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Did some fab work for the friend of a friend and got some more CAG's in trade. I wonder where this is gonna end? lol. One's a "race ready" reed valve with a 2 piece jug and there's a pair of piston ports in the deal too.


Got a different flywheel on the "race" reed that probably needs a different starter. It's got an aluminum cover which I like, but the recoil mech is MIA. Pic




My original motor had a plastic starter cover that gave me so much grief I won't be going there again. Pic.




Another difference of note is I don't see any threaded holes for a puller on the new flywheel. What's the deal with that?
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Did some fab work for the friend of a friend and got some more CAG's in trade. I wonder where this is gonna end? lol. One's a "race ready" reed valve with a 2 piece jug and there's a pair of piston ports in the deal too.


Got a different flywheel on the "race" reed that probably needs a different starter. It's got an aluminum cover which I like, but the recoil mech is MIA. Pic




My original motor had a plastic starter cover that gave me so much grief I won't be going there again. Pic.




Another difference of note is I don't see any threaded holes for a puller on the new flywheel. What's the deal with that?
Your right that dual ratchet setup is a PITA....

Nice looking engine ...How many extra ports does the cylinder have...?

Whats the squish setting for which it was built and the compression numbers...?

Knowing the engine specific especially the port timing gives an indication at guestimating its power...…..

Did the guy you got it from buy it built already,,actually build it,, or just simply assemble it?

On the piston ported engnes,,,Do you know if theyre 44mm or 40mm?...I myself prefer the 40mm but if theyre 44mm its cool too......

As far as removing the flywheel you need a steering wheel puller...

On that dual ratchet flywheel youre gonna have to drill and tap two holes to remove it in the spots designated for them but weren't drilled/tapped by the manufacturer.....

Its kind of like a deterrent to disassembling the engine or having the person doing the disassembly to go an extra step....

Some would try to use a 3-4 jaw puller too and the dudes on youtube would suggest loosening the bolt and whacking the end of the screw with a hammer putting unneeded stress on the crank ...not me...LOL

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Did some fab work for the friend of a friend and got some more CAG's in trade. I wonder where this is gonna end? lol. One's a "race ready" reed valve with a 2 piece jug and there's a pair of piston ports in the deal too.


Got a different flywheel on the "race" reed that probably needs a different starter. It's got an aluminum cover which I like, but the recoil mech is MIA. Pic




My original motor had a plastic starter cover that gave me so much grief I won't be going there again. Pic.




Another difference of note is I don't see any threaded holes for a puller on the new flywheel. What's the deal with that?
Also on the flywheel in picture #1 one of the hp wngine with the flywheel with the spring loaded flick levers ,

One lever is installed totally wrong like its made for an engine that rotates the opposite way......…

Theyre both supposed to angle towards the center and when you install the pullstarter you lightly pull the pullrope as youre pushing it on to set it in order to get the spring loaded flick levers to flick to the side enough to get the pawl in there..............

When I make a referrence to those types of pullstarter combos I refer to them as chainsaw type pullstarters/flywheels..

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Popped the 2-piece jug off for a look and found a very fresh little motor, which kinda surprised me because rotating the flywheel didn't seem to produce a lot of compression. By comparison pulling the rope on the 1st piston port means holding it down! Got some pop on that one.

But the reed motor looks real good. Here's the cylinder;



I have no way of knowing but that looks like an extra port up the back wall to me. Would this be a 5 port?

Got no idea where the squish was set but I'll be setting it myself at some point. I've done that before. Center plug heads are a piece of cake. FWIW, it does have a basegasket, which I may want to eliminate? The gasket does stick out into the transfer areas just a bit and how well the cases match is something else I'll be looking at.

On port timing the degree wheel must be at my brother's house. I can't find it! But I will want to know some day. Learning how to build expansion chambers is another item on the bucket list.

Compression ratio is an unknown altho I have been known the cc a combustion chamber or two. We'll know someday. Here's a pic of the head if anybody can ID;





Almost no carbon. Maybe the lack of compression is because it ain't even broke in yet? I dunno.

I had assumed someone put a "Big Bore" kit on so I was expecting to find a full circle crank ... but no. It's got a half! Having total respect for CAM's experience and being thankful for having access to it, I'll be using that crank. If it had been an FCC I would've scrounged the HCC outa the other motor.

But for now I'll smear some 2-stroke oil on the rings and button it back up. I still got a bicycle to build.
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First, there is no Big Bore kit, cause if you have a 44mm cyld 49cc reed port engine its already 44mm. With that 3 port cyld & alum alloy head gives you and more compression than stock. The first Cags had a what's called a 47cc / 40mm bore 32mm stroke and 10mm pin piston. The one piece big bore kit for that engine was 44mm piston w/ 10mm pin.
Then the real 49cc / 44mm bore cyld engine came out with a heavier crank and 12mm pin piston.
That head gasket looks like a problem to me, might not be sealing right. Not a good idea to put silicone or what ever that is around round copper gasket. Looks like the guy just put it together. If any of that black stuff breaks off into the cyld, you will have big problems. I would remove that gasket and clean everything. Best gasket sealer in my book is Permatex copper head gasket spray in a can. Its great for heat transfer and it dries very sticky, never had a leak with it, use on paper and copper gaskets.

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Pretty cool...like EPR said it looks like it's just assembled and assembled pretty poorly...Im sure you have heard of a process called "Lapping the valves...?...Well in this 2 stroke Chinese tomfoolery of hp bolt-ons you have to do a process called lapping the cylinder to the cap....

You cannot take for granted the top lip is 100% flat and if you do theres a high probability of things going wrong....

Just rolling the engine on a 44mm cylinder yields nothing especially when there's a decompression notch casted in...Meaning if you roll it slow youll allow more compression to escape as the piston travels upwards over the notch..

You'll only feel compression rolling an engine slowly that has a decompression notch when you get the squish in the .030 - 035" range...…[175-200psi]



Last time I did a squish calculation on a bunch of 1pc cylinders they had the squish ranged between .059" and .065"

The 2 pc split channel 3rd port cylinder with basegasket and copper gasket installed the squish ranged between .052" and .060"...



Performance starts at .045".....That's where Sam (boosted306) set the squishband of the cylinder he used to modify for members ....

I run my engines at .030" for 2pc and for the 1pc I get them down to .045"...






You can see your squishband is pretty wide seeings that big squeezeout of JBWeld didn't even make contact with the piston at TDC.....

You can download and print a degree wheel on 49ccscooter.com....I use a simple old modified protractor....

When I blew up the picture of the 2pc cylinder cap I see what appears to be jb weld sealing it which would also attribute to it not having much runtime seeings it probably didn't run very good to start with..

There's a certain way the copper sealing ring needs to be oriented in order to seal right. ..Theyre die-stamped so if you know what happens as a result of diestamping copper that's kinda as hard as beryllium copper

The copper ring that's installed in the red cap is 180 degrees flipped the wrong way....

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more then likely the head is leaking looks like the last person had a problem with sealing the head.

then you have to ask yourself

1 dose this piston really fit this cylinder

2 dose the rings fit the cylinder defentley check your ring gap

3 whats going on with the head sealing looks like someone was haveing a problem...

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I have no way of knowing but that looks like an extra port up the back wall to me. Would this be a 5 port?
No this is a 5 port............



With those split port transfer port cylinders...Those dividers retract from the area for where the fuel needs to flow so just by adding that 3rd port would just raise the flow volume to be equal to a cylinder without them and no boost port channel.......Those dividers also create turbulence...You don't want turbulence inside a 2 stroke engine...You want whats called velocity......

This is a 4 port with split transfers....


This os a 3 port that had split transfers but were dremelled out......



Heres what the headcap looks like on one of my worn out 2pc 5port engines built and tuned with a 19mm DelOrtto rep carb after being severely abused for like 25-30 hours...


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De-compression notch? That's what that little slot above the exhaust port is for! lol. I'm learnin'.


And Thank You for the pic of the 5 port CAM. I understand now. Would it be a good idea to remove the divider between the split ports? I'm not looking to start with an all out assault weapon. I got a feelin' that'll come later tho... lol. But it's best to walk before you run and they're so easy to work on I can see the need for a few.



Really, right now I'm looking at both these reed motors as piles of parts to start and learn with. I need to make various pullers and adapters for my case assembly tools. Plugs for pressure testing. A 10mm thread to spin a head up on my lathe. A bicycle to put it on .....



And Thanx to everyone for your responses. I got a lotta 2 stroke dirt bike experience but these tool motors are a whole new deal for me. I'm listening ....
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De-compression notch? That's what that little slot above the exhaust port is for! lol. I'm learnin'.


And Thank You for the pic of the 5 port CAM. I understand now. Would it be a good idea to remove the divider between the split ports? I'm not looking to start with an all out assault weapon. I got a feelin' that'll come later tho... lol. But it's best to walk before you run and they're so easy to work on I can see the need for a few.



Really, right now I'm looking at both these reed motors as piles of parts to start and learn with. I need to make various pullers and adapters for my case assembly tools. Plugs for pressure testing. A 10mm thread to spin a head up on my lathe. A bicycle to put it on .....



And Thanx to everyone for your responses. I got a lotta 2 stroke dirt bike experience but these tool motors are a whole new deal for me. I'm listening ....
I gotcha and pretty much figured so....I just wanna see you get to atleast get the feeling for the stuff and be completely satisfied with its performance basically in a 1 shot deal...

Like I said if you leave the dividers youll have basically the same flow as the stock 49cc cylinder without a divider and even without a 3rd port but if you modify them right you can gain some of the robbage back plus also gain more torque.....

One of my piston ported scooter engines had a cylinder with split ports...This poc below shows how I modded it so the velocity will be enhanced aswell as flow more fuel...



Purpose of adding a 3rd port is definately to add more atomized fuel mix into the cylinder before ignition.......

Im not trying to build you a landspeed record holder...Like I said before I just want you to do it right the first time built with about 4-4.25hp versing the stock 1.9hp also with mondo torque so you can get to cruising that thing youre building [pretty nicely I might add] without even thinking about ways to improve the power...Just improving the tune and if needed improving the gearing to better match the power being made...

If you want torque aswell as reliability reeded engines are hardly that kind of engine even though they were designed as tool engines the piston ported engines out-torque the reeded engine by 2.5:1,,outrev's the reed ported engine when modded right also will outlast the reeded engines by about 4-1....I have a scooter that was modified in 2012 and still running pretty strong 7 years later also to mention has atleast 500 miles on it...Its gone on atleast 35-40 15 mile round trip runs since being built….

If youre gonna try the reedported on the bike build first I think it would be better to grind-in the 3rd port on the 1pc cylinder and getting a piston ported 44mm piston if you have the 10mm crank and putting that piston in the reedported 1pc cylinder without a basegasket will get you a really nice squish closer to .050"....

As you can see in the picture the difference in height between the two... both pistons are mounted on a single wristpin in the picture....



You would have a way more reliable motor that starts easily and will be pretty easy to keep in tune...especially if you go with a 15mm WYK192 pumper carb........

Those 2 and 3pc headkits are mostly anodized aluminum,,,,anodize holds the part back from properly expanding so the rates between the anodize and the aluminum cylinder will differ greatly also to re-mention the copper ring is like beryllium instead of being softerso it wont compress and seal like true copper sealing rings do on Japanese motorcycles......

I started buying soft aircraft aluminum.and copper in 8" x 8" squares and getting as many 44mm,40mm and 36mm rings cut on a 3000 watt laser..

But yeah...That slot is a decompression notch...some are short and some are way too long...........The ones that are too long are the worst.......

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De-compression notch? That's what that little slot above the exhaust port is for! lol. I'm learnin'.


And Thank You for the pic of the 5 port CAM. I understand now. Would it be a good idea to remove the divider between the split ports? I'm not looking to start with an all out assault weapon. I got a feelin' that'll come later tho... lol. But it's best to walk before you run and they're so easy to work on I can see the need for a few.



Really, right now I'm looking at both these reed motors as piles of parts to start and learn with. I need to make various pullers and adapters for my case assembly tools. Plugs for pressure testing. A 10mm thread to spin a head up on my lathe. A bicycle to put it on .....



And Thanx to everyone for your responses. I got a lotta 2 stroke dirt bike experience but these tool motors are a whole new deal for me. I'm listening ....
Theres ways of making 3-9 completely diferent power attitudes from that same 3 port cylinder you have by just the piston choice plus all the different window shape , placement and size choices alone.....

You can put a regular piston in the cylinder with the 3rd port and youll get more extra revs than extra torque...In a bicycle build you want torque..

If you take that same piston remove it and window it at the 3rd port aswell as the split transfers you will have enhanced the torque alot more than the revs...Midrange will be pretty strong aswell compared to the basically straight up revver piston.....

If you just window it at the 3rd port and enlarged the transfer ports youll be gaining an extra balance of torque and revs but more torque than revs..Midrange will be pretty good too.....

If you window the split transfers and not the 3rd boost port channel youll see a very minimal gain in torque but will enhance the revs a couple thousand rpm's...Midrange will also slightly suffer with a weak boost-up......

Then if you throw the piston ported piston into the mix youre also bumping compression and changing port timing a lil too so theres those variables added too...….

In a bike build where you get elevation changes,,alot of starts n stops etc you want the torque to be enhanced therefore you will want a window in your piston in the corresponding spot where the 3rd port is grinded-in to accomodate the quest........

4-5 years back I sent the 44mm 1pc cylinder in the pic below that was mildly modified with a 3rd port along with a windowed piston ported piston to one of the bicycle guys that used to frequent here and contacted me mainly trough PM's..

He was unsure of what needed to be done to make an engine with a lot more torque but not too crazy on exhaust note plus not have revs above 8000rpm's as they weren't needed because he was just using it for cruising around his neighborhood which was pretty hilly as he called it....LOL.

When he received it and popped it on and broke it in according to directions he said that combo was the exact thing he wanted and also needed.....He was able to cruise around nicely on the lowend then when needed crack the throttle modestly but get a nice power thrust.....




He pmd me about the problem he was having with his clutch next as he was around 260-265lbs......He was smelling them biurning….I suggested swapping the lighter aluminum clutch for the heavier weighted steel clutch....



After that he said he was golden and thanked me a heap...:O

His squish calculated out at .052" without the basegasket,,compression was at around 135psi plus he took my advise and weighted his flywheel by an extra 2 ounces to give it some extra mass to keep it effortlessly rotating in which he also stated made a 1 pint gastank last longer than it actually should ...

He ran a normal old box muffler that was modified by drilling a few holes through the baffle plate inside and he also added a silencer end from an APC mini Harley and went 29mph revving out at 8000-8200 rpms geared at around 8.5:1 but also said it was like a mini stump puller from a dead stop and real easy to ride slow ....LOL

He also took the time to split the crankcase and blueprint the flow side to between the crankcase and cylinder to enhance velocity and reduce turbulence.....

When you smooth the sharp spots and ledges plus define the flowpath the fuel should be taking it builds consistent power...When its bouncing off, swirling round n round and being hindered by sharp areas that create turbulence it interrupts and slows the flow into the transferports and up into the cylinder which in-turn reduces power potential aswell as be hard to get tuned-in...

For his setup he followed a similar setup that I did on a homemade stand-up scooter...With this setup I got my homemade standup scooter to 33mph being mildly modded at around only 3hp too......It needed to be an over-all performer not just a blitz of light......LOL


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Back in the 70's when Honda produced their very first 2 stroke dirt bikes, aka "Elsinores", I bought a brand new CR125 for the princely sum of $830, but I'll tell you what, it coulda had a switch instead of a throttle! It was all out or nuthin'! But it had 6 speeds and I was a younger man. It was fun. And compared to anything else you could buy or modify at the time it was lightning fast. No comparison.

So I hear you on the powerband. My original intent on this bike was to build something with some bling to it for once in my life, and then use it for general around town transportation. A user friendly powerband instead of some screamin' meemie is where I need to go. Even 1.9 hp is more than I got in my legs!

Here's what I welded up to get the CAG's.



Here's the bike,



Being a form follows function guy that's not my kinda bike. Ape hangers? Being "caught dead" might be a distinct possibility! But he's happy and I quadrupled my CAG inventory.

It's a start.
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Back in the 70's when Honda produced their very first 2 stroke dirt bikes, aka "Elsinores", I bought a brand new CR125 for the princely sum of $830, but I'll tell you what, it coulda had a switch instead of a throttle! It was all out or nuthin'! But it had 6 speeds and I was a younger man. It was fun. And compared to anything else you could buy or modify at the time it was lightning fast. No comparison.

So I hear you on the powerband. My original intent on this bike was to build something with some bling to it for once in my life, and then use it for general around town transportation. A user friendly powerband instead of some screamin' meemie is where I need to go. Even 1.9 hp is more than I got in my legs!

Here's what I welded up to get the CAG's.



Here's the bike,



Being a form follows function guy that's not my kinda bike. Ape hangers? Being "caught dead" might be a distinct possibility! But he's happy and I quadrupled my CAG inventory.

It's a start.
Yery nice and ditto on the bars for that bike.....Theyre kinda the oddman out.I myself would of went with some dragbars....The shape kinda reminds me of my 83 Yammie Bobber..Id callit a barhopper model except I don't drink alcohol but some of my engines do.…LOL



Im more of a function over form type of guy....I get a lot more fun out of what I build that way besides I get more projects done and don't spend a lot of money either...I kinda learned the lesson from early on that they can always be busted down and beautified later when theres no good weather to ride...…

In cali where you live theres always weather to ride so none of my projects would ever get pulled apart and beautified...…LOL.

I spent mad hours in my younger years perfecting minibikes and gocarts and they got wrecked fast......The ones I didn't care for as much and left looking ratty seemed to last the longest and gave me the most enjoyment....

Same deal with my racecars...I leave them primered they stay around forever....I paint them and they get smashed into....LOL

I built and modified this one for my uncle years back....Wasnt my cup of tea either so when he died and it became mine I quickly sold it......




This one I got for free also...It shows 33,000 miles on the clock..One day Ill pull it apart and do something with it....Its got a blown head gasket and needs a carb to get running again but needs a total engine teardown and rebuild...This one ill save for a project for when Im a lil older....LOL




I hear ya about the older MX bikes.....Some of my oldest and craziest big CC racing bikes were a 1977 RM 465 racing bike from the guy in my neighborhood who raced it and also a 1979 YZ400......Both bikes were pretty insane for a 14 year old to ride......LOL

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i like the color of the bike but I'm with everybody else I don't like the bars I feel that their way outdated and out of style I like nice low bars makes it easy to ride one handed
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Yery nice and ditto on the bars for that bike.....Theyre kinda the oddman out.I myself would of went with some dragbars....The shape kinda reminds me of my 83 Yammie Bobber..Id callit a barhopper model except I don't drink alcohol but some of my engines do.…LOL



Im more of a function over form type of guy....I get a lot more fun out of what I build that way besides I get more projects done and don't spend a lot of money either...I kinda learned the lesson from early on that they can always be busted down and beautified later when theres no good weather to ride...…

In cali where you live theres always weather to ride so none of my projects would ever get pulled apart and beautified...…LOL.

I spent mad hours in my younger years perfecting minibikes and gocarts and they got wrecked fast......The ones I didn't care for as much and left looking ratty seemed to last the longest and gave me the most enjoyment....

Same deal with my racecars...I leave them primered they stay around forever....I paint them and they get smashed into....LOL

I built and modified this one for my uncle years back....Wasnt my cup of tea either so when he died and it became mine I quickly sold it......




This one I got for free also...It shows 33,000 miles on the clock..One day Ill pull it apart and do something with it....Its got a blown head gasket and needs a carb to get running again but needs a total engine teardown and rebuild...This one ill save for a project for when Im a lil older....LOL




I hear ya about the older MX bikes.....Some of my oldest and craziest big CC racing bikes were a 1977 RM 465 racing bike from the guy in my neighborhood who raced it and also a 1979 YZ400......Both bikes were pretty insane for a 14 year old to ride......LOL
I got my very first motorcycle at 14 from a garage sale for $20.00..It was a 1962 yamaha 250cc 2 cylinder 2 stroke model with chrome toaster style gastank..

Second and 3rd pic os what the 83 Yammie looked like also my 81 1100 V twin Virago dropped n lowered motorcycle build......Its gonna be a literal ground scraper......LOL
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