to be a real motorcyclist to ride in the street, and i put that responsability on myself

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Re: Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

Nice post Blitz, I like that reasoning!

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Lance Armstrong rides his bicycle past my house with his 16 buddies 3 wide hogging the highway. Did not see any licence plates or Reg, when I asked him if he had insurance he flip me off. But when they hear my Magnum V8 at 6 thousand RPMs they move over.
Can't see why I can't ride my X18 or 49cc scooter, the cops are pretty loose about 4 wheel ATVs and stuff as long as your not racing, which leaves me out. But, There not taking me Alive,lol,lol.

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My friends son gets pulled over in a school zone by a cop on his Aero50 for doing 28 in a 20 on his way to school.........While he was receiving his ticket from the cop at the car a guy goes whipping by on a bike and gets radared at 33 mph...My friend says whats the deal with that.....The cop says "hes saving the environment and deserves a break"......

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My cousins in So. California are cops, we got stopped in the desert going 95 in a BMW. When, the HP found out he was an officer, he said Slow Down. If it was me or you, Big Ticket. this HP officer up the road I talked to one day, said he is not giving tickets to his neighbors, which is a smart thing.

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My friends son gets pulled over in a school zone by a cop on his Aero50 for doing 28 in a 20 on his way to school.........While he was receiving his ticket from the cop at the car a guy goes whipping by on a bike and gets radared at 33 mph...My friend says whats the deal with that.....The cop says "hes saving the environment and deserves a break"......
That post actually made me sad Cam!

Lets make a Toyota Prius pocket bike that is hybrid, and then like on Southpark, we can ride around all smug, knowing we are better than everyone else...

Sorry that cop was weird!

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Re: Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

I honestly think they should be legal.

C'mon, there basically toys aren't they. I live in Hollis, NY. Sort of a quiet neighborhood, but there's lots of kids with there Honda Civics, integra's etc making noise.

On my block there's about 12 kids with pocket bikes. Some with cags, X1/X2's, X17's all that. And most of these kids including myself understand not to do stupid crap when on these bikes. It should be legal .. I mean let the owners of pocket bikes decide whether its safe for themselves to ride in private property or on the street .. the state just needs to legalize it .. feel me ?

& me I live farrrrrrr from an empty parking lot. I bring my bike out every weekend for a stroll up & down the block ..

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Yeah okay, we all did it before... ride around the neighborhood once or twice. Whats the big deal? sure there a little loud, but its not like your going to hear it inside the houses. As for legal issues, i think little enduros are the most legal fun riding on the street.

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2 strokes are significantly louder when you're standing right next to them. However, 4 strokes engine noise carries much further. As far as riding them, I take mine around the neighborhood every once in a while or ride outside the warehouse I work at with permission. There's aren't many tracks in Baltimore, just Sandy Hook and it's only open to midbikes like once a month.

The upshot is, since I live in Baltimore 96% of the time the cops have something better to do than bust a dude riding a midbike for a few minutes on a Saturday afternoon.
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I live in mass and the law states that they don't recognize scooters or pocket bikes (anything under 50cc) and the law states you can legally ride it on the main roads at a speed no greater than 20 mph and must be 16 years or older and have a valid mass drivers license and must wear a *** approved helmet and use all hand directions even if the vehicle has lights on it

So I mass u don't need to register them or get a sticker just have a license and don't be stupid oh and they can only be automatic no standard shift its all on mass.org

As for my bike I am in a dilemma because I have a 110cc x-19 that me and my daughter ride around the hood and lot down the street no one minds but I want to register it and have begun doing all necessary mods to make it legal I have done tires legal directionals and a brighter tail light and plate bracket now when I bring it down they now say oh ya you need a legal odometer and they say the vapor won't do because they think I may be able to reset the mileage so once I have the registry inspectors approval the whole title thing may cause another problem I have the coo but all it says is the vin the model as numbers not any type and the weight and under cyl it just says 4 stroke so its not complete who knows if they will accept it or not
I am not looking to commute with this thing just don't want to get stopped in the hood or parking lot and have it impounded sorry so long just looking to add on this subject for mass if u have any questions on what's legal for a motorcycle here I can explain everything they want on the bike and restrictions they have at least for a motorcycle anything under a 50 cc is technically legal with a mass license and helmet

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I looked into making my X18 road legal, just real tires alone is $200 and then blinkers and a real headlight and tail light, & on & on. It would be cheaper to buy a good used legal bike, and you might live longer,lol,lol.

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I looked into making my X18 road legal, just real tires alone is $200 and then blinkers and a real headlight and tail light, & on & on. It would be cheaper to buy a good used legal bike, and you might live longer,lol,lol.
real tires are 62.00 shipped for legal tires front and rear together lights are 53.00 for decent ones well signals and taillight was 15.00 I am Just having problem with the headlight looking good and the whole odometer thing total I have spent so far is 150.00 minus the 200.00 I spent on a vapor that they said the odometer could be changed but legality wise just 150 I could spend 50 on a cheap speedo/odometer mechanical style but for 200 you can def make it street legal as for actually commuting with it I would do better brakes and suspension and would need a lot more power
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Re: Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

You know, that is a good point, too little power can be dangerous! If and when something is "headed right at us!"

I had not put much thought in to that portion of the possible problems.

Thanks for bringing that point up!

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real tires are 62.00 shipped for legal tires front and rear together lights are 53.00 for decent ones well signals and taillight was 15.00 I am Just having problem with the headlight looking good and the whole odometer thing total I have spent so far is 150.00 minus the 200.00 I spent on a vapor that they said the odometer could be changed but legality wise just 150 I could spend 50 on a cheap speedo/odometer mechanical style but for 200 you can def make it street legal as for actually commuting with it I would do better brakes and suspension and would need a lot more power

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You know, that is a good point, too little power can be dangerous! If and when something is "headed right at us!"

I had not put much thought in to that portion of the possible problems.

Thanks for bring that point up!

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Ya you don't want to be like that guy on the ten speed in spandex in the front of the line at a set of lights acting like a car and when the light turns green your waiting for him to move his *** over I HATE THOSE GUYS lol
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Re: Pocket Bikes: Street Legal Or Not?

all i gta say bout the noise.........
when the landscapers in my neighborhood start there chainsaws and weed whackers at 6am wheres the complaints???????
at least i ride at a reasonable time......
and im pretty sure my bikes quieter!!!!!!!!!!!
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