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Moto Tec 36v electric pocket bike

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#1 ·
Does anyone here have any experience with this bike?
I found a couple of reviews posted on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/MotoTec-36v-Electric-Pocket-Bike/dp/B007CIVFPM

I believe there is also gas version of it:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/278437225/49cc_gas_pocket_bike_for_kids.html

As far as I know there is only one place that carries some spare parts for it: http://www.bigtoysusa.com/mototec36vpocketbikeparts.aspx

It looks like a decent bike but I'm not certain how well it's made. Any thoughts?
 
#2 ·
Dosent seem like a good buy, both reviews were negative. Maybe you will get lucky with it, but most china bikes like that one arent built to last. even razor has a better guarantee. Look at the xp 700 for 290 bucks or the xp 707 for 400. They are much better.
 
#4 ·
The Moto Tec is a fairly new import by Big Toys. Specs are fine, its a proven frame and uses proven electronics. Plastics are a rarer version of an MTA-2 gas pocket bike. Bigtoys does not always do a good job with packaging so expect ship issues. They do not cover this type of damage so you will need to file a shipping claim with fedex if it arrives damaged. If your close to Wisconsin you should be ok.
X-treme no longer offers the XP pocket bikes.

Converting a used gas pocket bike would be a better option unless you want something new. Used bikes are $50-$100 on craigslist, cheaper if the engine is blown. Doing an electric conversion is fairly easy with these bikes, they are already set up with a flat plate where the engine was. The three batteries fit nicely in the front and a motor can be strapped to the plate with large hose clamps. All the necessary conversion parts will run under $200. Its easy to join the 30mph club with this type of conversion.


Hugh
SDscooters
 
#5 · (Edited)
Since the XP-707 doesn't seem to be around anymore, I decided to get this bike (both of them actually look very similar). It arrived in a cardboard box. The box contains four foam blocks to support and protect the bike. Mine came out without any damage.

I did notice that one of the four screws that hold the front forks to the triple tree was missing. The little round nut was also missing. Does anyone know where to get these two items? The screw uses 4mm hex, has a diameter of 4.75mm and is 30mm long. (probably an M5 screw?)
I looked around it looks like the ones in this picture: http://www.pocketbikeparts.com/Forks_w_Triple_Tree_New_Style_Cag_p/cgfk303163.htm

The bike's top speed is 17 mph for a light rider. It's powered by three 12v, 14AH lead-acid batteries that should allow for ~ 40 minutes run time.
 

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#6 ·
In general:
Yes you get missing parts from the place that sold you the bike. Missing parts are/should be free. If you are in a rush your local ace/homedepot should have the basics like the parts pictured.

For normal easy to find parts:
Let your vendor know. They will hopefully send you the parts or offer to reimburse you for your purchase. This is usually at their choice so don't expect to be reimbursed if you do not contact them first.

For model specific hard to find parts:
Call the vendor. If you bought from someplace without phone support then fill out their warranty claim. Wait a reasonable amount of time for a reply (maximum of 48hrs during business week; longer if you do this on the weekend).

If no reply then send an email informing them you will be contacting your credit card company, most will reply within hours if not minutes.

Still no reply? call your credit card company.

Hugh
SDscooters
 
#7 ·
Thanks SDscooters. I went to Home Depot and got some M5 nuts and screws and they fit right in.

During a run about a couple weeks ago, my chain fell off and got jammed between the sprocket and the swingarm. It ended up bending both the chain and the sprocket and took me a long time to get them both back to shape.

After this I noticed that the rear sprocket was not aligned with the front one. There was about a 3/8" offset between the two gears and is probably the main reason that the chain fell off at speed. I fixed this by adding washers to move the rear sprocket a little further out (stock screws were replaced with longer M5 screws for the extra length). The rear sprocket will wobble slightly due to the variation in thickness of the washers but you can bend the sprocket a little to compensate this. In addition, I added a piece of aluminum to prevent the chain from moving too much side to side. I also adjusted the chain tension to remove any unnecessary slack. The bike is now running a lot more reliably and the chain has not come off since.

Another thing I've noticed is that the rear brake's mounting bracket was not mounted straight. It got wedged in between the protruding edges of the swingarm. So I added a 10mm nut and couple washers between the brake's mounting bracket and the swingarm for proper clearance. The rear brake assembly is now aligned with the brake disc and the brake pads can engage properly. The end.
 

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#8 ·
Wow something looks funky. Having to put all those washers in to realign the sprocket shouldnt be right. If its working well, then great, otherwise your going to want to reexamine the assembly.

There should be one spacer on each side of the axle, looks like you have two on the brake side. This can cause major alignment issues. Also looks like the swing arm is overly wide causing the brake caliper mount to be at an angle (most likely a spacer issue). Once its pulled in the brake should align correctly.

Interested in seeing more pictures and hearing if its still working well. Thanks for the unboxing images, packaging looks better than most we see from china.

Hugh
SDscooters
 
#9 · (Edited)
Last week the bike had a minor crash going over a speed bump but is still working well. The only real damage was the foot peg which broke off.

I can't foresee any major problems with this bike in the long run. All the parts on this bike look compatible with the MTA2 bike's, but I have not had to replace anything so I'm not 100% sure. Below is a link for the MTA2 bike's parts:
http://www.pocketbikeparts.com/Stock_Parts_s/175.htm

Attached are a couple of pictures of what the bike currently looks like.
 

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#10 · (Edited)
I Bought the Moto tec 24v mini dirt quad for my 3 year old son.
I went with the Mototec because comparing it to the razor it seemed to have more features (Front brakes, Headlight and Front suspension), Looks cooler and they were about the same price.
Since then I bought myself a Razor MX650 dirt bike off craigslist and the quality is noticable.
I'm not saying the Moto tec is bad in any way but it did have multiple quirks right out of the box. Brake alignment being one of them.
The front suspension is cosmetic only, I tried adjusting it but even with the springs disengaged I can put quite a load on it with little to no movement from either side.
There is also alot of play in the front steering. The linkage is a poor design, 4 ball joints that each have 1/4 play each adds up quick.
I have not had the chance to see the Razor quad in person but I think I would have went that route knowing what I know now.
Ride times are amazing though. He is less then 40 lbs and that helps a ton I'm sure.
It was all Blue/Black but he wanted a Red one.
 

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#11 ·
One thing I want to mention is that the batteries can jump around when you hit small bumps. Some of the wires don't have much slack and they can break off because of this. I use some zip ties to hold them down securely.
 
#13 ·
Sounds like weak or bad batteries. Have them load tested. The China batteries don't last long, have to keep them charged all the time and when you ride if you run the batteries down to far before charging that will kill them also. Worst is to let them sit for months without a charge, most people keep there bikes on the charger 24/7 when there not riding.