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Won’t start after carb clean?

My mate bought this kxd 50 second hand but barely ran in, just been in storage. Seemed to work fine at first then after adjusting the idle screw all of a sudden started bogging when asking for power and eventually cutting out. Couldn’t get it back right so we stripped and cleaned the carb and reed. Re assembled, started no problem but soon cut out, then would run for a minute but would die after a few revs before not starting at all.
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My mate bought this kxd 50 second hand but barely ran in, just been in storage. Seemed to work fine at first then after adjusting the idle screw all of a sudden started bogging when asking for power and eventually cutting out. Couldn’t get it back right so we stripped and cleaned the carb and reed. Re assembled, started no problem but soon cut out, then would run for a minute but would die after a few revs before not starting at all.
Anybody have any thing to check for? Pic of bike attached
That looks exactly like a MT-A1 cag...Id disassemble the petcock and look for sheared-off rubber to be clogging the ultra narrow passageway...

I'd also pull the plug to see if its wet or dry..

Another thing that comes to mind is you bent the float forks and now the float balance is off...…..

Can you post pics of the left hand side of the bike and Ill give you actual engine size identification too...

Best thing to do is get rid of that crappy floater cab and put a pumper carb setup.

Your friend will be glad he changed-up as those floater carbs are very problematic....

https://www.amazon.com/QAZAKY-Carbur...945190&sr=8-37

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My mate bought this kxd 50 second hand but barely ran in, just been in storage. Seemed to work fine at first then after adjusting the idle screw all of a sudden started bogging when asking for power and eventually cutting out. Couldn’t get it back right so we stripped and cleaned the carb and reed. Re assembled, started no problem but soon cut out, then would run for a minute but would die after a few revs before not starting at all.
Anybody have any thing to check for? Pic of bike attached
That looks exactly like a MT-A1 cag...Id disassemble the petcock and look for sheared-off rubber to be clogging the ultra narrow passageway...

I'd also pull the plug to see if its wet or dry..

Another thing that comes to mind is you bent the float forks and now the float balance is off...…..

Can you post pics of the left hand side of the bike and Ill give you actual engine size identification too...

Best thing to do is get rid of that crappy floater cab and put a pumper carb setup.

Your friend will be glad he changed-up as those floater carbs are very problematic....

https://www.amazon.com/QAZAKY-Carbur...945190&sr=8-37

https://www.amazon.com/Zooma-G-Scoot...YVT736KMS55WSA

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Thanks mate, will get a pic of the other side tmra evening. I have order another fuel tap aswell because he was playing with that before hand and it’s a nightmare to put back together. I’ve ordered an NGK BM6A for it? Didn’t have the time to pull the plug for an inspection. Don’t think I bent the float forks but you never know. Will post a pic tmra anyway, thanks for your help 👍🏻
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It's a CAG! You can do a carb swap if you want or depending on the budget and time you might give it a fresh clean out try and free High fuel flow mod

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Did you remove the main jet and atomizer and clean them with a small wire or welding tip files. Carb cleaner is not enough, you can file out the main jet bigger too. I bought a small gauge drill set, that came with holder for $8. You can also buy a 5 main jet set for around $10. In my 47cc Cag and 49cc Cags in the stock 13mm piston I run ,70mm main jet. They come w/a ,64 stock the kit has ,66mm, .68mm, .70mm & ,72mm, ,75mm. I have modified some carbs bore to 14mm, and 2 Booste306 14mm Swirl Bored carbs that work very good. The white turn off knob you remove fill the hole w/ JB weld, then drill a bigger hole all the way down and out the bottom. Then put a fuel shut off valve just above it. A V-stack and hp filter will help too.

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Yes defentley check the jet with a flash light it's just a pin hole you can use a bristle off a brush or a strand out of a piece of copper wire to clean the jet after letting it soak overnight in a glass jar of carburetor cleaner

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When ever you have a piston carb and float bowl and its been sitting, you remove it or the bowl and clean it and remove the jet and holder. Most people don't drain the carb when storing, a year later there is all kinds of crap dried in the bottom and white powered alum too, When you fill the bowl it starts and runs till the stuff mixes with gas and clogs your jet.
My X18 came with a 19mm carb, I put a 25mm dirt bike carb, it sat a year, I ran it, till it clogged and then clean everything, I had to remove the bowl a second time and redo the jets again. Now it runs right.

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Thanks mate, will get a pic of the other side tmra evening. I have order another fuel tap aswell because he was playing with that before hand and it’s a nightmare to put back together. I’ve ordered an NGK BM6A for it? Didn’t have the time to pull the plug for an inspection. Don’t think I bent the float forks but you never know. Will post a pic tmra anyway, thanks for your help 👍🏻

You don't have to buy another fuel tap for the carb itself...

Just do the petcock mod...

You gut the petcock,fill the void with JBWeld then after the JB cures you drill the petcock straight through using a 3/16" or 5/32" drillbit then you get an in-line fuel petcock from the local mower shop and put it between the tank and the carb...





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Theres also ways to modify the rest of the carb....

Seeings the carb bowl is so thick I Dremel it out with my carbide barrelcutter to increase fuel volume..

I sand down the float to lighten it up

I also ovalize and taperport the stock carb....

I also enlarge the mainjet to like a 72..

The differences are like night and day but when you replace it with a pumper carb its like 19th and 20th century...LOL





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Thats the coolest thing about that engine every part can be modified with a Dremel and some basic hand tools

It's low part count makes it easy to learn and all the parts are very inexpensive and as of right now still very abundant
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Thanks for all of the reply’s. I do indeed have a carb wire brush cleaning set and ran the through the main jet as well as spraying carb cleaner through. Will probably just have to dismantle and try again.
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Thanks for all of the reply’s. I do indeed have a carb wire brush cleaning set and ran the through the main jet as well as spraying carb cleaner through. Will probably just have to dismantle and try again.
Did you pull the sparkplug again to see if its wet or dry?

That will be the indication of which problem to face and tackle..

I use a mig welding tip cleaning tool to clean also modify my jets.....$6 bux Home Depot

I would look into the float forks as like I stated are the easiest things to bend..

You could've installed the float upside down too.....

The rounded part with the extra bump goes towards the bottom of the floatbowl...



I also sand the casting slag off the float with 2000 grit sandpaper then I polish it on my polishing wheel..



Another thing to check is the fuel inlet area aswell as the brass seat as it could be clogged with sheared petcock rubber too

I enlarge the carb inlet area to the new size of the petcock up to the brass seat and I open up the brass seat a tiny bit more than what it is to strengthen fuel flow so the bowl doesn't run dry at WOT....



I also polish the mainjet tube too so the float glides up n down without experiencing stiction...



I tried finding clear pics of the floatbowl I grinded out over 3 grams of metarial from but believe me when I say the extra fuel capacity makes a huge difference even at idle...

All these lil things add up to make a huge difference for the better.....


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Don't forget about those SkullCam videos he shows everything all laid out with mass good tips and tricks...

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Don't forget about those SkullCam videos he shows everything all laid out with mass good tips and tricks...
Forget about who?....Who's skullcam????How long has he been modifying pocketbikes??

I can 100% guarantee that guy most likely got all his tips n tricks from gleaning this site....

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Skullcam (he is a member here) he is legit he's a real pocket biker that has a passion for pocket bikes I do know some of his mods came from this site either directly or indirectly I don't have that information and some of the mods are his own or probably mods that he's heard from around town they are mostly mods you can do for free or very little money.

He has a series where he takes all of the good parts off all of his CAGs and makes one good one then takes it to track and videoed himself riding it with other pocket bikers.

I like his videos he goes through a lot of stuff for people that may not know a lot about pocket bikes in kind of a fun artistic way. None of his videos are monetized...

He's definitely not like that other Joker that welded a concrete saw to the side of a pocket bike then called it the world's fastest pocket bike then he painted it Pokemon theme.

Or that circus act where that guy says he's going to build the world's most powerful pocket bike engine then proceeds to buy a bunch of junk parts off of eBay and slaps it together after me repeatedly messaging him telling him that it's not going to work he then proceeded to bolt his sloper to a milk crate to break it in and you can hear the Piston slapping the top of the cylinder and then he disappeared from YouTube ...

Hummm guess that guy forgot to read the threads that you wrote about how to do a proper squish test LOL.

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Yeah I swapped the float round last night, I had it in the right way in the first place. Will swap it back tonight. Seems to run okay now anyway. Also seen some of skullcam a vids. They are good!
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Skullcam (he is a member here) he is legit he's a real pocket biker that has a passion for pocket bikes I do know some of his mods came from this site either directly or indirectly I don't have that information and some of the mods are his own or probably mods that he's heard from around town they are mostly mods you can do for free or very little money.

He has a series where he takes all of the good parts off all of his CAGs and makes one good one then takes it to track and videoed himself riding it with other pocket bikers.

I like his videos he goes through a lot of stuff for people that may not know a lot about pocket bikes in kind of a fun artistic way. None of his videos are monetized...

He's definitely not like that other Joker that welded a concrete saw to the side of a pocket bike then called it the world's fastest pocket bike then he painted it Pokemon theme.

Or that circus act where that guy says he's going to build the world's most powerful pocket bike engine then proceeds to buy a bunch of junk parts off of eBay and slaps it together after me repeatedly messaging him telling him that it's not going to work he then proceeded to bolt his sloper to a milk crate to break it in and you can hear the Piston slapping the top of the cylinder and then he disappeared from YouTube ...

Hummm guess that guy forgot to read the threads that you wrote about how to do a proper squish test LOL.





Gee whiz go back about 10-20,000 posts..His oldest vids date back to only 2016....Had they dated back to say 2006 Id give the guy madd props..

Whats funny is this site gives the pertinent info away FREE without making people join so they can lurk practically forever in the background soaking in all the free info they want..

I came here with the answers I didn't join to get schooled like you and skullcam who has exactly ONE post here .Its obvious he lurks the forum because he ONLY joined to thank you for recommending his vids.....lol.

How come he doesn't come here and try and school the forum and salt n pepper the forum with his vids??..Because he knows....LOL

I was telling members about saving $$ modifying stock components way before you and that guy ever could afford a pocketbike let alone a pedal bike ..

Heres what I had when I joined..Its got the stock 110cc engine and hits 88.7mph flat out.....!!

Its got a STOCK 49mm cylinder overbored to 56mm's , reground stock camshaft,26mm carb and a 14/22 gearing...The stock brake calipers are even modified aswell as a ton of other parts too.Even the rear swingarm was converted to roller bearing instead of just rubber isolator bushings and also 4" of ride height was added..Ive even rewired all my super pocketbikes just like the real deal and gotten them made street legal.....…..

I'm even the first to successfully mod the stock hydraulic springer forks into Nitrogen pressurized forks too...……see pic 3..This was all almost 12 years ago!!





Oh and heres my old dragbike too with KX125 swingarm mod done to it..Do you know how many PM's I got over doing just that one mod...? Over 20,000 pm's...LOL...…

I didn't come here with a lil kids toy like you looking for answers..I bought the Blata 2.5 kids toy for a grand all the way back in 1999..9 years before I ever joined this site.........lol..

What were you doing in 1999?Oh wait let me guess...Living in your moms basement before her bankruptcy....LOL



I was also giving some of those modified parts away FREE aswell as making and selling things like windshield supports ,modified brake pedals and license plate holders too!!!!!!!!!Members were sending me boxes of stock parts and paying me to modify them too!!!

I've even traveled to queens and upstate ny to go help fellow members out for "FREE" and have even gotten paid for modifying super pocketbikes at my house for a lil bit..Theres a thread on the X19 I did for a NYC police officer...LOL..

You try to help one member out [seattleseahawk56]and you were here about the problem picking the forums brain but yet you act like such an electronics expert in the e-bike section........You couldn't even get it done by yourself...Where was skullcam to help?

Do you know how many times my PM box has overflowed from requests for help....??Ive received over 200,000 of them over the years and theres threads asking me to purge my inbox so whoopty doo...…!!

Try going back to 2008 when I joined but you wont ...Its easy click my name click posts and start with page #1..EPR knows and remembers....lol

How long ago was that????Oops longer than you can count obviously...lol

Ill do the math for you...Feb.2020 negative March 2008 is roughly 12 years...2020-2016 = roughly 4 years......Quite a big difference wouldn't you say?????

Youll also get some juicy info to who I am too if you do.....I already know all about you and frankly its quite sad to wanna be you as it seems your net worth is less than zero...LOL.....

Go back n read Im the first member here to turn the port timing in degrees into laymans terms so even the novice like YOU can build an engine without a "DEGREE WHEEL" and yet you seem to have a lot of difficulty and don't even start the build steps correctly...Mayyybeee one day you'll get it right and you'll even learn how to set a degree wheel up on a small cc engine let alone learn how to use it...Does skullcam have anything you can learn from..Maybe he will make a special video just for you and you can take the credit!!.....LOL

Show me a member that broke down the port timing before me....You won't...LOL

Even a Member named Mexicano tried doing a super thorough race engine build...I've still yet to this day hear it run!!

Let me ask ya...That body builder chick Im looking at pics of who's in Ottowa..Is that your sister..?.If so pm me the digits...LOL

Then I find how you and him are buddies....dude if he liked that vid of you making that zipgun he's just as fried as you are...lol..I couldn't follow after laughing so hard of hearing the sweeeet sound of that Delta40 Flowmaster muffler you got on that "drift truck" of yours........LOL..

I couldn't hear the exhaust profile over the windstorm...Ya got a better vid?.LOL


Gee you have alot of views and followers too...I guess the Charles Manson look alike look mixed in with a lil rainman isn't quite doing it for the public and maybe time for a change ...lol

I also have one of the most successful thread on this site on the gas bikes with quite a bit of views and I did it without making aYouTube vid...lol

Combine all your views on all your vids...They wont equal to not even 1/4 of the posts the CAG,CAG,CAG thread made and its still climbing daily...….LOL.

When are you gonna become a real man and move out of your mom's trailer?

I live in a state that has almost the highest tax rate and yet I can afford more than 1 "HOUSE"...LOL

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I live in apartments in CDA if you must know with two kids my girlfriend and a cat.

The gun video was a joke video for a spectra 80 glock lower contest put on by The Unknown Cat himself everyone made a joke video (per his request) and turned them in everyone voted on them and unfortunately I got second place.

Just so you know this site normally has about 2 to 14 members online and about 400 to 500 lurkers with those numbers how whould this site pay for itself off add revenue with members onley I guess they can charge a fee or something.

I'm glad he got the bike going anyway sounds like the info he got from you (Cam2) and the Skullcam video helped him out.

Maybe you should make some vids the only vids I have seen of you working on stuff was the handle bar / brake switches vid.

I'm out I'm going to feed my cat then I have a few offices to go to then the bank then I'm going to stop by my mom's check on her maybe grab a pocket bike engine to work on then I'm going to my friends he got a part to lower his supper moto 1 inch where going to play with that then I'll be home
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I live in apartments in CDA if you must know with two kids my girlfriend and a cat.

The gun video was a joke video for a spectra 80 glock lower contest put on by The Unknown Cat himself everyone made a joke video (per his request) and turned them in everyone voted on them and unfortunately I got second place.

Just so you know this site normally has about 2 to 14 members online and about 400 to 500 lurkers with those numbers how whould this site pay for itself off add revenue with members onley I guess they can charge a fee or something.

I'm glad he got the bike going anyway sounds like the info he got from you (Cam2) and the Skullcam video helped him out.

Maybe you should make some vids the only vids I have seen of you working on stuff was the handle bar / brake switches vid.

I'm out I'm going to feed my cat then I have a few offices to go to then the bank then I'm going to stop by my mom's check on her maybe grab a pocket bike engine to work on then I'm going to my friends he got a part to lower his supper moto 1 inch where going to play with that then I'll be home
That gotta be your moms house as the motif befits a much older person.

Isnt that pic taken at 6402 S 10th St, Apt 302, ??She moved an aweful lot over the years ...Lots of apartments too many addresses to list..LOL...I think I even see a group home address..

Did you move in with your mom again or are you over there begging for $$.?.LOL..

Wait coer'd alene...Isnt that where that lawnmower racing chick Sheila Sprinkle who has a Mallory paint franchise branch lives?Its literally 15mins away from Post Falls....

Gee you have such an exciting life with your cat and those harsh words you try to splay are just like the insults of a schoolchild which gave me a huge chuckle because you have no clue how many people benefitted from those vids and the quick n easy way in which they were accomplished but you'd never realize that was the point which was to show simpletons like you a simple way to do things in literally under 5 minutes too.....Didn't it take you 3 weekends to fix seattle seahawks bike?...Its just like your illiteracy and spelling of words..It's simply 6th grade jibberish..

Besides I do my quick impromptu vids in 1 take on the spot and not a thousand wasting my day or time.You seem to be an uber envious type of person if you want to try to get that petty...

For such a joke video you made edited and posted an aweful lot of vids on the same subject and I believe the title said contest.

Whats the matter ...Were you hoping on a better viewing turnout?

Post up that nitrous cag vid or anything you built not sounding like crap with a stupid explaination behind it making excuses for it..LOL....OOPs you cant....

Maybe skullcam vids aren't really that helpful after all if you cant build a proper engine or ever realize that building an engine starts with the crank and that balance factor is only acheiveable after truing up the crank or youll never get it balanced right....LOL.....Take notes....LOL

Dude I know where you really live .I can buy a plane ticket or rent another McLaren 720 to cruise there and just come there with my video camera like I did to a few mouthflappers...LOL

Wanna try me out?..You won't know how serious I really am until things get awry and then youll wish it was a bad dream..Right now were just chatting via keyboard....LOL

I also know that Oldsmobile is your moms too....You should of covered the plate...Katherine Rose is her name and she was born in 1951...right?

1812 E Bark Loop is the spot .Same place a lot of your vids were taken..

I even know where you moved from when you lived in Washington in that lil sea green house on S.Tyler Street..Wanna elaborate why you had to make the move or should I?....LOL

I guess T's Pc's will have a new location but not a valid business license...LOL

How many of those $15 cleanings you do this week...You must like wallowing in other peoples filth to do it so cheap...…

Heres the front of my home and my Livingroom...LOL..You can see my lil barn in the background....LOL..I don't have no cat toys in my Livingroom as you can see.....











I think my property is almost bigger than the whole trailer park you live in..My pool is bigger than your whole trailer....LOL

Theres nothing about you I can actually take seriously and quite frankly you've become quite an inside joke...……..

Just like how you became mod here....From being a lil crybaby crying about the site....Not from having mega pocketbike experience like NaSa Straydawg or SpyGuy that's for sure.....

You're more like a talking Mynah bird but that isn't even accurate because even Mynah birds can accurately repeat things their taught;-unlike you ....Google it.......LOL

I still have the PM of you begging me to help you get rid of the hacker and your bullschitt promise......

I must've forwarded it to atleast a dozen members...…………..LOL

Youre a joke...And for my biggest laugh continue onto the next post....LOL
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Re: Won’t start after carb clean?

Aint this YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![Top Line just how you like to be MrKitty!!]

Maybe I should HiLite it for better viewing so we can better see how a SUPER MODERATOR who likes to live the laid-back simple lifestyle actually conducts himself...……..



How big of a man do you feel beating up your girlfriend and your mom in front of a child?..

Was it over meth? Did you know Manson liked to beat his women too?

Youre such a badazz plus kinda explains the Astrovan with purple engine for your g/f...LOL

She must be awefully stoopid [as you say] or maybe she's desperate to stay with a person like you from lack of options..?.

Tell her I got a room in the top of my barn for her...She can clean my house...LOL



According to psychologists on the subject ;-No matter how much you put them on a pedestal they always remember tha bad times more after you put your hands on them....Food 4 thought...LOL

PLZ..Don't tell us you beat them up because of the cat or even the darn chicken telling you too either...!!!..I wont stand for it..Oh wait that was DeFeo in the Amityville Horror....LOL


Didn't this imposed sentence happen August 27, 2018...………..?

Didn't you have to do 37 days in jail too? Who was taking care of business?

How long did it take for you to pay the $500.00 and arent you still on probation til August?

How many dirty computers did you have to clean out to pay it off?

You need a loan...?




Did you have to go see your PO today?

I can spew the court minutes too if you'd like so don't embellish....LOL

Have a crappy day tough guy...………..LOL
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