what to put in the Cat eye transmission

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beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · Aug 18, 2012

hey , im not sure if my tranny is low on the cat eye but im assuming it is and want to fill it when i check it so im wondering what to put in there. i bought some multi-purpose auto transmission fluid, for dexron mercon3 applications. will this be ok with it or does anybody know what the manufacture recommends ?

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CAM2

· #2 · Aug 18, 2012 (Edited)

All thats needed is 100cc's of light duty oil to lube the gear and the bearings.........Any more than 100ccs will create drag............

I use chain lube with white graphite and some 5w/20 amsoil.....

Lately Ive been using alot of #350wt silicone oil used for r/c shocks........It seems to be the slickest stuff Ive ever used and it resists some pretty high heat aswell......

beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 18, 2012

CAM2 said:
All thats needed is 100cc's of light duty oil to lube the gear and the bearings.........Any more than 100ccs will create drag............

I use chain lube with white graphite chain lube and some 5w/20 amsoil.....

Lately Ive been using alot of #350wt silicone oil used for r/c shocks........It seems to be the slickest stuff Ive ever used and it resists some pretty high heat aswell......

ok so im gonna need a syringe, or what else can i use to measure with, sorry ive never had to measure cc's before except back in 9th grade science but i dont remember much but the weight of gravity

CAM2

· #4 · Aug 18, 2012 (Edited)

beansdaddy78 said:
ok so im gonna need a syringe, or what else can i use to measure with, sorry ive never had to measure cc's before except back in 9th grade science but i dont remember much but the weight of gravity

100cc's is the equivelent to about four shampoo capfuls of lube........

beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #5 · Aug 18, 2012

CAM2 said:
100cc's is the equivelent to about four shampoo capfuls of lube........

now are you talking head and shoulders capfuls or about the size of lice shampoos cap fulls??

just kidding cam2, i think ill figure it out but thanks for making it easy as pie. only two kinds of pie i like, thats pecan and pant_!

oh, would you know any place that id be able to find 2 single co2 canisters for boost bottles? im hoping to snag some up in the morning and make me a couple for the cat eye and mini quad. thanks again for anymore help you can give, have a great night

CAM2

· #6 · Aug 18, 2012

beansdaddy78 said:
now are you talking head and shoulders capfuls or about the size of lice shampoos cap fulls??

just kidding cam2, i think ill figure it out but thanks for making it easy as pie. only two kinds of pie i like, thats pecan and pant_!

oh, would you know any place that id be able to find 2 single co2 canisters for boost bottles? im hoping to snag some up in the morning and make me a couple for the cat eye and mini quad. thanks again for anymore help you can give, have a great night

If ya got a Walgreens nearby they sell Co2 canisters for those self tanning systems...4 canisters nine bucks.........If not paintball gun Co2 will work aswell as the ones from BB guns...they have smaller ones too for those Co2 activated drain clearers/toilet plungers

beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #7 · Aug 18, 2012

hoping to get some tonight, hey cam2 i also picked up a new kart today for $200 in trade, ill post a pic here. im pretty sure i did ok for $200 let me know if you think otherwise please.

EPR

· #8 · Aug 19, 2012

On eBay I got 10 pellet gun ones for $10

beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #9 · Aug 19, 2012

beansdaddy78 said:
hoping to get some tonight, hey cam2 i also picked up a new kart today for $200 in trade, ill post a pic here. im pretty sure i did ok for $200 let me know if you think otherwise please.

here she is, i did have to drive 2 hours to get it at 6am but i thought it was a good deal and wanted to get it before he posted it on craigslist. it says margay on the front steering pieces and on the engine bolts has a M on the bolt so im guessing its a vintage margay , i put a motor i had ready to roll on it so i can work on the hard starting briggs 5 hp that came on it, lol now i got 3 of those brigs 5hp, need to tune 2 of them up and get them running

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CAM2

· #10 · Aug 19, 2012 (Edited)

beansdaddy78 said:
here she is, i did have to drive 2 hours to get it at 6am but i thought it was a good deal and wanted to get it before he posted it on craigslist. it says margay on the front steering pieces and on the engine bolts has a M on the bolt so im guessing its a vintage margay , i put a motor i had ready to roll on it so i can work on the hard starting briggs 5 hp that came on it, lol now i got 3 of those brigs 5hp, need to tune 2 of them up and get them running

Awesome pickup and nice price..It is a Margay..I had one of those back in the 80s.That engine should be a raptor or animal build-up....The reason why it probably starts up rough is because it needs racegas or a carb rebuild...does it have a pumper carb or a stock briggs carb?,,,,,,,,

Did the previous owner give ya the air dams too?Like on my CRG kart?

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beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #11 · Aug 19, 2012

CAM2 said:
Awesome pickup and nice price..It is a Margay..I had one of those back in the 80s.That engine should be a raptor or animal build-up....The reason why it probably starts up rough is because it needs racegas or a carb rebuild...does it have a pumper carb or a stock briggs carb?,,,,,,,,

Did the previous owner give ya the air dams too?Like on my CRG kart?

it has the original carb, i put the briggs that i took off of a rotortiller i bought for $40. i was hoping maybe you could tell me how to get rid of the governer on it

pretty please. I would love to find one of the original motors for it so i can have it back to the way it came off the line. i had no idea margay was built in stl. right on kingshighway, i must have drove past them and ate lunch down there a thousand times and never knew. i wonder if they sell parts out of the factory.

beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 19, 2012

no air dams, so i kinda want to find those also, im a bit weird about vintage things where i insist on them being original as possible and even though i dont plan to sell some of the things i own i still try to make them worth as much as possible, i guess to make myself feel like im cool or something i dont know i just know that i want to hunt down the original things im missing. someone switched the way the front steering is supposed to be hooked up. im thinking maybe if i bring the kart with me to my next dr. appt in downtown stl. i may try to swing it by the factory and see if maybe i know someone who works there (stl is a small city, everyone seems to know everyone or at least once a day i would see someone i knew in different parts of the city) so im hoping maybe one of them working there worked with me or for me at one point in time, cause i love getting the hook up. Cam2 mind if i ask what part of the country you live in, im not asking your address so please dont worry about me annoying you in person, just thinking about asking if you were within a hundred miles or so maybe i could pay or barter with you for some motor mods ? just a thought, dont worry i wont be butt hurt if you would rather not say, i completely understand. i do want to thank you for taking the place of my father on here lol, now you see what that poor bastard had to put up with for 23 years before i finally left the nest.

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beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #13 · Aug 19, 2012

its a briggs 130202 old style horizontal 5 hp, i also was wondering if that other motor that i got yesterday for $5 if that would be worth working on and modding or should i just get a clone. they have races an hour south of here, gonna google those to see what id have to do to try to race, im sure they probably want those ****s on there for protection, just a guess.

CAM2

· #14 · Aug 19, 2012 (Edited)

beansdaddy78 said:
no air dams, so i kinda want to find those also, im a bit weird about vintage things where i insist on them being original as possible and even though i dont plan to sell some of the things i own i still try to make them worth as much as possible, i guess to make myself feel like im cool or something i dont know i just know that i want to hunt down the original things im missing. someone switched the way the front steering is supposed to be hooked up. im thinking maybe if i bring the kart with me to my next dr. appt in downtown stl. i may try to swing it by the factory and see if maybe i know someone who works there (stl is a small city, everyone seems to know everyone or at least once a day i would see someone i knew in different parts of the city) so im hoping maybe one of them working there worked with me or for me at one point in time, cause i love getting the hook up. Cam2 mind if i ask what part of the country you live in, im not asking your address so please dont worry about me annoying you in person, just thinking about asking if you were within a hundred miles or so maybe i could pay or barter with you for some motor mods ? just a thought, dont worry i wont be butt hurt if you would rather not say, i completely understand. i do want to thank you for taking the place of my father on here lol, now you see what that poor bastard had to put up with for 23 years before i finally left the nest.

Its all good Beansie..I dont mind helping others out and I try not to judge anyone and if I do its not too harshly unless Ive been judged harshly first..I live in Eastern Long Island NY near the Hamptons and dont mind saying where I live or even meeting members of this site which ive already met a few from the bikes Ive purchased from them..........

I like how you want things you have to be as original as possible...Im like that with some of my relics too..............LOL

CAM2

· #15 · Aug 19, 2012 (Edited)

beansdaddy78 said:
its a briggs 130202 old style horizontal 5 hp, i also was wondering if that other motor that i got yesterday for $5 if that would be worth working on and modding or should i just get a clone. they have races an hour south of here, gonna google those to see what id have to do to try to race, im sure they probably want those ****s on there for protection, just a guess.

Id contact the techs at the racetrack and have them fax you over a spec sheet on whats required to race..............You definately need to have most of the hardware safety wired i do know for a fact but as far as the powerplant the rules vary by class......The air dams are for protection aswell as highspeed handling..My CRG kart goes a topspeed of 133mph and I can practically make wicked turns at that speed with the airdams on and handle it like the karts built on rails...........

beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #16 · Aug 19, 2012

cool, im trying to find them now, maybe ill get lucky and they are racing, im about an hour away and my and my daughter are bored so if someone answers the phone there and says its on, were getting in the jeep and cruising down there to check it out. dang ny is a haul, i think thats even 8-10 hours from my gma's house in warren pa.

CAM2

· #17 · Aug 19, 2012

beansdaddy78 said:
cool, im trying to find them now, maybe ill get lucky and they are racing, im about an hour away and my and my daughter are bored so if someone answers the phone there and says its on, were getting in the jeep and cruising down there to check it out. dang ny is a haul, i think thats even 8-10 hours from my gma's house in warren pa.

I can get to the pa border from my house in an hour and fifteen mins and to North Carolina to ride dirtbikes or cruise the Dragon in 8-10 hours...............

beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #18 · Aug 19, 2012

i just found out there is kart racing about 30 miles from my back door, im gonna go to the next race on saturday and see what they are all about and what i gotta do to get in, gonna have to check out their website and see what i gotta do to be legal to race, i used to race RC cars in california and did well, had first place in the class even 3 months after i moved away and i never once won first place in a race, always 2 or 3 religiously so i stomped everyone in points.

thats weird how the guy who never won a first is first in the class. so im hoping i can win some loot and mainly for me it would be an awesome way to get away from this house. hey CAM2, is that motor i showed you decent enough to race with, in your opinion would it be worth trying to get ready to race in two weeks in the clone division? my old lady is gonna flip when she gets news im gonna pay money to enter this " another one of your junk yard hunks of sh#*'s " into a race that cost about $25 to enter

do you have any suggestions i can do to this briggs to race with it or should i try to get a 5.5 or 6.5 clone? i have 3 of these briggs so naturally if it would compete with the clones id like to use these but need to know the best bang for my buck in mods to get it done quick as possible on a very limited budget. if able to help id appreciate it

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beansdaddy78

Discussion Starter · #19 · Aug 19, 2012

back to the cat eye, dont wanna get in trouble for talking about karts in here. i got the global a day or two ago about the rules and im guessing its about me

thanks for your help CAM2 your a good dude

CAM2

· #20 · Aug 19, 2012 (Edited)

beansdaddy78 said:
i just found out there is kart racing about 30 miles from my back door, im gonna go to the next race on saturday and see what they are all about and what i gotta do to get in, gonna have to check out their website and see what i gotta do to be legal to race, i used to race RC cars in california and did well, had first place in the class even 3 months after i moved away and i never once won first place in a race, always 2 or 3 religiously so i stomped everyone in points. thats weird how the guy who never won a first is first in the class. so im hoping i can win some loot and mainly for me it would be an awesome way to get away from this house. hey CAM2, is that motor i showed you decent enough to race with, in your opinion would it be worth trying to get ready to race in two weeks in the clone division? my old lady is gonna flip when she gets news im gonna pay money to enter this " another one of your junk yard hunks of sh#*'s " into a race that cost about $25 to enter do you have any suggestions i can do to this briggs to race with it or should i try to get a 5.5 or 6.5 clone? i have 3 of these briggs so naturally if it would compete with the clones id like to use these but need to know the best bang for my buck in mods to get it done quick as possible on a very limited budget. if able to help id appreciate it

With the right mods and carb that engine can be a good contender,,,,on my old runners I used to drill and tap the cases to act as a power breather to get max revs sort of like my homemade headbreather kit for 110cc/125cc superbikes........I used to elongate the intake 3-4" with a PVC tubing to make a place for the barbed ends sort of like my X15

Heres what most people running that class will have done to their engines or part of atleast..If theres a choice between engines and classes id start out in the lower class and build-up a sweet powerplant for the bigger class for the next season

Dual Ball-Bearing, RACING Reinforced Cylinder............
Billet Rod.......
Slotted, Stelite-Faced, Ground Cam w/ Compression Release...........
Dual, High-Silicon Valve Springs........
PVL Digital Ignition System w/7,100 RPM Limiter.........
CNC D-Shape Intake Port,,,,,,,,
Walbro Round - Slide Carburetor,,,,,,,
Dana Fire-Ring Head Gasket......
Racing Crankshaft w/ Induction-Hardened Crankpin...........
Green high flow Air Filter...........
Federal Mogul Moly-Coated Cam Ground, Barrel-Faced Piston,,,,,
Chrome-Faced, Racing Only Ring Package.....
Port-Liner, Exhaust System,,
Mikuni Fuel Pump..
Nora Clutch w/ Quick Change Sprocket Set..
Automotive 3-Piece Valve Retainer System..
Beefy Rocker Arm Stud Nuts..

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